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Can not win games as solo survivor now.

Rank 10 currently as I didn't play much after reset as I was waiting on the update

Now before anyone says "git gud", I've been red rank countless times and gone against the best of killers.

The problem at low ranks is survivors are getting demolished. I can evade the killer or extend a chase with them far longer than anyone else in the game does. It's still not enough though and not only does the team get wiped out easily but they do so with many generators left remaining. These people are either unable to prolong a chase with the killer and go down in under 20 seconds or they just lack basic game knowledge and make poor decisions.

Either way we're just losing game after game after game after game.

I'm not sure exactly what is causing this as it wasn't this bad before the patch. I think it could be a combination of every killer have Ruin now (its pretty much 90% of games seriously) and obviously low ranks aren't used to it, and the removal of DS which used to have a huge impact.

I say this as someone who plays killer a lot but you've gotta do something for survivors. They're getting wrecked out there. I'd love to know what the survival rates are, especially for people that aren't 3-4 man swf.

The worst part is I can't rank up and play with people with my own level of experience because of the AWFUL new ranking system. When my team are getting demolished so hard there's just no way to pip.

No hyperbole you've actually completely ruined solo survivor imo. At least for anyone stuck at low rank.

Comments

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    I havn't had any issues. The only games I ever depip on are when there are DC's (which is A LOT of games right now) but that is another issue and unrelated. If you are depipping even when there's no DC's then that is a personal skill issue and I don't mean that in a rude way. Maybe you were red rank before, but there were A LOT of people at red ranks that shouldn't have been.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    Survivors are playin so bad it feels like there has been a free weekend. Saw some recently going down extremely fast. When the killer chased me guess what I saw? Not a single pallet had been used.

    Really? No wonder they're getting obliterated.

    I play killer and people run away from jungle gyms to the corner of the map where there are no pallets, no vaults, nothing. That's what beginners do.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    Solo survivor is just either you die trying to actually do the objective or be one of those immersed survivors who is going to try and outlive you do 0 gens and get hatch :/

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited March 2019

    "killer has become so easy now that weak to average killers can destroy weak to average survivors."

    All you're talking about here is low ranks essentially. Killer is always strong at low ranks because the survivors are stupid.

    As soon as you have both sides playing very well the game is extremely in survivors favor.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    Except 0-1 gen gets done now because newbie survivors can't work through Ruin.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    But how am I meant to get out of scrub ranks when my team gets destroyed in under 2 minures and now you can't earn enough to pip when that happens?

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    Well that has more to do with the matchmaking system being broken right now and you being put with super low ranks. Also, survivor side is probably slightly too difficult to pip atm.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    They aren't super low though. They can be rank 10 playing like they're rank 20.

    If it ends up being a red rank killer then I can understand why the newbies went down but often tbe killers are low rank too.

    In short...I just dont get why survivors have been so bad recently. I can not stress enough how bad they have been playing. Genuinely like rank 20s. I've no idea why. I don't expect everyone on my side to be a pro I just want them to have a chase last longer than 20 seconds. Or not go in lockers when the killer is within view of them.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    I include rank 10 when I say low ranks. Rank 10's play very poorly.

  • NathanExplosion
    NathanExplosion Member Posts: 337

    @The_Crusader "Except 0-1 gen gets done now because newbie survivors can't work through Ruin."

    And ?

    So we should adapt the game to weak survivors, instead of them adapting to the game ? (aka gitting gud)

    I'm still wondering how grown adults can get to this conclusion if they're aren't trolls.

    Honest thought.

  • ShirtlessDwight
    ShirtlessDwight Member Posts: 190

    That unhook shitshow is thx to the new ranking system. People rush to get points instead of playing the game like they used to.

  • Sonicwb
    Sonicwb Member Posts: 39
    edited March 2019

    Many post like this and still no patch, wth? Even as a Killer Main I can agree on survivors getting wrecked. DCs are all over the place. Game feels so unbalanced way too much. Revert back and leave it! Ranking system is awful. Match ups are horrible. I enjoy playing as the killer, but when I choose the other side, I get to understand why so many are quitting.

  • NathanExplosion
    NathanExplosion Member Posts: 337

    @Bug_Reporter

    Just change your profile picture to this already !


  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited March 2019

    But they've adapted the game to weak killers. Bloodlust, NOED, months of survivor nerfs.

    Why don't the killers have to "git gud"?

    The killers I'm going against aren't anything special and range from poor to average. They never learned how to tackle loops but hey bloodlust and ######### survivors are here to save the day!

    Don't tell me to loop them all game either because you can't pip if you do that.

    Solo survivor seems harder than ever but killer feels easier than ever. Hmm I wonder if they could be related. I actually feel bad for surviviors now because of how quickly they're getting wiped out.

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,260

    Bloodlust got nerfed atleast twice, noed lost its acdr, that got nerfed in that sense too. Noed didnt suddenly become stronger, survivors simply became too lazy to cleanse totems after establishing the genrush metas etc. And since unhooks gave that much instant BP, hooks get darmed greedily with a care. Altruism is at a high so survs dont simply gtfo as soon the gates are open.

    The whole thread has been about loerank possibly noob survivors being stupid and unwilling to learn. Harsh truth but thats reality.

