i want to see killers balance like this

jiyeonlee

considered all add ons and high ranked battle
also considered current ptb

hillbilly
buff base charge speed amount of nerfed from tinkerer changed
when destroyed pallets with saw he gets 0.1 seconds less stun from that motion

huntless
buff wind up speed from what tinkerer changed as billy

nurse
charge time nerf to 25%slower
can't attack before last blink used or always have 2blink at max
can't see while blink moving

even with these all nerfs apply, still users 50% spam nurse at red rank in asia for sure

trapper
add one trap capacity for base ability

doctor
chess king add ons can 3seconds of stun to madness level 3 survivors
(after exhaust nerf this will not feels like ultra rare worth)

leatherface
saw charging movement buff to 100% of survivors running speeds

hag
give 115% or normal killers movement speed

wraith
decloak speed buff by 50% faster from current
when decloak bar completed he gets 0.5seconds of boost from base ability

blind warrior add ons change
when he burnt he gets 1seconds of stun and gets 2.5~4seconds of boost after stun
when he gets blind he gets boost 0.5~1.5seconds

all seeing spirit change
buff to 12~36meter even this is too noobish but buff it if you don't have idea for this crappy red add on

myers
25%faster leveling speed
stalking movement speeds buff to always 90% of survivors running speed

change accessory related add ons
when stalked more than 3seconds boost 0.5~1.5seconds after victim out of sight or ability button released

level3 time related add ons
brown buff from +10seconds,+50% to +20seconds,+30%
yellow buff from +20seconds,+50% to +30seconds,+30%
green buff from +30seconds,+50% to +40seconds,+40%
purple buff from +40seconds,+100% to +50seconds,+50%

with vanity mirror terror radius reduce by 8meter, can see 24meter of aura

pig
while crouching movement speed buff to 100% of survivors running speed
surprise attack movement speed buff from 160% to 200%
normal crouching and stand up delay is reduce by 20% current sit and up speed is stupid slow

freddy
dream transition time reduce from 7seconds to 5seconds
dreaming survivors can't wake up from self healing skill check fail

red brush add on doesn't reduce freddy's movement speeds (now its worthless than brown add ons)

black box add on obsessed survivor can't wake up by him/her self

Navydivea

"can't attack before last blink used or always have 2 blink at max
can't see while blink moving"

This isn't a nerf, this is unusable. The Nurse is all mind games. If she can't psych you out she quickly becomes mid tier.

The Doctor just strait up needs an Active power rework. His passive is ok to be a passive.

115% is normal killer btw. And with the buff it would be a bit much to be honest. She has amazing defense at the cost of offense. Her main problem are how little time she has to set up due to gens being so fast.

I mostly agree with the Pig changers except the speed buff. I'd say 170% is good just give me more control. Her traps are garbage though. The should make survivors blind to the boxes until it activates at the very least.

Bravo0413

@Navydivea said:
"can't attack before last blink used or always have 2 blink at max
can't see while blink moving"

This isn't a nerf, this is unusable. The Nurse is all mind games. If she can't psych you out she quickly becomes mid tier.

The Doctor just strait up needs an Active power rework. His passive is ok to be a passive.

115% is normal killer btw. And with the buff it would be a bit much to be honest. She has amazing defense at the cost of offense. Her main problem are how little time she has to set up due to gens being so fast.

I mostly agree with the Pig changers except the speed buff. I'd say 170% is good just give me more control. Her traps are garbage though. The should make survivors blind to the boxes until it activates at the very least.

the issue is the roar... remove the roar or make it happen at the end of the ambush... have the bear traps start as soon as you put them on... the whole thing is when you trap the survivor it only encourages survivors to do a gen because 2 1/2 minutes is plenty of time to get the trap off....

jiyeonlee

@Navydivea said:
"can't attack before last blink used or always have 2 blink at max
can't see while blink moving"

This isn't a nerf, this is unusable. The Nurse is all mind games. If she can't psych you out she quickly becomes mid tier.

The Doctor just strait up needs an Active power rework. His passive is ok to be a passive.

115% is normal killer btw. And with the buff it would be a bit much to be honest. She has amazing defense at the cost of offense. Her main problem are how little time she has to set up due to gens being so fast.

