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Kill Switch update: We have temporarily Kill Switched the Forgotten Ruins Map due to an issue that causes players to become stuck in place. The Map will remain out of rotation until this is resolved.

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9.1.0 | PTB Patch Notes

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  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 4,970
    edited July 17

    What do you mean Distortion needs charges?

    You literally use the Blood Amber key for an advantage in chase... Distortion charges by being in chase, and Distortion barely takes any time to charge up at all.... the benefit of Distortion here is obvious... probably the strongest combo there is with modern Blood Amber.

    OOO is fine man, I run it with OTR to prevent being tunneled, but if you play with it and have nerves og steel, it's often more of a benefit than a detriment. The only stealth killer it really hurts you against is Wraith, everyone else like Pig, Myers, Ghost Face, it doesn't really make a difference, and the tracking and stats boosts otherwise are pretty nice. Quite often you'll see the killer, and they aren't even looking your direction. It's a shame it doesn't work with Eyes of Belmont though 😢

    I mean sure... but if you're gonna have that downside, the Blood Amber needs to be buffed considerably elsewhere, because key should be much stronger for this purpose, but with that downside, then the Map Iri is just objectively better.

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 4,243

    Tbh, that Map iri shouldn't exist.

    Balance aside, it doesn't fit thematically, as Maps only track objects. In the same update, they removed the Empathy effect from Bloodsense maps, so there was no change of plans either.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    The key has a massively bigger range, which means the survivor can use it while the killer is much farther away. Keys also have the basekit ability to see survivor auras, which means if the killer is chasing someone else, the key's normal ability could be used to reveal where the killer is, by revealing the survivor being chased.

    The map's beam of light is much much smaller, and it's centered on the survivor, and the beam doesn't move. This means if the survivor uses the map, and tries to run away, the aura reveal circle doesn't move with the survivor (unlike the key's aura reveal circle, which does move with the survivor). So depending on where the survivor runs to, the killer might exit the map's aura circle before its timer runs out…and in the worst case scenario, the survivor guessed incorrectly and ran in the wrong direction, and the killer reaches the survivor without having its aura revealed.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    It’s not a synergy. It’s people wanting to bypass an intentional downside of an addon.

    And having a low pick rate doesn’t mean something is balanced. Current blood amber is overtuned, even though it doesn’t have a high pick rate.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    Blood amber is clearly being modeled after Object of Obsession, which requires the survivor’s aura to be revealed.

    As in, this should intended to be a mandatory downside, that shouldn’t be bypassed.

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,629

    Why not? If survivors want to run stuff to bypass a downside let them.

    Killers do it, I gave you an entire list. Dark Arrogance makes you vault faster but has a big downside that Killers, if they so choose, can work around. I don't see you complaining about it.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    Because some downsides aren’t intended to be bypassed.

    Yes, some downsides can be bypassed, but it’s INTENDED for players to be able to fully or partially bypass those downsides.

  • YuffieGreatestWaifu
    YuffieGreatestWaifu Member Posts: 478

    It gives you the same footing as the killer since they can see you.

  • YuffieGreatestWaifu
    YuffieGreatestWaifu Member Posts: 478

    How many swfs run that when they can run a superior Med kit and syringe combo.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    You’re literally trying to argue that game bugs don’t exist.

    There have been many things in this game, that happened, but weren’t designed that way. That’s literally what a game bug is.

    It’s valid to say that BHVR can decide if something is intended or not. But it’s not valid to say something is intended just because it’s the way the game currently works.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    That logic implies BHVR never accidentally words perks incorrectly.

    I’m literally asking for BHVR to make a rules clarification.

  • DBD2025MakesMeSad
    DBD2025MakesMeSad Member Posts: 58

    But only survivor downsides shouldn't be bypassed, right? Killer should always have a way around a downside.

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,667

    It matters if that is intended or not. For example, it's not intended for Clown to bypass the number of carried bottles if he equips Pinkie Finger, so Clown should not be able to bypass that.

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683

    I will assume the next coming Killer or Killer perks will be done to bypass some of the buffs to certain Survivor things, or at least that the MMR changes planned will finally hardstick strong teams and sweatier Killers against each other where they belong since they all play at a level with a degree of unfun coordination that the casuals don't enjoy playing at. Hopefully casual players will never have to see either again outside of events, right, BHVR?

  • FatherGrim
    FatherGrim Member Posts: 2

    Coming back to say that after some research, these clown changes are abysmal. I can't believe you can revamp pyramid head in such an excellent way, yet butcher the clown.

    A killer with such little actual pressure shouldn't be receiving nerfs like this, when ######### blight, nurse, and ghoul exist. A few buffs and addons made baseline would have been great, even with the reduced hindered speed.......but this? Jesus christ.

  • Choaron
    Choaron Member Posts: 818

    We have 1 day left to enjoy our killer, clownbros.