Is this game ever going to address how OP Billy Is?
Those of you who would argue how Billy is NOT OP, dont bother. You know you’re lying. Everyone knows it.
The fact is that most Biilies I play against over roughly level 7 can chainsaw you from short, medium, or long distances, in open areas or mazes, houses etc. If you can master Billy you are pretty much guaranteed 4ks every game unless facing a fierce 4 man swf. And heaven help you if you’re the last survivor and haven’t found the hatch. You are not getting out with the new Endgame Collapse. Hell ANY killer can cover both gates 75% of the time.
Im not saying it doesn’t take skill to play Billy, it does. But someone who masters a killer shouldn’t be guaranteed a 4k any more than someone who masters survivor should be uncatchable.
The standard high level Billy game goes like this: Game starts. Ruin is up. He races to a gen and downs someone. He’s running bbq. Not everyone can get to a closet. He hooks and races to the guy he saw with bbq. Meanwhile the 1st guy is unhooked. He hooks the 2nd guy and goes back to the first hook area and/or uses bbq. Repeat until all survivors are thoroughly owned. The main problem is the fact that good billies can chainsaw you at close range from a dead stop no matter the environment. When a billy races up near you and can then immediately rev up, and chainsaw you while you’re weaving around rocks and mazes is ridiculous.
I know to hide in closets. I know to dodge based on the sound of when he will get to you. Long distance hits aren’t the problem. Its the fact that all good billies have to do is get close to you and they will 1 hit you from close to medium range easily. And because they are arguably the most mobile / fastest killer in the game they can always get near survivors quickly.
Its at the point where i am deranking just to not deal with this garbage anymore. At higher ranks its all Billy, Nurse, Michael, Spirit, Legion... with OP addons (dont get me started on killer addons vs survivor addons).
As a survivor solo main I’m pretty fed up with the imbalances. While I’m glad for various improvements they make there are always new issues and old ones that never get fixed. Around ranks 7-10 there seems to be at least 1 dc every other game from getting downed right at the start and knowing you’ll likely be camped or tunnelled or its just feeling hopeless because its Billy or Nurse and the things already mentioned. Anyhow whatever. I expect no changes so ill just keep hoping for someone to create a better version of this game so i can quit this one.
PS - Just quit a billy game. Why? I run through a pallet as he revs up, I stun him but I’m still downed with 1 hit and pallet is intact. How does that make sense? Screw the godawful implementation of this game.
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He's okay, the only broken thing is the insta saw combo wich ngl, idk why this isn't nerfed yet.
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He can be looped I love running billies around the killer shack especially those greedy for a 1 hit on me just loop him into oblivion and turning around corners can be harder than it looks.
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Billy can be nerfed when game times are nerfed.
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You’re right but everyone will just tell you you’re a crybaby survivor main lol like literally everything you’ve said is true not to mention if your down to like one or two gens and the billy can just run back and fourth from gen to gen even if they are like across the map I’m not mad at it but the fact that chainsaws in this game have like 0 cool down is ridiculous
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I don’t think he’s OP just insanely boring to face and play as.
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@Sleephartha billy is not that op, in fact, i find him one of the easiest killers to play against
and because you say i am lying, you must be lying, because his chainsaw is actually one of the easiest things to out monouver.
your just bAd
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Let's just nerf all the killers untill the only way a survivor can be eliminated is if the player disconects because of a blackout
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That first sentence makes it sounds like you're just raging.
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Mastering Billy takes a lot of time.
Getting chainsawed from huge distance is 100% your fault.
Stop crying about the most balanced killer in the game.
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Maybe we’re just more experienced than you.
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I hate playing against Hillbillys for exactly the reason that you outlined: the BBQ & Chili snowball effect. It might not be as big of an issue in purple & red ranks? But in every other rank, if you get a Hillbilly, you know your team is going to be wiped out.
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Like it or not hillbilly is the most balanced killer in the game.
If you think he's overpowered and can't beat the Billy no matter what then maybe it's just because you're a bad Survivor
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Again we are going to repeat Billy will remain untouched because he is the most balanced killer. Remove rush gen then we talk.
Plus billy is loopable but can counter a lot of loop with the steering, them too can be countered , he is the most fun play to play with/against.
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I don’t think he’s overpowered I just think now with endgame him being able to constantly chainsaw around the map over and over it’s kinda ridiculous
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There are way worse things then Billy. Spirit with prayer beads for example.
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He talks about elements throughout the game not just end game
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Or how about a Nurse with an Ebony Mori and with Noed. There are way more op things then Billy.
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Billy and Claudette are tin the game for the same reason: Every game needs an easy-mode, and they cant make 'easy-mode' pay 2 win so they're free.
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A competent Billy is more fair than a Pro-Nurse, but hey that's just me I guess.
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Billy can be OP without addons. Of course dodgeable long range. But he gets close to you from across the map in seconds and then is insanely dangerous.
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Yes, Billy is bothersome but Billy can’t be touched until the other killers can deal with survivors as readily as he can.
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If Billy was released today, he would have a cooldown to his chainsaw like Legion and Spirit.
He would also have 110% movement speed.
I'm just saying.
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If he was released today people would cry about how OP he is, and if Nurse was released today she'd be instantly nerfed from the backlash.
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Yeah, I think if Nurse would be released today she can port through walls, have 2 blinks and 110% movement speed.