I mostly agree with the Pig changers except the speed buff. I'd say 170% is good just give me more control. Her traps are garbage though. The should make survivors blind to the boxes until it activates at the very least.

first problem is just different height of viewpoint

you thought nurse is mind game for current balance cause you never met good players

and prove of you are not a good nurse

im using her solution of swf mostly

can't be other way in this intuitive game

i can tell dbd recenlty lots of human flood came in

so even in rank1 can't find maximum skilled users often

but originally all red rankers of korean thought nurse has no answer do deal with

cause asian gamers playing all day and have higher level than other regions at most games

also they usually don't main one faction mostly both rank1 before flood

and its was before nerf survivors pallets and massively effected to encounter nurse

and

who killer goes avobe purple rank without ruin, i saw only nurse can do that

and i experienced only nurse one pick users were noob at this game generally

i met lots of rank1 nurse, when they playing swf with me i felt they was mostly noob at this game

like i saw in dbd competition in usa it was bad

but in killing friends mode, he just got me right away with nurse which can't do with other killers

i could drag them all days before got me or i can get those people for killers easy way

even with average walkers

doctor things you didn't read post

i disagree you wrote about hag have good defense, cause offense is defense in this game

nurse have best defense options

best at inturrpt gens and fastest patrol camping , also doesn't work common blocking

oops, if youre low skilled player you might disagree with inturrpt gens cause theres doctor

and seems doctor scare noobs lots, but its not real

when you exprienced enough you just see, not a teach or learn in this game this is intuitive party game

DocOctober

You and you're posts especially are jokes. This is not balance, this is a clusterfuck of ridiculous nerfs and buffs, far from anything even resembling balance.

It's a good thing you're not in charge or Dead by Daylight would truly be a clown-fiesta.

Acromio

@DocOctober said:
You and you're posts especially are jokes. This is not balance, this is clusterfuck of ridiculous nerfs and buffs, far from anything even resembling balance.

It's a good thing you're not in charge or Dead by Daylight would truly be a clown-fiesta.

+1

Master

If devs ever consider removing the nurse as you propose, then they can burry their game^^

jiyeonlee

@DocOctober said:
You and you're posts especially are jokes. This is not balance, this is a clusterfuck of ridiculous nerfs and buffs, far from anything even resembling balance.

It's a good thing you're not in charge or Dead by Daylight would truly be a clown-fiesta.

you main killer and not even good at them, shut and git gud

than come back here to say something

jiyeonlee

@Master said:
If devs ever consider removing the nurse as you propose, then they can burry their game^^

i started thought nurse is wrong character in this game at 200hours,

now i played 1500hours and thinking same, but with needs buff other too

i always start things expert cause im smarter than most people

im good at memorize things and analyses with theorization

but...i just didn't study hard enough cause look at my english its awful as devs scrambled heads.

Master

jiyeonlee said:

@Master said:
If devs ever consider removing the nurse as you propose, then they can burry their game^^

i started thought nurse is wrong character in this game at 200hours,

now i played 1500hours and thinking same, but with needs buff other too

i always start things expert cause im smarter than most people

im good at memorize things and analyses with theorization

but...i just didn't study hard enough cause look at my english its awful as devs scrambled heads.

Is there coming an argument too or is "I have X hours" all?

DocOctober

jiyeonlee said:

@DocOctober said:
You and you're posts especially are jokes. This is not balance, this is a clusterfuck of ridiculous nerfs and buffs, far from anything even resembling balance.

It's a good thing you're not in charge or Dead by Daylight would truly be a clown-fiesta.

you main killer and not even good at them, shut and git gud

than come back here to say something

An absolutely pathetic attempt at trying to discredit me. Spare yourself the trouble, it won't work.

It's obvious to anyone that you have very little understanding of the Game and its mechanics. I on the other hand have all the credibility I need since I'm known by both the devs and many players as the Wiki's Head Admin. I have more knowledge about this game than probably every other player and the people that matter (you don't) know that.

You can't discredit me with such pathetic statements.

And no one's taking you seriously anyways since, as I pointed out, you and your posts are jokes. Bad ones, but still jokes.

Cya, noob

jiyeonlee

@Master said:
jiyeonlee said:

@Master said:

If devs ever consider removing the nurse as you propose, then they can burry their game^^

i started thought nurse is wrong character in this game at 200hours,

now i played 1500hours and thinking same, but with needs buff other too

i always start things expert cause im smarter than most people

im good at memorize things and analyses with theorization

but...i just didn't study hard enough cause look at my english its awful as devs scrambled heads.

Is there coming an argument too or is "I have X hours" all?

@DocOctober said:
jiyeonlee said:

@DocOctober said:

You and you're posts especially are jokes. This is not balance, this is a clusterfuck of ridiculous nerfs and buffs, far from anything even resembling balance.

It's a good thing you're not in charge or Dead by Daylight would truly be a clown-fiesta.

you main killer and not even good at them, shut and git gud

than come back here to say something

An absolutely pathetic attempt at trying to discredit me. Spare yourself the trouble, it won't work.

It's obvious to anyone that you have very little understanding of the Game and its mechanics. I on the other hand have all the credibility I need since I'm known by both the devs and many players as the Wiki's Head Admin. I have more knowledge about this game than probably every other player and the people that matter (you don't) know that.

You can't discredit me with such pathetic statements.

And no one's taking you seriously anyways since, as I pointed out, you and your posts are jokes. Bad ones, but still jokes.

