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Post freddy rework

Maybe a dev can help me out here. But can someone share with me why old freddy was pretty bad? Or just underwhelming to play. Maybe some stats? Also, on a dev stream there was a dev that did the "I think about freddy" bit talking about how freddy wasn't viable and needed buffs. Does anyone know where I can find him saying that on youtube, I've been looking for it. Thank you!

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Comments

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857

    There's a disconnect between old freddy players and people who just survive against freddy, so was looking to see if there was maybe old stats or something that showed it

  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    Old Freddy was not bad, despite what many players and some devs even claim. A dev video won't solve that. It's been proven time and time again that many devs aren't very good players, average to moderately good at best.

    Most people claiming that Freddy was bad never got around to properly play him, master his ability and learn to work around his weaknesses. In the right hands, old Freddy had the strongest stall in the game and paired with the Aura-reading on Survivors, he was a literal Nightmare for those he versed.

  • snowflake102
    snowflake102 Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2019

    The reason old freddy was bad was because if you hook some one and the other one is not in the dream world you can't hit them until there in the dream world.



    But the new freddy is much much better he can teleport to gens, survivors fall asleep passively, you can hit them anytime. Also he has new abilitys.


    And he's more fun to play as and to play against :D



    Also the old freddy is good as dead:)



    Long live the new freddy:D

    Also the rework was highly requested by both sides of the community:D

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  • snowflake102
    snowflake102 Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2019

    The old freddy was bad he was weak if you hook someone and another survivor is not in the dream world you can't hit him so he gets a free save.

    Also it was highly requested for a rework:D doc you might want to watch the past streams.

    Also watch monto,panda they like the new freddy:) agian it was highly requested for a rework:)

    Old freddy is as good as dead. rip old freddy:(



    Long live the new freddy:)

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  • snowflake102
    snowflake102 Member Posts: 2,188
    edited July 2019

    Also I played old freddy before he was weak. Now he's my 3rd main to play as:D since the rework.

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  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230
    edited July 2019

    I'm sorry you couldn't figure out how old Freddy worked properly. I'm not denying that many people wished for a rework, even popular streamers, but there are several old Freddy mains, including me, who would have preferred to keep him, at least as an optional way to play him, like a second power.

    Keep in mind that streamers are not special people. Their opinion isn't automatically true or their skill isn't automatically better than that of others.

    I should watch old streams? Well, you should too, there are streams of Freddy mains out there that mastered him and showed his true potential.

    Freddy was my main for the past 1.5 years. I spent countless hours mastering him, you obviously did not or you wouldn't insist on him being so bad.

    OP noticed a disconnect between old Freddy mains and the majority of the community, you obviously did not. I will let OP form their own opinion. There are more than enough videos out there of good "Old Freddy" mains for that.

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  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited July 2019

    Old Freddy was bad because of 3 things.

    1 - He had no chase tool. Sure you could do some fancy stuff with the dream transition but other than that, playing Freddy didn't felt powerful at all. However, while breaking off from chases was incredibly beneficial, specifically for him, at the time, you didn't feel strong for doing it. Put him against good survivors, his many little flaws shine through his few massive benefits.

    2 - Limited counter-play. There was no variation in how survivors could counter Freddy meaning every match was practically the same against them. If he found you loop, don't try to stealth because of his inbuilt aura reading when you're asleep and invisibility while you are awake. It made him predictable at best, boring at his worse.

    3 - Limited vision of the license. You could do so much more for Freddy since his entire gimmick is to be a god-like being in the dream world. This rework brings him more true to his movie counter-part (The blood puddles, generators spewing blood, etc.)

    I'm one of the old Freddy mains. I liked him before when he was weak. But this rework... This rework is amazing and surpassed every expectation I had.

  • snowflake102
    snowflake102 Member Posts: 2,188

    Ik it would be cool if they did added a option to play the old freddy

  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    The only reason old Freddy was "weak" was because of his dependance on good or even moderate rng.

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857

    I agree freddy was weak, but I wanted to have opinion of others. Freddy is my main and aware survivors simply didn't fall for certain things. Just because I made it to rank 1 with freddy doesn't mean he's viable, as every other killer can do what freddy does and more in my opinion. Freddy had a,double warning, the lullaby and the sleep cycle to reach a safe place as well.

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857

    Word, freddy would get looped to death, lower rank survivors would try to hide. More competitive survivors didn't care, would loop you and an ally would get a free save with borrowed time, and people could block noed if he had it. There was too much counterplay against freddy.