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How good is ghostface cause I just bought him?
How good is good ghostface cause I just bought him today? AND I'm saving up on shards to get plague:)
Is he weak as some players say he is or is he mid tier killer?
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Personally I think he's weak, being as how he is still easily popped out of his power. I'd say he's lowish mid tier.
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I give him high mid tier at max, weaker than Myers though. :)
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Ok what about his perks are they any good?
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At high ranks? At least on Xbox, he's low tier. Basically no power if the Survivor's have comms. At lower ranks? He's really good.
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Ok that's good to know at least he's at high mid tier
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His only good perk is Thrilling Tremors. I'm All Ears is meh, and Furtive Chase is just #########. Only good thing about it is the abillity to change obsessions.
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Ok
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Furtive chase is situational, helps you in chases though. Thrilling Tremors is really good, and I'm all ears is only good with killers like Nurse.
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I'd say he is high-mid tier, about equal to Myers. They are actually very similar, but what separates them is that Myers has less utility and more variety, where GF is the opposite with more utility and less variety.
You have to learn to deal with the break out mechanic, but once you get a good idea of what you can and can't do you will figure out how good he really is. People say he is weak but that's because they try to over-use either the stealth or stalk abilities and don't mix it up enough. He's actually really good once you figure it out, just takes experience and practice.
Just remember that peaking stalks faster than normal stalking. Like a lot faster, even without the add-ons. And you want to utilize cover to break LOS (think more like a standard FPS), so what I find is that it's best to walk around normally and only use crouch to duck behind cover to prevent break out or just for extra stealth. You don't want to be crouch walking around the whole time, you are too slow. Also remember that in stealth you still make noises so if you are super close to a survivor (eg. on the other side of a wall) chances are they will hear you if there's not a running generator nearby or something to drown out the sound.
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I dont even use his stalk only the remove TR to get a surprise hit in
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Be prepared to learn the hard way, don’t be discouraged by being broken out easy the first few times you play. He’s a pretty good killer and I honestly don’t understand why people say one way or the other that Myers is better than ghostface or vice versa, I think they’re pretty even, they just have different uses. Ghostface does better in 1 v 1 situations or 1 v 2 if you get really good with marking, where as Myers is better at crowd control and pressuring an area. So definitely upper mid tier, level with Myers to me. (I main them both now and the one better than the other mentality is kinda...ugh, I think same tier but different applications/strengths)
Lean as much as you can, it protects you from being broken out and lets you stalk crazy fast, get used to avoiding the directional reveals (arrows) by crouching behind taller LoS blockers, short ones will do no good and try to avoid early because the reveal can be a little bugged.
If there are SWF addicted to breaking your shroud, you can use your shroud for chases and stalk as a secondary thing, he’s still decent even without stalking sometimes but often it’s better to stalk them, drop the chase, find a new target and down the first guy later. REMEMBER THAT STABBING OF ANY KIND DESTROYS STALK PROGRESS I.e. if you stalk to 99% then stab them normally you WILL lose all that progress so be careful and mindful of your mark progress and weigh up if you can A. Finish the stalk when your power returns or B. Down them normally in a reasonable time.
Best addons are definitely cooldown (chewed pen, Olsen’s address book), this allows you to use your stealth to not only mark but sneak up on people healing or to shorten a loop because people panic when they can’t see or hear you and make mistakes much more in my experience using it mid chase. You’ll find other favourite addons by experimenting, some like the lenses, I like crouching addons, find what works for you.
In terms of build discordance is nice for multiple marks/easy stalking especially early game (paired with PGTW lets you know which gens likely need regressing) Nurses is also a solid choice as you can enter stealth and sneak up on groups healing.
In any case he struggles against SWF squads a little harder than some killers but overall a fun killer and very rewarding when you chain multiple marks and decimate a team. Just takes a bit of practice and tough matches first.
Turned into an essay but felt my opinion has changed a lot over the course of actually getting better playing him, still buggy with reveals and killer instinct but far, far from weak when played well (coordinated hit squads just make it a bit tougher)
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I've been playing as him trying to rank up and get all the perks I want for him for the past 3 weeks, and I can tell you that in my experience (especially being a Myers main), that Ghostface is actually pretty good, not as good as Myers, but he's certainly not weak. You'll get used to being broken out of your power, but the upside is you get an indicator of where the spotter was, so it's no big deal really. I never bother squatting down or leaning around corners as I find it a bit too situational, and frankly unnecessary, especially since you have zero terror radius and no red stain while standing stalk. His perks are honestly not very good, so I didn't even bother using them, instead making my own unique Scream film inspired build.
Ultimately, I'd say he is pretty good, and you can definitely get 4 kills from time to time, and his devil outfit is cool, mainly because it's the closest to the Scream film robe when worn with the white mask and default Buck 120 knife. Plus, considering the slightly lower dlc price, it's not a bad buy in my book. I will say this though, a large amount of your enjoyment will depend on how much a fan you are of the Scream films and the Ghostface character in general. For me, I've always been a huge fan, so I had to have it.
