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Freddy buff terrorradius

ATM, when people are in the Nightmare they hear a distant Terror radius but the effects of the addonsare not working. I think it would be nice if all addons that work with terrorradius would work in the nightmare too. Than people would be more forced to wake emself up and it would be more of a "nightmare" for them.

Maybe make the addons work not at 100% strenght but at a lower rate like 50 or 75%. I know that 100% of the time Coulrophobie would be a bit too strong, but i think there is room to use between "nothing works" and "everything at 100%".

Comments

  • Gandor
    Gandor Member Posts: 4,268

    Freddy definitely needs buffs.

    But I personally don't like this idea. Survivors don't hear TR, because they are oblivious. Lullaby has no direction instead TR. So this means Freddy would require special-type of TR that nobody else has for no good reason.

    Just give him both fake pallets AND snares (togglable with Ctrl same as clown with his bottles) and make the addons that changed his snares to pallets just have more pallets or snares. That's probably the easiest change.

  • Hanuka5
    Hanuka5 Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2023


    That is not correct. Surviors are hearing a distance TR 100% of the time + the lullaby.

    So "So this means Freddy would require special-type of TR that nobody else has for no good reason." would not be needed. Instead atm its turned the other way, even though the survivors are hearing the TR they are not getting affected by the perks.

  • Batusalen
    Batusalen Member Posts: 1,323
    edited August 2023

    I think you misunderstood the difference between "Terror Radius" and "Lullaby" when they are not the same. Survivors are not hearing the terror radius because like already was said, they have the Oblivious status effect when they are asleep. And if they don't hear the TR, they are not affected by anything TR related. This is not something exclusive of Freddy, as that's the way Oblivious works.

    So, what you are asking for is either for them to remove the Oblivious status effect so survivors would hear the TR when in the Dream World, which would be a nerf, or to create another status effect or "TR" effect just for him, something that I don't see happening.

    Another solution would be make Oblivious to allow TR effects even if survivors don't hear it, but that would make some perks combinations and killers too OP and would need a general balance... so I don't see this happening either.

  • Gandor
    Gandor Member Posts: 4,268
    edited August 2023

    As @Batusalen already explained, it is a thing. What I wanted to add to that is - that TR is directional. Meaning you can discern from which general direction is the killer coming. This is not the case for Lullaby - where you hear just intensity (so you can say killer is far or killer is near, but you can't say killer is left of me or killer is on my right).

    As I said - I am all for buffing Freddy. He clearly needs it. It's just that the way you propose the buff to be implemented does not sit right with me.

  • Hanuka5
    Hanuka5 Member Posts: 162

    I think you dindt played against the nightmare or doctor alonger time. Same as Doctors addons "CALM" let you hear a distance terror radius (not a lullaby), is it with the nightmare too. The nightmare has Lullaby + distance TR.


    So, what you are asking for is either for them to remove the Oblivious status effect

    No thats not what im asking.

  • Batusalen
    Batusalen Member Posts: 1,323

    Em... no, you can't hear the Terror Radius of Freddy in the Dream World because again, you are afflicted with Oblivious and Oblivious prevents you to hear it.

    Simple as that.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,429

    If you're using the visual heartbeat feature. This shows as a red blob in the center of the screen when you're under the effect of a Lullaby.

    If you're within the Terror Radius, you will see a heart icon.

    There is no 'distant Terror Radius', you're either in it or youre not.

  • KaTo1337
    KaTo1337 Member Posts: 554

    Another Freddy-Post. Hell, this guy wont be forgotten by the community. Hopes are high he will receive an update soon.

    Would be nice if BHVR would do another Q&A-Stream. Havent seen one since January 2022 (I can understand why they dont do it, but cmon, we are 2 years away. Give us more Streams and let us see your lovely faces more often, Devs).

  • Hanuka5
    Hanuka5 Member Posts: 162

    "Madness II: Survivors intermittently hear a distant Illusionary Terror Radius."

    There are two possibilites now. First one is that BHVR dont know their own game and write it wrong. Or the second possibility is that you define terror radius other as BHVR does.

    Just in case: Im talking about the Terror Radius definition of BHVR and not of yours. But im not even sure why we are talking about it because im pretty sure that you understood what i mean

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,429
    edited August 2023

    The keyword here is illusionary.

    This is specific to The Doctor. It is the appearance of being within the terror radius even at a distance.

    Freddy doesn't have this.

    You are not understanding how Freddy or Lullabies work.

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,072

    he doesn't understand difference between a lullaby, terror radius and heartbeat. he wants freddy to have regular heartbeat in dream world so perks like unnerving presence work. Freddy is suppose to be a stealth killer. He was stealth killer before his rework but he got changed. The idea behind him being stealth killer is that he is living nightmare that nobody can track and exists globally in the world. that is kinda of their lore idea behind that.

    terror radius perks do not work on freddy because survivor in the dream world are inflicted by oblivious status effect. oblivious suppress your heartbeat. Survivor cannot tell how close or how far freddy is but they can heat lullaby music that he is in the area.