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Knockout and Third Seal exists to grief Solos
I have my fair share of hours being Devotion 9 (2/3 Survivor, 1/3 Killer). I can count on two hands how many times I've gone against this build. I just did against a Wraith, though, and I know that I've now gone against it enough. This is worthy of a Ban. It's enough. This is why DBD has a player base and not a community. It's make things unfun for the other side. I have only so much time to play this game. Quit being an ass, for those who are.
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Well... take it for what it is
BTW... So Eruption, Overcharge and Call Of Brine is bad for solo
And now Knockout and TTS...
It seems that Killers are not supposed to even try (wait.... can't even do that)
So what are Killers supposed to do???
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I'm not dumb. He was playing Wraith to get an easy first hit. He also had Deerstalker and Sloppy (everything for me, nothing for you). It's not hard to play Killer like this, especially against Solos.
To add, he was anonymous (no characters in his name). There's a reason for it.
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So how many Gens were done... no slowdown so I think it's fair
Did he Camp/Tunnel?
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You think using perks you don't like is 'worthy of a ban'?
Have fun with that.
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He was anonymous mode because probably was a streamer and didn't want to get stream bombed by sore losers. BHVR did that mode for a reason.
Really Sloppy isn't that bad of a perk...and Deer Stalker....really your complaining about that perk?
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Playing the game as if the other side is your mule is worthy of a ban. It's not about perks, it's about intention.
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lol
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So now you're assuming the Killer's intention, and claiming they should be banned if whatever you assume about them is bad? 😂
All your OP said was that he used [x] perks, and that that is worthy of a ban. Because apparently you being angry means they should not be allowed to play?
Again, Have fun with that. Don't be surprised when no one gets banned for making you angry.
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I give people more credit for their actions than you; that's all the difference is. It's not about perks.
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Sounds like you need to play a single player game
It sounds like that Killer was playing to the strength of the Killer they chose
So how many Gens were done... how many hooks?
Did they Camp/Tunnel?
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I think you meant to say that you give them more BLAME so you can then scream they should be banned for imagined slights and 'intentions' you can't prove.
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So let's use your "logic" here.....Then Survivors should be banned too for using Head-On to bully the Killer or all bully Squads and players who make the Killer into their plaything should be banned as well......
You just want to punish players for playing the game just because the Killer had a build you didn't like isn't proof that they were deliberately playing to ruin YOUR "fun"
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It's not venting.
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I've seen streamers play SWF and use the garage/2-story house at Badham to head-on the Killer. If the behavior continues in the match I think it says something. The same thing with the Wraith I went against. He was slugging and griefing. You shouldn't be able deliberately ruin the experience of others in the game. Both examples do that.
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Posts like this make me understand why the autoban system never got implemented.
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I play Fortnite as well and the complaint I have here doesn't exist there. It doesn't have anything equivalent to bully squads or slugging against Solos (with the benefit/crutch of perks) because skill can still allow you a way out and the only way to overwhelm an opponent is with said skill. DBD is not like that. Perks and depending on whether or not Survivors are on comms makes the difference.
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Blindness needs to hide the red stain
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Going forward let's please keep the discussion focused on the game, and not other players. This is getting much too far into personal insult territory.
Thank you!
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He's anonymous because Survivors tend to shovel salt on Killer profiles after a match.
After my profile would get floods of '-rep camps/tunnels/slugs/uses Killers we don't like/whatever excuse I make up' and threats; I made my profile friends only.
After I kept getting friend invites from people I beat, just so they could scream at me in PMs; I set myself anonymous.
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So what’s the issue with these? This is usually an easy match since he doesn’t have any slow down and third seal is gone in a couple minutes at most. This looks like a meme build and a free win for me on survivor even in solo queue so I don’t get it.
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reaallly depends on the map. On like lerys/rpd yea it's really cringe when the killer is just trying to bleed people out and cheese solo players.
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The complain don't exist there for the simple reason of Fortnite not being an asymmetrical game, meaning all players have the sames tools to win and objectives to complete, and you have literally a mode where every player is a solo. Not only that, but you are comparing DbD to a game that doesn't even have perk loadouts (to be fair technically now it has, but they are randomly given through the match and the impact of those "perks" are not comparable to the ones in DbD). So, I don't get what point you are trying to make, much less taking in count the context behind my answer to you.
Either way, you are not only complaining about an specific no-meta perk loadout that I have yet to see in game, but claiming that anybody that uses it should be ban without even give reasons of why it is such a problem. No, just no.
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The comment was about multiplayer games and I gave an example where bullying/griefing is not possible and to succeed takes skill alone. Sportsmanship and skill in a nutshell. Why else would you play a multiplayer game? You can grief and bully in DBD, though. That's the problem. And it doesn't even take skill.
