Sadako Deserves a Rework; My Suggestion
I'm reposting here because I mistakenly posted in General Discussions first, apologies.
I've been thinking about this recently because I honestly feel like the way condemn works genuinely cripples her design space. Condemn is both exceptionally powerful and exceptionally inconsistent. That power prevents her from having any meaningful ability in any other area despite the fact actually getting the mori often only happens to a single survivor if at all. Not to mention being an M1 killer with absolutely no chase power and no alternative reward is truly abysmal. Teleport spamming to all of your TVs, aimlessly hoping to hit people with stacks unbeknownst to you is not very engaging. As survivor, being condemned because you couldn't reach your TV in time and you're dead at 0 hooks is not very engaging.
Here's what I would change:
- Basekit Iri-tape: Teleporting to TVs no longer shuts them off and not longer spreads condemn. The onus should be on the survivors to disrupt her power. Short CD on teleporting such that it can't be spammed for information.
- Holding a tape now starts a timer. Holding it too long will expose the survivor and grant the Onryo killer instinct.
- Manifest invisibility will occur exactly when you manifest, rather than shortly after. The intent is to both make the mind game more intentional and accessible, while including survivors to engage in the 50/50.
- "Condemn" is now a team wide effect that slowly fills as the trial goes on; it has 7 slots (like the 7 days of the ring). It is reduced for each tape delivered by survivors. If it becomes full, all survivors become exposed and scream, revealing their location. Condemn slots reduce by 1 every 10 seconds during this time and all TVs are cursed (cannot receive tapes) for its duration. Any outstanding tape timers are reduced by half when Condemn is triggered and are paused for its duration.
- Unmentioned effects remain the same, such as haste from teleporting and no collision demanifest.
I'm not sure how long Condemn should take to fill or how soon tapes should expose as those numbers definitely need testing and tuning, but I feel this is a significantly better direction than aimlessly teleporting so you can mori a survivor. Her power won't be exposing left and right if managed, and she'll have SOMETHING on her side despite her lack of chase power. Ideally it should feel urgent that the survivors manage Condemn, rewarding when delivering a tape, and not impossible for the Onryo to benefit from exposed. Something like Cenobites Box.
Add-on concepts:
- All survivors without tapes are given one when a generator is completed. Tape expose timer will pause if survivor is in chase.
- Hooking a survivor will increase Condemn by 1 slot.
- Teleporting will curse all TVs and turn them off. (preventing both further teleporting or tape delivery for its duration). Condemn charge rate is slower.
- Reduce the range that survivors holding a tape can see the Onryo while demanifested.
- Remove the Onryos lullaby for survivors holding a tape while demanifested (effectively undetectable)
- Various status effect addons for either holding a tape, sitting in rage of powered TVs, or being in range of a teleport.
- Survivors holding a tape will become your obsession upon injuring them.
- Expose timer speeds up if the survivor is doing a generator while holding a tape.
- If we MUST keep the mori somewhere, an addon could change Condemn expose to moriable and remove tape timers.
Her gameplay of teleporting and manifesting/demanifesting is actually quite fun, and I feel these changes redistribute the power consolidated on her base kit mori; keeping the actually fun parts of the kit while making it more consistent. Her current state is frankly overly weak, a feast or famine that famines too consistently. I've said once and I'll say it again; it isn't engaging gameplay spamming teleport literally hoping you land a condemn, and it isn't fun being moried far too early if you're caught in a bad position. Please consider these changes.
Comments
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I wish they give her back the TV animations which gave you info that someone is close. Also I think that she should spread condemned around Tvs she tps to and tapes should give you passively one stack each 30s
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