The swf/general ranking problem
I'm not the best killer, i know, but a rank 2 survivor? I'M ONLY RANK 13. I'M NOT EXPECTING AN EASY WIN, BUT A 7 NINUTE GAME AGAINST A RANK 2?!?
Not to mention everybody was running sprint burst, self-care, borrowed time and DS except the rank two who ran dead hard instead of burst and 1 person who didn't run borrowed.
Tried to switch killers, i thought maybe i was just having a rough game but no
Same exact thing just with a rank 6, literally the game after tried one more time to find a decent game
Two rank 8's and one kill because one of the claudettes ran straight into me, this time i knew it was my own fault because i was chasing a david i kept pallete pulling, and when i tried mowing a pallete with my chainsaw i went into tantrum mode somehow? Even though i hit the pallete.
But yeah, besides the fact that i'm a bad killer, as a rank 13 i shouldn't be facing 2, 6's, or even 8's. What's the point of a ranking system if it's just for show?
I play PS4 gamertag is as shows on the screen
Comments
-
Also, i just made my forums account earlier today0
-
A few QoL/Balance changes I'd like to see, coming from someone who only used to play Survivor with a group:
- Survivors in a SWF group do not rank up. They can only rank down.
- Survivors in a SWF group will only face a Killer whose rank is higher than the highest ranked Survivor in the group, no matter the wait time. Obviously, if the highest ranked Survivor is rank 1, then they'll only face rank 1 Killers; again, no matter the wait time.
- Survivors in a SWF group receive penalties to movement and action speed proportionate to the number of Survivors in the group.
2 -
Do you really want this? It'll only make things harder for lower ranked killers.Orion said:A few QoL/Balance changes I'd like to see, coming from someone who only used to play Survivor with a group:
- Survivors in a SWF group do not rank up. They can only rank down.
- Survivors in a SWF group receive penalties to movement and action speed proportionate to the number of Survivors in the group.
Punishing everyone for playing with friends is a good way to lose players.2 -
@Visionmaker said:
Orion said:A few QoL/Balance changes I'd like to see, coming from someone who only used to play Survivor with a group:
- Survivors in a SWF group do not rank up. They can only rank down.
Survivors in a SWF group receive penalties to movement and action speed proportionate to the number of Survivors in the group.
Do you really want this? It'll only make things harder for lower ranked killers.
Punishing everyone for playing with friends is a good way to lose players.
How will it make things harder for lower ranked Killers? SWF groups already purposefully derank to troll them.
0 -
Orion said:
@Visionmaker said:
Orion said:A few QoL/Balance changes I'd like to see, coming from someone who only used to play Survivor with a group:
- Survivors in a SWF group do not rank up. They can only rank down.
Survivors in a SWF group receive penalties to movement and action speed proportionate to the number of Survivors in the group.
Do you really want this? It'll only make things harder for lower ranked killers.
Punishing everyone for playing with friends is a good way to lose players.
How will it make things harder for lower ranked Killers? SWF groups already purposefully derank to troll them.
So? Then you're helping them depip to troll new Rank 20s permanently.On top of that, you'd slowly bring high ranking SWFs down to ranks where they shouldn't be. This goes against the purpose of the Ranking system, and the same issue will happen to the OP without them even knowing.2 -
@Visionmaker said:
Orion said:@Visionmaker said:
Orion said:
A few QoL/Balance changes I'd like to see, coming from someone who only used to play Survivor with a group:
- Survivors in a SWF group do not rank up. They can only rank down.
Survivors in a SWF group receive penalties to movement and action speed proportionate to the number of Survivors in the group.
Do you really want this? It'll only make things harder for lower ranked killers.
Punishing everyone for playing with friends is a good way to lose players.
How will it make things harder for lower ranked Killers? SWF groups already purposefully derank to troll them.
So? Then you're helping them depip to troll new Rank 20s permanently.
On top of that, you'd slowly bring high ranking SWFs down to ranks where they shouldn't be. This goes against the purpose of the Ranking system, and the same issue will happen to the OP without them even knowing.
The point is to stop boosting, but point taken. Anyway, what do you think of the rest?
0 -
@Orion said:
The point is to stop boosting, but point taken. Anyway, what do you think of the rest?I don't like the action speed or gen time handicap for SWF. I prefer the method of buffing solo survivors to SWF, then balancing the game after that. But flat out discouraging friends from playing with each other will kill the game.
I kinda see the merits of the second suggestion, facing killers equal to or better than the highest rank. My only concern is that it makes it hard for higher ranked players from playing with friends they've introduced to the game. I dunno, it's tough since it looks like even the low ranked survivors are sandbagging (in OP's picture.)
0 -
Honestly they need to fix it somehow cause i just got on today and yet again another rank 20
-
This while SWF problem really feels like a simple fix with minimal effort for the devs. Just flag SWF groups so killers have a choice whether to play them or leave the lobby and give a 25% BP bonus per SWF player in the match so the killer is incentivized to play them.0
-
As for ranks, just remove the concept of de-pip, or limit it to a single rank. e.g. Once you hit rank 10 you can never de-rank higher than 11.0
-
@Orion said:
How will it make things harder for lower ranked Killers? SWF groups already purposefully derank to troll them.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” – Christopher Hitchens.
I always laugh when you post made up bs like this to make your argument look better when you know it's made up bs. Where do you get the evidence to back up your claim that swf groups already derank to troll killers?
0 -
Honestly i agree with your reasoning, but it's a Baseline 'Either-or' fallacy. Either there's no evidence and it's false, or there is evidence and it's true. Having evidence doesn't automatically make something true, not having evidence doesn't necessarily make something false.powerbats said:“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” – Christopher Hitchens.
I always laugh when you post made up bs like this to make your argument look better when you know it's made up bs. Where do you get the evidence to back up your claim that swf groups already derank to troll killers?
"There are no crumbs, therefore, never was the cookie." Type deal, yes?
Of course this is also not true, considering the fact that while a cookie has crumbs, there's no guarantee any crumbs were left, and inversely, more than just the cookie crumbles.
So while, yes he may not have evidence saying clearly that SWF groups depip to troll, the coinverse is also true, as there's no proof they're not depipping. Also that's not to say that all SWF groups depip either, certainly some do, some don't. You can't tell me you've met every single survivor group on every edition of dead by daylight, unless you have?1
