Make New Myers and Scratched Mirror 4.4m/s?
Preface
I wanna preface this by saying... I bloody hate Scratched Mirror Myers... I'm just gonna get it outta the way and say it...
It doesnt scare me cause it's so predictable and I always end up dying because I always get bored of my team being too cowardly to touch gens and Myers constantly harassing me cause I'm the only one with the guts to take the chance and force him to show his hand... eventually I just get annoyed enough to recklessly commit to a gen and either it breaks or I die... but a lot for people like it, and far be it from me to put my personal disdain ahead of everyone else's enjoyment…
So if the consensus is leave Scratched Mirror as is for the memes, then fair enough...
Context
All that said... I mostly dislike SM because it only works on maybe 3 maps and is otherwise a ludicrously bad add-on, and this won't change from the PTB.
To recap the PTB changes relevant to Scratched Mirror:
- Increased Evil Within I movement speed to 4.4 m/s (was 4.2 m/s)
- Scratched Mirror: Decreases Evil Within I movement speed to 4.2 m/s (NEW)
All other changes are not applicable, and the result is Scratched Mirror remains exactly the same as it is now.
What change would you propose?
Instead of Scratched Mirror reducing Myers speed to 4.2m/s, instead I propose
Scratched Mirror:
- Removes Undetectable status while in Evil Within I. (NEW)
- While stalking the Shape is Undetectable. (NEW)
- Optional: When the Shape's aura is revealed to a survivor, that survivors auras is revealed to the Shape. (NEW)
Effects
A little piece of Trivia for you, did you know that Myers has a terror radius of 6m in Evil Within 1? It doesn't matter cause he's Undetectable, but it's a fun little piece of Trivia that he technically has the smallest TR in the game. This change would mean this value is actually used in the game.
This would mean at 4.4m/s with Scratched Mirror:
- He could still take M&A to have an effective 0 TR (though the value of which is questionable, but is a fun idea).
- He could be revealed by survivor auras, such as Blood Amber, Eyes of Belmont, Alert, Inner Focus, Wiretap, Object of Obsession, etc while walking around normally.
- He would have a red lightweight while not stalking, which makes some of the pain points I have with him far less annoying.
- He can take Jewellery Box (+30%) and have a Undetectable movement speed of 3.432m/s while passive stalking. Without stalk speed add-ons this would 2.64m/s. This would mean he is like old Scratched Mirror, but he is further slowed down, and can't stay completely hidden for free, making his ability to decipher survivor perks still relevant.
- For assistance deciphering auras, the Shape's optional ability helps with that, but I'm not sure if it's too much.
Would this be better for Mikey? Worse? Would the community lament the loss of classic Scratched Mirror Myers?
I think this change would be interesting myself, cause with Mikey now being all about stalking from a distance, this add-on will be much more about getting up in survivors faces, and with a speed of 4.4 m/s, it's actually not as ridiculous as it might seem.
There is of course a problem that is starts looking kinda similar to Vanity Mirror though... so that might be a good reason to axe this suggestion.
However interested in thoughts!
Comments
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What if I told you that you literally just described the Vanity Mirror?
Small TR instead of Undetectable, can be seen by aura reading abilities. That's the Vanity Mirror.
What they should do is simply make him 4.4m/s with Scratched Mirror, and make his lunge 0.4.
Why do survivors mains hate Scratched Mirror? Because he only hits & runs. Well guess what? If he was faster he wouldn't have to.
"But 4.4 Scratched Mirror would be OP"
The mere existence of Vanity Mirror is proof that that's not true.
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What if I told you that you literally just described the Vanity Mirror?
Well I did mention that as a potential problem when I said "There is of course a problem that it starts looking kinda similar to Vanity Mirror though..." 😅
The main difference would be his Undetectable would be something he could trigger, would be a bit like Pig with her Amanda's Letter add-on, but with no TR when not in stealth.
It's also why I added the optional aura read when his aura is revealed so Myrrs can easily identitlfy aura perks in play for survivors and react accordingly.
Why do survivors mains hate Scratched Mirror? Because he only hits & runs. Well guess what? If he was faster he wouldn't have to.
I think it's safe to stay he still would hit and run, he'd just be way better at it and even more obnoxious in Lery's, Hawkins and Midwich.
"But 4.4 Scratched Mirror would be OP"
The mere existence of Vanity Mirror is proof that that's not true.
I mean, its still Myers, he's never gonna be OP. I never said he was OP with Scratched Mirror, just annoying, and I wouldn't want to make him more annoying. 😅
Vanity Mirror is fun. I ran it with Jewellery Box, FttE, Lethal Pursuer, M&A with Deadlock for slowdown, and it's actually pretty decent. You can move pretty quick while looking at survivors through walls and catch people off guard with perfect mind games round corners at any high tiles. LP and M&A is there to ensure we can always find our target whenever we want and can approach from any LoS blocker for hits.
With this Scratched Mirror you can ditch M&A and LP because your aura range is much longer, and can look at taking something like Make Your Choice and Coup instead with FttE.
I think the counter aura read and the on demand Undetectable sets it apart enough from VM to at least be interesting, and that's the point of this thread 😅
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