  • prayer_survivor
    prayer_survivor Member Posts: 626

    this game is not funny anymore for solos. In few weeks/months you´ll have to wait about 10 minutes to play as killer

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    Solo survivor is in a good spot. I don't have any issues with ranking and the challenge of pipping is good for forming the team concept. Its good that you cat pip up without helping the team, it stops the loop runners from thinking that one trick makes them ranked gods.

  • Kaelum
    Kaelum Member Posts: 994

    The problem is that the Benevolence emblem is giving way too many points, especially for saves. After 2 saves I had 240%+ benevolence, which is absolutely ridiculous. The other half of the issue is that Evader is giving out no points at all. I ran a killer through 2 very long chases where 2 gens were completed during each chase, maxing out my Boldness at 8,000, yet I only received a Silver emblem with like 50% Evader. #########?

    Which brings up a separate issue regarding the Obsession. BHVR needs to announce that running an Obsession perk only increases your chance of being the Obsession, it no longer garauntees that you are running an Obsession perk. All survivors start out with an equal chance of being the Obsession, whether you are running a perk or not, while those who are running an Obsession perk will have a slightly higher chance. From what I’ve been seeing, 70-80% of the time, the Obsession is not running an Obsession perk.

  • JetTheWaffleCat
    JetTheWaffleCat Member Posts: 284

    Solo is in an awkward state. Most the time you get survivors that Urban Evade in very unnecessary times. They Self Care at the wrong time. They sit on gens while someone is hooked, which leads to the hooked survivor eating two hook states then probably getting farmed. But if you have a good team, killer gets wrecked.

    It just all leads to the fact that most players in this game are, in nice people terms, not very good. Survivor emblems are now very orientated towards a SWF squad rather than a solo gamer. It feels like no matter how much you do, you can't pip up.

    The Ruin changes aren't very good. The idea that perks get better as they tier up is nice. Now it's basically the same on all tiers of Ruin. I don't think it's a crutch on killers minus Nurse and Billy. I agree that games can end ridiculously fast without it sometimes.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    I dont have issues unless someones DCs in my team (which happens most of the time lul)

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    I've had troubles pipping, too. You get people dropping like flies (or straight up running into the killer's arms after you save them) or DCing. In games where everyone gets out, I sometimes still don't pip especially if the killer wasn't very good and didn't catch anyone.

    There honestly should be more built in things to help Solo. It needs to be brought up to SWF level, but they're being coy about it. No, I don't want to waste a perk slot on Kindred if I wouldn't have to in a SWF. Why does that not make sense?

  • fluffybunny
    fluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @NeaJovovichHonestly everyone should just SWF with how things are currently, I guess. Bite them in the butt since those same killer mains rarely like SWF.

  • NathanExplosion
    NathanExplosion Member Posts: 337

    @Bug_Reporter

    Good answer, i LOL'ed


  • CornChip
    CornChip Member Posts: 540

    I don't believe its laziness causing survivors to not cleanse dull totems. I personally believe its because they have to genrush like crazy to have a chance to survive. They have to be super efficient when playing solo. All imo of course

  • Troman
    Troman Member Posts: 264
    edited April 2019

    Solo survivor is absolutely unplayable. The escape rate is about 15% and now it's almost impossible to pip. DEVs show us the middle figner, they don't seem to care at all.

  • Kind_Lemon
    Kind_Lemon Member Posts: 2,559

    I’ve been so focused on getting gens done as fast as possible as a survivor because the killer could potentially come over and regress all progress back to zero if

    A. everyone’s being stealthy so there are no chases to be had

    B. The killer is putting a tremendous anount of map pressure on the team.

    Someone else always seems to take the killer’s attention, giving me no practice in chases. I’m getting pips too often when I’m not even showing how unskilled I am. I rank up, and when there’s a game where no survivor is good at being chased, doing flashlight saves, etc., it’s a massacre. I’m often not even trying to survive at those points—I just try to farm teammates for points because I won’t get nearly as much if I was stealthy, finished a gen or two, searched some chests, or sabo’d hooks. I honestly play worse because of how little points stealth rewards on top of not having opportunities to better my chase game.

    It’s nearly impossible to make a stealthy save given that killers know where the hook is and solo players can’t coordinate on stealth strategies. There have been no hook related stealth perks since We’ll Make It, which allows for the unhooker to quiet and remove the blood trail from an unhooked survivor.

    Like, seriously? My experience is made worse just because emblem and bloospoint balancing are bad?


    I don’t know if pallet stuns need to give less points, if proximity stealth should give more, or if it would be smarter for all scoring events to be hidden from the players during the match, but I know that this is the part of the game that requires urgent care.

  • smart212
    smart212 Member Posts: 136

    i play in solo survivor from 15 matches. only 2 match winnin on the game. definitely frustrating

  • Avarice10
    Avarice10 Member Posts: 482

    Playing with low rank survivors is honestly depressing, they go down in what feels like 10 seconds, if that. Not a fun experience, it's enough to make you think every killer in the game is OP. Best bet is to bring Prove Thyself and WGLF and farm points, find a person to coop on gens, and if they're getting stomped go for hook saves, do what you can to get to higher ranks where you'll get better survivors, just be sure to not be a potato survivor in high ranks or the killers will tear you a new one.