Is there still a reason we wont change leather face? Especially now with deadlock
I just dont understand how we can finally add base kit bt so people have a chance to live off hook, but we still wont look at bubbas power. I dont care that XYZ killer can also camp there is nothing wrong with camping. However there is a problem when a killers power simply makes it impossible to save off hook without both people getting downed. The response to this we all know is "just do gens" but now dead lock is a perk, which as long as the bubba can get a down decently quickly, can confirm at least a 2k. stack on maybe pain res DMS or noed no way out and its a 3k or 4k every single game. Leather face is a joke of a killer, very fun to face when playing for the chase, 0 fun when sitting still in front of a hook. I think the devs need to finally look at this killer and decide if they want leather face to be an actual well respected killer in this game or just kind of be like I said a joke. I know many people will see this as a hot take but I just dont understand going all this way to do something like 10 seconds of BT off hook base kit to help people from dying instantly but still have leather face be able to down the unhooker, BT check the unhooked player and then still be able to down them unless there just happens to be a window 5 feet from the hook that can be fast vaulted. And like I said I have no problem with some camping and tunneling it happens, its part of the game, so be it, but why does leather face get a pass and just be able to completely counter the system they added. Am I crazy for just wanting bubba to be fun to face? I get a good amount of them and id say at least 8/10 of them in front of the hook sitting still after their first down. Id love to hear some feedback and other peoples experiences. I guess I am also venting a bit but I do want to discuss this point and I think it would be nice to not see anymore face camping bubbas. When I load into a match Id like to not sit on a gen and watch my team mate rot on hook with 0 chance of saving or sit on hook myself for 2 mins with no chance of being saved then die. Id like to actually play the game and it always makes me laugh a bit that the people who choose to play this way also slug people to death and just play in a very unpleasant manner, body humping, hitting on hook, head nodding, and then being extremely rude in end game chat, not enough to get banned, but enough to get the point across that they probably are not very nice people. Would be nice to finally see the end of all of that. Thanks for coming to my ted talk would love to hear about your personal experience.
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I agree with you. So far it's the killer I dislike playing as or against him the most (or at least in a different way of how I dislike SM). And if the solution to playing against him is 'sacrifice the first downed survivor and do gens' I definitely see a flaw in design. Most bubbas I see use the Insidious + camping tactic. Unless you're playing in a SWFs, chances are you're going to take the bait. And if you're not, I really don't enjoy having another player waste all their time on hook just so I can do gens and leave. I don't usually DC, but playing against an Insidious Bubba does make me want to. Which I don't, usually, but it really makes me want to DC and give them less BP. Or just do nothing so they can't gain chase BP / whatever.
It is true that his power, playing fairly without addons, is not that simple to use, but nonetheless... In addition, Bubba has a very damaged reputation so that even if I play fairly as him and only hook 2/3 times people will constantly tbag and annoy me.
Nah, I really have issues with Bubba in a lot of ways and wish he was reworked. But I don't think he will ever be.
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I agree idk why his camping ability hasnt been changed. He needs some buffs in chase but his camping ability just makes him boring to play vs
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I think it's been long overdue since 6.1.0's increase to gen times, either that or some adjustments to the hook timers may be nice, like 10-20 extra seconds per state
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Yes face camping still exists. Yes tunneling off hook still exists. But it's not going to go anywhere cause that's just the objective of the game. Killer wants to kill survivors and survivors want to survive. The devs can't really stop the killer from doing his objective even if he's going about it in a scummy way.
Tunneling is also a separate issue because the game requires you to do it for efficient killer gameplay. So how are you going to stop toxic low effort tunneling without hurting strategic tunneling for higher end play?
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