The second iteration of 2v8 is now LIVE - find out more information here: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/480-2v8-developer-update

Our Fun Isnt A Concern

2ยป

Comments

  • MystiKasT
    MystiKasT Member Posts: 289

    I've played pretty evenly close to a 50/50 split in my 400 hours. I've never had a killer tell me to kill myself (irl). Or that he hopes I get cancer. Or that he hopes I die in a car crash. If I get anything other than GG, its usually 'that was crazy'. I've never even had a killer gg ez.

    I have had, on numerous occasions, survivors tell me to kill myself, that they hope I die of cancer or in a car crash, or that I die in a fire. I've had well over 100+ gg ez's from survivors.

    Stop claiming both sides are toxic; they aren't.

  • Pike_Trickfoot
    Pike_Trickfoot Member Posts: 437

    Look up 'learned helplessness'. Killers are conditioned to be this way and it's unhealthy and quite disgusting.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    Most killers won't be toxic because they are by themselves people tend to be more toxic to others in groups. I have seen my fair share of toxic killers you must just be lucky or something. Both sides are toxic you won't see as many toxic killers also due to a 4:1 ratio. It also depends on your rank I have killers that are wayyy more toxic around purple or red ranks. Actually some of my games have been ruined by getting targeted by a few of these toxic killers since they are in red ranks. I am not saying survivors are any less toxic because I have the same experiences as killer as I am a 50/50 player as well. Both sides are toxic.

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047

    I have noticed this honestly the more I play killer. I have had a few killers like that, but it's not even comparable to the amount from survs honestly.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    I love how you didn't read my comment closely enough to realize i was arguing that surv are the toxic ones lmao

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    And another that didn't read my comment closely enough to put two and two together to figure out I'm arguing on the killer side

  • fluffymareep
    fluffymareep Member Posts: 634

    Is that why MoM was nerfed? 'Cause it was affecting survivor's fun?

  • Pike_Trickfoot
    Pike_Trickfoot Member Posts: 437

    Someone who didn't look up learned helplessness and understand that I was arguing for Killer side as well.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143
  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    No because toxic SWF was abusing it with the combination of 2 other second chance perks and an exhaustion perk

  • fluffymareep
    fluffymareep Member Posts: 634

    Because it was ruining the game for killers. o: Exhaustion perks were changed to give killers a better time. Pallets have been changed and lessened to give killers a better time. EGC was introduced for killers.

    But somehow the devs don't care? I know it's a meme to hate on them, but I think some people are too hard or simplify the situation too much. I'll say it's fair to say some survivors don't care about the killers fun, but if it makes killers feel any better, they also don't care about their "randoms" fun. I don't think it's productive to just complain all the time without acknowledging the good, too.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    Any choice they make in this game is a catch 22 where the other side will complain about the change.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    All the changes you mentioned were made because why? Right survivors were abusing something

  • fluffymareep
    fluffymareep Member Posts: 634

    I'm just saying that they do consider killer's fun. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

  • fluffymareep
    fluffymareep Member Posts: 634

    Yeah, people will complain over anything, no matter if they get multiple buffs/beneficial changes in a row.

  • MystiKasT
    MystiKasT Member Posts: 289

    EGC was created to end hatch stand offs, not to help killers.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    If you want someone to know you've responded to their post, you should @ them as well, otherwise you're basically speaking into a wall. @TrueKn1ghtmar3

  • FeelsVeryBadMan
    FeelsVeryBadMan Member Posts: 197

    It's not like Survivors have to deal with OP addons / perks or anything, right? Killers are obviously fine the way they are.... yeah no.

    Like, if you genuinely think that Survivors have it super easy and it's always super fun you are delusional. Survivor gameplay can be just as frusturating as Killer gameplay.

    I play mostly Survivor, I never abuse infinites, I never abused MoM before its nerf and I'm never toxic to the Killer. Guess what, I still get camped. I still get mori'd. I still get tunneled. I still get BM'd. I still get ######### on.