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He's alright
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Ok thanks :) can't wait to try him out:D
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Thrilling Tremors is actually really good, basically meta level. Top 10 I'd say. It's like a half breed between BBQ and Ruin, and can help you apply map pressure really well. It's especially effective when combined with Pop.
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He's a perfectly fine killer. Using his power for mind games is really nice. Solid killer imo
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He is a really fun killer to play as, stalking and revealing may be a bit inconsistent at times tho, so i would recommend practicing with him during rank reset.
As for his perks, here is what i have to say about them
Im all ears: Really useful perk overall, a bit underrated IMO, killers like nurse and especially piggy really benefit from it.
Thrilling tremors: Good perk with a lot of wasted potential, could have a shorter recovery time or longer duration but i personally think its great despite that, almost every killer can benefit from it, its a must on billy and nurse
Furtive chase: Dumb perk that can be extremely fun when combined with other perks, I recommend using it alongside rancor or remember me.
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He is in the middle really. Very easy to loop him, but his power helps from time to time. He is also small and isn't slower, both very good characteristics.
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I'm All Ears is actually rather nice on Huntress.
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He's not.
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Around Myers power level, a tad lower.
His problem is how finnicky his power is, that's why I don't play him.
Sometimes he can't be revealed at all, sometimes you're hiding and you get revealed.
I don't like him because he's inconsistent, but he ain't weak. Not when compared to most killers at least.
High mid along with Freddy, Myers and Plague imo. Def weaker than Freddy, around the same as the rest.
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It's stupid they got rid of the splinters for killers. Now you can't know if you like the killer or not, so you waste money on it while you don't like it.
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He is incredible when he stalks while being hidden, a few meters from his prey. As a survivor I have memorable memories of well-deserved punishment.
Probably not easy to master, but can be very violent and very scary.
Same lineage as Myers, I enjoy playing against these killers. He is more "all or nothing" than Myers.
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Long story short: Loser Face™ is meme tier. His power is completely in the survivors' hands, and everything he can do, Myers can do it a million times better. He's almost as bad as the Legion.
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He is mid tier. He has a skill cap and can do work, but he is really weak against SWF teams, especially the ones with Object of Obsession, that perk makes Ghost Face completely useless. Also, his cooldown is really long, playing Ghost Face without cooldown add-ons is pretty painful, so I suggest to use these, you really need them. I don't think he is better than Myers, I actually don't think he is better even than Pig and Pig was nerfed 2 times already, so that says everything.
About his perks : Thrilling Tremors is decent, especially on killers like Freddy or Prayer Beads Spirit. I'm All Ears is only really worth using on Nurse and maybe Spirit and Huntress as well. And Furtive Chase is completely garbage.
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Not as good as Myers but you can play him like a better Wraith or just hit people into exposed, he has little to no loop potential.
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Cool:D
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He's the second best M1 Killer in the game. Don't listen to anyone who says he's weak; anyone who thinks he can't be stealthy just haven't learned that his sneaking actually has a skill cap. Not only does he have the ability to quickly put you on a 1-hit down, but he's also the best ambush Killer in the entire game and his lack of a red stain is an amazing mindgame tool—hell, even when he's busted out of his stealth, his crouch has very useful mindgame utility.
Anyone who says he's better than Myers is utterly kidding themselves. Myers has an okay snowball and faster vaults. Faceghost has mindgames, faster stalking, 115% speed at the start of the match, better consistency, a lean button, and a crouch button. He's better than Myers in almost every aspect.
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I haven’t played him yet, but he does look fun to play, I do however plan on playing him when he comes out on mobile.
He looks and seems like any normal killer, if you manage to get a stalk off you won’t end up getting looped. Might be my second main when I come back to this dumpster fire of a game.
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GhostFace is a mid tier killer. He's not insanely good, but not bad. You should do fine with him if you use his power at the correct times and use it in chases
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"Anyone who says he's better than Myers is utterly kidding themselves".
I think you shot yourself in the foot in that sentence, LOL.
Also, I saw more people running Object of Obsession nowadays. Just yesterday I saw 3 solo survivors running OoO against a poor Wraith. Ghost Face doesn't make a exception, he gets cucked pretty hard by that perk.
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His trash.
Loop-able. No pressure. His power is controlled by survivors.
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Object is a sleeper meta Perk that cucks every single Killer in the game. Your point?
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It doesn't cuck Nurse kr Spirit. And other killers don't have their entire power destroyed by this perk, like Ghost Face.
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"It doesn't cuck Nurse or Spirit."
Nurse is a given, and it cucks Spirit because you can see when she's phasing, but she can't see you while phasing, so if you think she's phasing towards you, just walk to another location.
"And other killers don't have their entire power destroyed by this perk, like Ghost Face."
You can see exactly what the Killer is doing and where they're doing it at practically all times, giving you more awareness and knowledge of the Killer's plans than any other mechanic in the entire game. Killers don't have their powers destroyed by Object; the Killers themselves are destroyed. Not having a stealth power doesn't change that in any way.
