Anti-Camp + Self-Unhook Rework

Iron_Cutlass

I had this idea to would change how Self-Unhooking and Anti-Camp would work to make it more effective at doing it's job.

~ Self-Unhook now has the default chance set to 0%. At 0% chance of Self-Unhook, you are unable to attempt to Self-Unhook.

• The intention behind this is to prevent Survivors from being able to immediately give up on hook unless certain perks are present; Self-Unhook is still possible if Perks/Offerings that affect luck are present.

~ Survivor Perks/Offerings changed.

• Up The Ante has been buffed to provide all players a +4% (was +3%) chance to Self-Unhook for all players alive within a trial; Up The Ante can now reach +16% luck instead of +12%.
• Slippery Meat has been buffed to provide an increased flat +8% (was +4%) chance to Self-Unhook.
• All luck Offerings have been buffed to provide a flat +4% bonus to Self-Unhooking.
• When stacking luck effects, this will result in a higher % of Self-Unhook chance, which serves as a buff for luck as a whole.

~ The Anti-Camp Feature now provides a progressive increase of luck. At 50% progress, it provides a 50% chance of Self-Unhook. Attempting to Self-Unhook removes 50% of current progress from the Anti-Camp Feature.

• 100% progress in the Anti-Camp Feature still allows for a +100% chance to Self-Unhook.
• Now provides more opportunities to free yourself if the Killer is camping the hook. Often Survivors will reach close to 100% progress but wont be able to Self-Unhook, this provides a greater opportunity for Survivors to escape the hook but not guaranteed.

~ Killer Perks/Offerings changed.

• Scourge Hook: Gift of Pain has been buffed to provide a flat -4% chance to Self-Unhook.
• Scourge Hook: Monstrous Shrine has been buffed to provide a flat -10% chance to Self-Unhook if the Killer if further than 24-meters away, it has also been nerfed to provide a flat +5% chance to Self-Unhook if the Killer is within 24-meters of the hook.
• Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick has been reworked to include an additional effect; Survivors who attempt to Self-Unhook can receive a randomized change to their Self-Unhook chance, this randomized change can be between a +10% chance to Self-Unhook or a -20% chance to Self-Unhook. Regardless if the modifier is negative or positive, it will always show as a positive modifier to Self-Unhook chance, leaning more towards the "trick" aspect of Hangman's Trick.

With these change ideas in mind, I think DBD can open the door for the luck mechanic to be stronger but to have a ramp-up effect in terms of potential.

Furthermore, it is likely to reduce the immediate nature of "going next" found from the Survivor's end.

Rulebreaker

While we like the buffs to luck, wouldn't someone just throw something like a jar of salty lips as "insurance" to go to next?

BugReporterOnly

I honestly believe that 4% and perks like Deliverance should deactivate in ECG.

BugReporterOnly

Not sure what happened here sorry about the empty post?

Iron_Cutlass

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3858824#Comment_3858824

That is a possibility but at least it is going to cost them since they would be forced to bring in a respective offering every game. At the very least, it serves to not make it free every game or require them to bring perks/offerings to do so.

Adrien

The only problem I see with the anti-camp bar progress giving luck is that if the killer gives just only 1% anti-camp progress, it's still a free pass for suiciding on hook.

I'll stick to 0% luck basekit and only perks/offerings give the ability to attempt a self unhook.

Changes to anti-camp :

I would speed up the anti-camp progress bar by 20% basekit and the bar should shows to other survivors. Only survivors entering a chase nearby the hooked survivor would pause the progress (instead of just a hidden teammate nearby).