    That legit makes me want to equip DS and instaheals every game to punish this type of Killers. But I'm not a crybaby to hop on forums and cry about it. I move onto the next game and try to be fair and fun again and I don't want to rely on DS or instaheals.

    Looping is also not valid here. Stop with the "Try and break line of sight" stuff. It doesn't work. Survivors loop because hiding is extremely unsafe and the only time breaking line of sight becomes good is when Survivors use Dance With Me along with Lithe. Most jungle gyms have walls and LoS blockers, use them. Mindgame, moonwalk, red light management, double-backing etc. @MystiKasT

  • AStupidMonkeyy
    AStupidMonkeyy Member Posts: 718

    @FeelsVeryBadMan You play the way you want, killers will play the way they want. You don't like them tunneling, camping, mori'ng and such yet they are the weak role. The sooner they get rid of 1 person, the tide changes in their favor. Just like if you don't do any of that and you 2 hook everyone, you lose. You will NEVER kill anyone at red rank.

    I play as all killers and I main Bill and Nea. I don't use DS and all that crap. I play to break a killers ankles. I'm not gonna blow smoke up peoples' asses. When I play survivor, I know I'm gonna get camped after because I know I'm good at survivor but that's the fun of it.

    I love being chased and being the chaser. I even chase after Pig when she's crouched and crouch walk behind her until she turns around from my breathing XD If you don't like how someone else plays, get over it. It's a game. No one has to listen to made up rules from either side. If I want to stare into your beautiful eyes as the Entity slowly kills you.. I'm gonna do it. If the same is happening to me after looping a killer for 3 gens, I deserve it.

    He/she knows he/she lost already. I ruined his/her fun so he/she is returning the favor. You can't say gen rush doesn't hurt the killers' feelings because he's a killer and he camps. The amount of 0% proximity camp I got but still get harassed after the game, being called a camper and tunneler is just about every other game. No one likes to lose. DBD is just a game. Get over it. Move on. Sometimes, ######### happens. Don't take it so personal.

  • Jesp
    Jesp Member Posts: 192

    If you genuinely feel that way just stop playing, that sort of victim complex isn't something you're supposed to get from playing a god damn video game.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790


    A good time stalking and murdering good people by impaling them on hooks to die slowly and painfully. Ironic part aside, the killer is the adversarial role, because making an AI would be too complicated and not have a fraction of the unpredictability a human player has, thus we have killers. You're the bad guy trying to eliminate the other players thus ending their 'fun'. Don't expect much love for it.

    A majority of killers don't care about survivors fun either, so it goes both ways. Why it is good for people to not just main one side or the other. Play the other side and only the other side for a good month, or at least a couple weeks and see how the other half lives.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    I just had to share this quote from a killer in another thread which sums it up nicely:

    'I'm here to destroy survivors, not to make sure they have fun and as many escape opportunities as posible. You can take your pip system and... keep it for yourselves.'

  • prayer_survivor
    prayer_survivor Member Posts: 626

    A bad person will play as killer always, he need it.

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    Well we can't expect other players to care about whether we have fun or not. That's a different story for the devs however.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    Id watch out tellin people not to play part of the game is a bannable offense according to the mods

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    He's telling people to try and play the other side as well while I wouldn't have mentioned only play the other side as it is better to play both I doubt he would get banned for that.

  • Victory
    Victory Member Posts: 166

    But I have? I constantly get told to kill myself for bringing a toolbox, or ds, or unbreakable or bt, etc etc. Just because you have baby 400 hours doesn't mean people with 3-5k+ haven't, both sides are insanley toxic and you are by far probably the most toxic killer in existence for defending killers toxicity. Again, quit dehumanizing people to spread your toxicity.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3
    TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 1,143

    Hmm maybe your platform is just toxic, or maybe they are survs playing killer cause I've never had that problem and I've been playing for about that long as well (also my surv main is claudette and meg so either I'm run and hide or you will spend a while trying to run me down.) but I'm on PS4 where nearly every survivor is so toxic killers have to camp and tunnel ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’