Her Blinks would have a Timer though.
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So do you want a discussion or just an echo chamber of your own biased opinion?
Since no one should bother defending him and everyone who does is a liar according to you.
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My post begins with the FACT that Billy is OP and asks if the game will ever address it. I didn't ask for opinions on whether he was.
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People don't talk about BIlly because they use Nurse as a scapegoat.
Billy is almost unstoppable at high ranks. Even at low ranks he is a terror. I don't play at high ranks anymore it's a pain in the butt, but a lot of Killers also de-rank to play with us at lower ranks so whenever he shows up I just pray its a noob who doesn't know yet how to Billy.
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Why is nobody talking about Wraith, I'm wrecking face with him lol. so easy.
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Here's the thing. Billy is a terror without any add-ons whatsoever. All he needs are perks and he is lethal. Add-ons just make him even more dangerous.
Yeah, but I can easily beat a competent Nurse, but a competent Billy is already a challenge. There are few Nurses which are really scary to fight (the Pros) luckily they're not too common. At least not in the low ranks where I hang out.
And like I said! People deflect talking about Billy by using Nurse as a scapegoat.
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Exactly Mochan. Take addons out of the picture and compare high level / mastered killers and only Billy and Nurse are near unbeatable. If you want to throw some very strong addons into the mix then some others like the spirit, michael, clown, can basically get free 4ks with the right addons. But in those situations i blame the addons for being OP. The only killers that, once i know who it is, i think “this could be a slaughter if they’re good”, are Billy and Nurse. And at least with nurse, if they are average or below its actually easier than normal. Not so with Billy.
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Freddy OP, pls nerf.
I mean he's invisible!
Yeah, that's how your Billy rant looks like.
Billy is the only balanced killer we have. Every other killer should be on his lvl.
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Something doesn't become true just because you claim it is a "fact".
Billy's insta-saw is too strong, but that's about it. Billy with no add-ons can get looped easily just like almost every other killer.
Tip #1: If you have problems looping Billy, there are several good streamers you can watch and learn from.
Tip #2: Play Billy yourself and learn how not-op he is and what his weaknesses are.
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Him having the mobility AND instadown his chainsaw offers makes for quite a stacked kit for sure.
IF they were to touch him I wish they just buffed Leatherface's chainsaw to be more threatening so he could be the instadown chainsaw man while Billy could be the mobile chainsaw man. Because Bubba needs some love 😥
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I'm not entering the dogfight about whether Billy is OP or not. But one thing I don't understand is this: most killers don't have an instadown, and they're slow (yes, 115% is quite slow). Yet this particular killer is both very fast, AND he has an instadown. Funny, since high mobility by itself is the best thing a killer can have.
Can we please take one of these from Billy and give it to Clown? Pretty please?
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honestly, once i got good as survivor and especially as killer, rank one, billy became a lot easier to beat.
unless he has the turning addons, i approach him similar to the doctor
you can even drop pallets early against him and get to every pallet and 3 gens will be done at least.
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i would say he's the most overrated killer in the game, i would bet most of my pips since emblem system was released are against billies
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Yea.... As a good survivor you should never get hit by a medium range let alone a long range saw. Its very easy to juke as long as your reactions are not slow.
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Killer wise I don't like him. As a survivor I think he is the most balanced killer we have. Strong and efficient when in skilled hands but still counterable as long as you don't engage him without a zone of obstacles. The only time I feel he becomes overly oppressive is when teammates are just feeding him everything he needs to track and kill.
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Ppl think that hes balance i dont see him balance its close to be balance but no he use chainsaw when hes super close to the survivor without any debuff and thats bad cuz some sort of powers that have the killers have something that gives them a debuff the chainsaw hitbox its just insane but i hope soon they do something i heard that they were doing something with nurse and billy and thats theyre addons maybe they also doing something to them
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Hillbilly is not OP, why?
Lockers literally hard counter him, same with Head On when he is charging, etc
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That dosent make any sense he can directly open the locker if you stop charging hes power xd
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@Tru3Lemon Yes, but if he get close to the locker throw yourself out, forcing him to push back, then get back in, he will end up using his chainsaw and you can continue the chase, you just have to learn how to go up against Hillbilly to know he is not OP whatsoever, in fact, even Pallets are his weakness as if you have good timing you can stun Hillbilly with it, several counters, Top tier, no where close to OP
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There are 15 killers and only two are viable. Fix your game
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Do you realise that youre own words dosent make any sense if the survivor force to get out the killer can directly grab you xd
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The only problem with Billy is his insta saw, I don't think he needs a cooldown if those add ons are changed. He is very loopable, especially those killers that insist on revving their chainsaws at good loops until they realise they have to m1 you.
Do I think his insta saw add-on should be tweaked? Yes, along with Nurses omega blink add-ons.
BUT there are also Survivor perks and add-ons that need looked at. At the end of the day the devs will be constantly trying to balance the game. Red ranks are full of Billys and Nurses because people at those ranks tend to want to win, hence they're at red ranks.
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@Tru3Lemon You can grab someone with your chainsaw still charging up?
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He's the MOST BALANCED killer imo! You can loop him, how is that overpowered?????????
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Because when you let a survivor get to a pallet it's over for you.
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Billy is not OP. He is a top tier killer. All killers should be in the category of Billy and Spirit just slightly under Nurse.
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