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I think hes great. Super fun too.
I'd say play him without asking for the heavily biased community (for either side) and see how you like him without a certain expectation though, but it seems a little late for that hah.
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You can't see where she's phasing, so you can just assume, never be sure. Also, you already have the phasing sound, so you don't need Object to know when she's phasing towards you. Object only cucks Anal Beads, but that is fair, because Anal Beads are already a stupid add-on, but Spirit can deal with it otherwise.
I already know how strong Object is against all killers not Nurse or Spirit. My point is : is stronger against stealth killers like Ghost Face than against other M1 killers.
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he's definitely fun to play, i got him with the intent to main him, but. you get stuck around rank 8-10. he just doesn't have the character ability to make it to high tier.. with that being said.. he is still very fun to mind game loopers with . I can't tell you how many loopers I've gotten to double back to me just by triggering his ability and waiting. Bamboozle is a great perk for him as I've noticed if you decide to run him a bit.
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I never even bothered purchasing him. His learning curve is too high for what meager rewards you get from mastering his playstyle. Honestly, I'd much rather play as Wraith who has semi map control.
Terrible teachable perks. Gets destroyed by SWF on comms. His power's effectiveness is highly influenced by the map and just doesn't do enough to make him overcome the sort of generator rushing you see in Red Ranks unless you play near perfectly.
Being left without any power aside from crouching (something that's almost useless, except in rare instances where you can mindgame behind an obstacle around a short loop) for 30 seconds means that if you get revealed too much, you are just objectively better off playing Legion or Plague.
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Ghost Face is better than Legion, yes. Only if he doesn't get revealed too much. If Ghost Face makes too many mistakes, or gets revealed too much, then Legion or Plague becomes the better pick.
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OOO definitely does not hurt Spirit. It helps her. A LOT.
I had a Spirit daily shortly after GF came out, and I had been avoiding player her because I wanted to play GF. I got a game where a Meg was using OOO. I found her and downed her in the first 20 seconds of the game. The moment she looked at me, and I saw she was close enough, I just phase walked to where I saw the aura and found her. She was totally and utterly #########. OOO is really a bane against Spirit because she can move around without you being able to see her, and all she needs is to know your location for a moment to come get you.
OOO against any other killer is really strong though. Against stealth killers it's borderline broken.
OOO needs a rework IMO. The devs said they are looking into how aura perks work on stealth abilities and I think that's a bad move. Aura perks versus stealth is not the problem, OOO is the problem. Fix OOO and people will stop complaining about stealth killer auras.
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Trash tier like Wraith but without a speed boost
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What did you say about Wraith boi?!? >:(
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"You can't see where she's phasing, so you can just assume, never be sure. Also, you already have the phasing sound, so you don't need Object to know when she's phasing towards you"
Yeah, believe it or not, OoO's effective maximum range of 72 meters extends a lot further out than Spirit's phasing sound and gives you a warning much farther in advance.
" My point is : is stronger against stealth killers like Ghost Face than against other M1 killers"
And my point is: Given how ridiculously strong Object is at base, that's not a Faceghost problem; that's an Object problem.
I guess walking away when Spirit starts to phase or just looking away when she gets too close is too hard for that Survivor?
Oh, who am I kidding, of course it is; this is a Meg we're talking about.
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He is middle of the pack.
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LOL yea she DC'd before I got her to a hook, I think she was expecting GF.
But it wouldn't have helped her. I would have still known she was in the area and as a Spirit she has no way to be sure where I will pop up. I have insanely good tracking skills, and she was close (something like 30m). I doubt even a really good survivor could have avoided me.
Point is OOO hurts Spirit way less than normal killers because she can move around without OOO showing her position. If you are too close and reveal yourself, and she sees you, against a good Spirit that's like asking to die. All I need to know is about where you are, once I'm in phase walk I can do the rest. If you stay and hide I will probably find you. If you run I will almost definitely find you. She's really the only killer you wouldn't want to use OOO against. Also old Freddy, but that's not a thing anymore sadly.
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Well, Spirit is also braindead easy anyway, so that's probably a huge part of it.
Just saying.
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I disagree. Against good survivors she's actually not that easy. Against not good survivors yea kinda.
For example, pretty much every Spirit I play against has a super hard time catching me because I know how to play against her and I use both Iron Will and Spine Chill all the time. Playing like a braindead Spirit won't work against a survivor like me. You need actual skill to catch me. Or luck that I mess up.
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First of all, saying you need skill to "catch a Survivor like you" makes you sound like an egotistical jackass. Just saying.
Second of all, until tracking the audible footsteps and the uninjured breathing (which IW doesn't remove when injured) of Survivors or seeing exactly where they run because of the disturbances they leave becomes difficult, I will continue to say that Spirit takes no skill and is a guessing game at best. She's the only Killer where I can literally mindgame the Survivor by stopping to scratch my nose—which I have in fact done before.
Sorry for the rant; Spirit is my most utterly detested Killer. She's such AIDS and I wish she was never added.
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