As far as META vs solo queue, there are a lot of ways to skin that cat. Knockout and Third Seal is a META build against Solos if you want to win and grief in the process.
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Can say for certain, nobody is going to be banned for any perks that they use!
Deerstalker, sloppy, third seal and knock-out, that's a build for a specific playstyle, and a legit one at that! Yes it might very well be stronger against solo survivors, it's also a good slowdown for SWF - as it gets players off gens to get up their team mates.
Players are free to choose what perks they wish and to play the style of game that they wish to play as long as it's within the game rules and this is not something that will be bannable not now or in the future.
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It might not violate the letter of the law, but the spirit of it? In addition to the perks, the Killer had no intention of picking us up and was anonymous in the process.
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Why else would you play a competitive multiplayer game? To compete and try to win, simple as that. Again, you are doing a false correlation between two games that has nothing to do with each other in any way.
And I don't know what you understand by "meta" and griefing, but using perks that aren't the ones that allow to play the most efficient and competitive way possible (hence, the most used perks) or just having a synergy that can be frustrating to play against are either of those things. And dude, TTS is an hex, you can literally turn it off.
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You can't really ban people for violating the 'spirit of the rule' because that line will be different for everyone screaming for bans because they assume the Killer's intent was to make them angry.
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There are multiple METAs against Solos. That's what I'm saying regarding the perks used. In this case, a specific load out built around Knockout and Third Seals against Solos is a META. Especially with Wraith. Watch Pro Vengeance on Youtube if you don't believe it; he goes on 50-game win streaks with nearly all the M1 Killers in this game. His builds are very specific, maybe niche, and always strong. As far as totems being able to be cleansed, the map was Pale Rose and it has pretty well-hidden totems at times.
As far as competition, it takes fair play, sportsmanship, and competitive balance. For both you and the opponent. It's not fun when these things are not taken seriously.
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It doesn't have to be about bans but it can lead to an increasingly toxic gameplay environment. Griefing/bullying can be obvious, though, and it was in this case. I mentioned to another forum member watching a streamer player in a 4-man SWF on Badham and using Head On against the Killer at the two-story house/garage. That's bullying and I understand that it can be both sides.
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Except it was not griefing as written by the rules.
The killer was a jerk, sure, but you can't just punish people for being jerks, or you end up with a game incredibly over-sanatized where everyone is terrified to do ANYTHING in the fear that someone, somewhere, will be offended and report them for 'griefing'.
That's why rules are enforced AS WRITTEN and not per the vague, ever-changing 'spirit' that different people will interpret in whatever way works best for them.
Actual griefing is if he found you and did it to you multiple times across many matches, showing that he was singling you out.
Laugh it off and move on. The last time I had a Killer slug me and nod over my body to get under my skin; I just laughed and read a book until I bled out.
The last time I had Survivors abuse literal exploits so they could not be picked up, I was playing Trapper. So I encircled his body with traps so his friends could not take a hit while picking him up. And he could not use his multiple Get-Up-Alone perks to get free. His only choice was to either A) Move, and then I could pick him up or B) Wait me out. I threw the game to ensure he, and he explicitly, bled out. Because cheaters get the slow death.
Being a jerk is not cool, but you can't demand people get punished because you got angry. Sure, SOME of the events are clear bullying.
But you know what? I have had many, MANY matches where I got accused of griefing by salty Survivors because they ASSUMED I was playing to be a jerk, when all I was doing was whatever I thought was my best move at the time. I had no intention of 'ruining their game'. I was just playing to win, and so were they.
Story time:
Like the time I 'slugged' someone (We will call him Person #1) because his friend (Person #2) was 5 feet away, and they went down in a pallet. So I chased #2, smacked him, and went back. Person #1 was JUST getting up by Person #3, so I downed Person #1 again, then chased #3, and hit him. Turned around, #2 was helping #1 up. So I downed #1 for the THIRD TIME, but he was still in a pallet, and people were nearby.
So I downed #2, who was hiding to pallet save, still injured. Turned around and #3 was waiting to pallet save as well, still injured. So I downed #3. All 3 people DC'd. And I got accused of 'trolling' and 'slugging' and 'griefing'. All because THEY played badly and decided to assume I was playing to ruin their fun rather than admit they just were too altruistic.
And THAT is why you can't just assume someone is ruining your fun. Because 7 times out of 10; They're not. It's someone just assuming the intent of their opponent and thinking 'I got angry, so CLEARLY they were TRYING to make me angry!'
It's also why so many players get nasty in end-game chat; They ASSUME their opponent was being toxic and think 'They were toxic FIRST, so it's okay if I go off! They asked for it!'
Side note: I apologize for the caps words. I use them as stressors, since this is a non-verbal medium. It's not me internet shouting, I swear. 😁
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You think using a perk should be a bannable offense?
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