Cya, noob

whatever you said, height of viewpoint of yours same as how you skilled

and its terrible even i could try to bash you to fix you if you were asian

knowledge about this game? haha its very shallow

i told this is party game level,what did your learned for and what you got than

head admin of what, only you cares about that sites idiot so you re head of something stupid like yourself

jiyeonlee

@Master said:
jiyeonlee said:

@Master said:

If devs ever consider removing the nurse as you propose, then they can burry their game^^

i started thought nurse is wrong character in this game at 200hours,

now i played 1500hours and thinking same, but with needs buff other too

i always start things expert cause im smarter than most people

im good at memorize things and analyses with theorization

but...i just didn't study hard enough cause look at my english its awful as devs scrambled heads.

Is there coming an argument too or is "I have X hours" all?

hours doesn't meant anything only important is i started expert at everything

and better skilled than most of this forum users for sure

"for any games i playing" i play 7games and dbd is not even competitive level of difficulty, its handy game

im good at intuitive shallow games like this like overwatch

i wonder what dococtober learn from potato game like this

is he idiot? why have to learn something in this game

i did watched dbd jap wiki, theres wrote all items and killers specs

jiyeonlee

@DocOctober said:
jiyeonlee said:

you learn in this shallow game and expect other people don't know something you know?

in this intuitive party games height of viewpoint is same as skill

so unskilled as yourself same as doesn't know shits

if you are asian play with me than i could understand you

also only you care about those weebo sites,

those type of sites even exist in korea and i know type of people who cares about those sites

and im doing bodybuilding more than 9years unlike such some loser like you

you don't know what to eat and bad at this certain game, but im overwatch master and unicum in wot

so you should piss off before feel some shame

i can't even imagine person like you can have fake ego

at least theres some real people envy me, yes im internet addict

but i got some money and building from grandfather and lots of people agreed im smart as #########

unlike potato student

DocOctober

Claims to be smart as #########, yet can't write proper English, one of the easiest and quickest languages to learn to a basic level.

You can claim whatever you want, all the evidence and facts are against you and everyone knows that. I've rarely seen anything so pathetic and sad, it almost makes me feel sympathetic towards you. That can't be a happy life you're living.

But then again, all you've done so far is insult literally anyone that disagrees with your little troll comments, so quite honestly, my sympathy is very limited.

I'm thoroughly finished with you. Good day.

jiyeonlee

@DocOctober said:
Claims to be smart as #########, yet can't write proper English, one of the easiest and quickest languages to learn to a basic level.

You can claim whatever you want, all the evidence and facts are against you and everyone knows that. I've rarely seen anything so pathetic and sad, it almost makes me feel sympathetic towards you. That can't be a happy life you're living.

But then again, all you've done so far is insult literally anyone that disagrees with your little troll comments, so quite honestly, my sympathy is very limited.

I'm thoroughly finished with you. Good day.

thanks, this time you made some sense at least

jiyeonlee

im just > @DocOctober said:

Claims to be smart as #########, yet can't write proper English, one of the easiest and quickest languages to learn to a basic level.

You can claim whatever you want, all the evidence and facts are against you and everyone knows that. I've rarely seen anything so pathetic and sad, it almost makes me feel sympathetic towards you. That can't be a happy life you're living.

But then again, all you've done so far is insult literally anyone that disagrees with your little troll comments, so quite honestly, my sympathy is very limited.

I'm thoroughly finished with you. Good day.

but im happy cause i have good body and money also, inteligent than most people

far from disciplines doesn't mean not smart

im good at theorize things and memorize them

but you had to learn this game so i can't even feel worth of 'idiot' word for you

jiyeonlee

@DocOctober said:
Claims to be smart as #########, yet can't write proper English, one of the easiest and quickest languages to learn to a basic level.

You can claim whatever you want, all the evidence and facts are against you and everyone knows that. I've rarely seen anything so pathetic and sad, it almost makes me feel sympathetic towards you. That can't be a happy life you're living.

But then again, all you've done so far is insult literally anyone that disagrees with your little troll comments, so quite honestly, my sympathy is very limited.

I'm thoroughly finished with you. Good day.

and what facts do you have, you can't run from that facts you are bad at this game

if you were good enough than you should call me and fight me in game, not being a pussy like you right now

is this guy living in imagination world or something?

Doom_Punk

@jiyeonlee said:

@DocOctober said:
Claims to be smart as #########, yet can't write proper English, one of the easiest and quickest languages to learn to a basic level.

You can claim whatever you want, all the evidence and facts are against you and everyone knows that. I've rarely seen anything so pathetic and sad, it almost makes me feel sympathetic towards you. That can't be a happy life you're living.

But then again, all you've done so far is insult literally anyone that disagrees with your little troll comments, so quite honestly, my sympathy is very limited.

I'm thoroughly finished with you. Good day.

and what facts do you have, you can't run from that facts you are bad at this game

if you were good enough than you should call me and fight me in game, not being a pussy like you right now

is this guy living in imagination world or something?

Lol, acting like a DbD duel means jack #########...

How old are ya?