Pigs Addons needs to be reworked
Pig has some bugs going on with two addons and two that have the wrong name. She could also use some nice buffs to make her somewhat viable.
The two bugged addons are:
Bag of Gears
Crate of Gears
These two both add the time it takes to search a Box as well as reduce the time it takes to put on a RBT. ATM all they do is make putting on the RBT take longer. The main part of the addons doesn't even work.
The two swapped addons are:
Jigsaw's Sketch
Jigsaw's Annotated Plan
If you look at the description for both addons they say:
A disturbing, yet brilliant, Trap design laid down on paper and ANNOTATED by Jigsaw.
A disturbing, yet brilliant, Trap design SKETCHED in detail on a sheet of paper.
It says sketched in the description for Annotated Plan and annotated in Sketched Plan. Small issue but is a simple fix.
Lastly are just some small buffs she should get:
Rules Set No.2 should be built into her kit, makes no sense this is an Ultra Rare
Make Box Auras not appear right away while survivors have the RBT on. Make them appear when the RBT is 50%.
Remove the Insidious sound when she lunges but keeps the yell.
Amanda's Letter is too punishing since it only leaves you with one trap and two boxes
Replace the Default skill checks on the boxes for ones like the DS and Madness ones. Don't grant additional progress as well.
There also should be a very rare addon that gives you 3 traps, 2 traps for Rare, like the one trap for Uncommon
Make RBT pop on hatch. Lore wise, the survivor isn't playing by the rules. If they don't play by the rules they die. Find a box and take it off
Reasons:
RBTs are way to easy to get off because survivors can see where they are. They have so much leeway as well with the traps stopping during a chase, hooked and slugged. Making it a bit harder to find them can help a bit.
The Insidious sound shouldn't be there. It's so easy to hear it and just SB away. She is hard counted by a single perk because Survivors get a huge notice when she's lunging. This is just like the Myers EW1 sound change. It really doesn't need to be there but the yell is fine.
The boxes shouldn't grant extra progression. Make them like how DS and Madness ones are where they are just full white and a tad bit smaller than normal skill checks.
Hatch should pop RBT. The whole point of Jigsaw's games is playing by the rules. The hatch is legit breaking the rules. I would be fine if once the hatched spawned, there is one survivor left and the exit gates WEREN'T powered that the Pig could no longer see the Auras of boxes so you can't just camp them.
These obviously aren't going to make her top tier but will help a little just like how Hag and Trapper are getting QoL buffs. Her biggest problem will still be how brain dead Sprint Burst is. If SB gets a nerf, not to CD, but on its activation requirements, the Pig will be a top tier Killer
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@Someissues
I like most of your balance ideas, it's really interesting and can improve the Pig. However I dislike a few of your ideas and I'll directly point them out
I agree on having Rules Set No. 2 already in her kit because technically the game has not started and can prevent survivors from getting the trap too early. However it should reveal allall of the Jigsaw boxes the moment that their RBT is active, not when it's at 50%. If RBT showed the Jigsaw boxes at 50%, you'd get a 4 man every game if you used Tampered Timer + Jigsaw's Annotated Plan as the survivors would only see the Jigsaw boxes when their RBT is at 1 minute. That's not a lot of time to search 5 boxes in unless you get extremely lucky and get the correct box which the first box is a 20% chance if there's 5 Jigsaw boxes.Someissues said:Rules Set No.2 should be built into her kit, makes no sense this is an Ultra Rare
Make Box Auras not appear right away while survivors have the RBT on. Make them appear when the RBT is 50%.
I agree, the insidious sound gives you away which ruins the point of the Pig's crouch ability. Her yell is okay and it's not like a survivor won't have enough time to use their Sprint Burst anyways.Someissues said:Remove the Insidious sound when she lunges but keeps the yell.
Amanda's Letter is too punishing since it only leaves you with one trap and two boxes
Replace the Default skill checks on the boxes for ones like the DS and Madness ones. Don't grant additional progress as well.
There also should be a very rare addon that gives you 3 traps, 2 traps for Rare, like the one trap for Uncommon
Amanda's letter should increase the time to charge your ambush but it will put survivors into dying state upon a successful hit. Thoughts?
The skill checks in the Jigsaw boxes should be left alone because lower ranked survivors will struggle against her even more which I think we want the game to be forgiving for newer players.
Yes, the developers stated they wanted every killer have a set amount of commons, uncommon, rare, very rare, and ultra rare. If the Pig needs more addons and the developers plan on adding more then your idea will likely be added. Overall great brainstorming and keep up the good work
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@Nickenzie said:
I agree on having Rules Set No. 2 already in her kit because technically the game has not started and can prevent survivors from getting the trap too early. However it should reveal allall of the Jigsaw boxes the moment that their RBT is active, not when it's at 50%. If RBT showed the Jigsaw boxes at 50%, you'd get a 4 man every game if you used Tampered Timer + Jigsaw's Annotated Plan as the survivors would only see the Jigsaw boxes when their RBT is at 1 minute. That's not a lot of time to search 5 boxes in unless you get extremely lucky and get the correct box which the first box is a 20% chance if there's 5 Jigsaw boxes.Ye that sounds a bit overkill your suggestion is better, really hope the Devs will buff the Pig at some point, though we all know she's not the worst right now. Leatherface might become the worst after the buffs
I agree, the insidious sound gives you away which ruins the point of the Pig's crouch ability. Her yell is okay and it's not like a survivor won't have enough time to use their Sprint Burst anyways.
Amanda's letter should increase the time to charge your ambush but it will put survivors into dying state upon a successful hit. Thoughts?
The skill checks in the Jigsaw boxes should be left alone because lower ranked survivors will struggle against her even more which I think we want the game to be forgiving for newer players.
Yes, the developers stated they wanted every killer have a set amount of commons, uncommon, rare, very rare, and ultra rare. If the Pig needs more addons and the developers plan on adding more then your idea will likely be added. Overall great brainstorming and keep up the good workYea the skill checks might be bad for lower rank so my bad on that. Your ideas are good too, hopefully, this helps the devs somewhat. and yeh with the addons I think they are very likely to add more traps addons
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Pig does need love.. especially the ambush... may be the roar is okay. But she's supposed to be stealthy so the roar should come after... remove the insidious sound the devs admitted that it's a bug anyways so why haven't they removed it.. I feel they should do a ptb add a quieter sound like while the ambush is charging have some grass ruffle or when shes on stone have them move under her... this way the ambush is more viable it gets the survivors thinking more about whether Amanda is close or not...
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Oh, Insidious is a bug? Good to know! I agree that the roar is okay and I think it should stay because it's a good nod to the movies, but I think it should be kiiinda delayed. A bit more. Just so it warns the Survivor as I'm about to hit them, not as I'm getting up. I have the impression that it is somewhat delayed but it's not like it's even remotely as useful as a Blink, as it wouldn't be even if the roar was entirely gone.
Also yea, Rules Set2 should be built in. Give her a Ultra Rare that halves the time or makes them impossible to see until it's 50% completed then.
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