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Leatherface Will Not Be Viable Without Tinkerer
I implore you BHVR, please do not release the Tinkerer gutting without compensating the killers that rely on it to function.
You watered down Bubba's base kit due to potential abuse with stacking Tinkerer and it pigeon-holed him into a rev speed build to even get any use out of his power, homogenizing him and preventing him from using any other add-ons.
Now, though, he'll just be deprived of his power at base without recourse.
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I don't think I've ever seen a Leatherface even use Tinkerer.
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@Eninya said:
I don't think I've ever seen a Leatherface even use Tinkerer.Judging by the poll data on this website, Leatherface has one of (if not the fewest) mains of any killer. I assure you, he's a solid killer with Tinkerer right now, and will become bottom mid tier after its gutted.
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lol.
Tinkerer.
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They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.
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Using Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb is almost the exact same thing with Tinkerer or not.
The same thing applies when using both charge addons on huntress's hatchets (as an exmaple). You don't need tinkerer with those addons, as it really only applies a half second difference.
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@HorsePower said:
Using Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb is almost the exact same thing with Tinkerer or not.The same thing applies when using both charge addons on huntress's hatchets (as an exmaple). You don't need tinkerer with those addons, as it really only applies a half second difference.
Not only is that still slower, you can't afford to always run Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb or you're running out extremely quickly.
Besides, they said they want to get rid of add-on dependency. His other add-ons aren't even bad for the most part, but they aren't viable because his power is watered down and he needs rev speed add-ons to even have a power at all.
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@Leatherbilly said:
@HorsePower said:
Using Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb is almost the exact same thing with Tinkerer or not.The same thing applies when using both charge addons on huntress's hatchets (as an exmaple). You don't need tinkerer with those addons, as it really only applies a half second difference.
Not only is that still slower, you can't afford to always run Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb or you're running out extremely quickly.
Besides, they said they want to get rid of add-on dependency. His other add-ons aren't even bad for the most part, but they aren't viable because his power is watered down and he needs rev speed add-ons to even have a power at all.
They need to adjust Killer economy. Sucks to spend so many points for a chance at decent add-ons that vanish after the match. Survivors can do "item runs" to replenish items and save BP.
"But MegaWaffle killers get more BP per match!"
Yes generally they do but thanks to large expensive rng webs this still results in a net loss in most cases. Its honestly nothing major but nothing ruins your fun more then spending waaay too much time trying for that add-on only to get a game were people DCed...
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Leatherface Tinkerer is pure evil and hopefully they buff him properly to make him still viable but not op Nurse like.
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stupid people doesn't know what tinkerer does
devs shouldn't change it before adjust tinkerer related add ons
it only proved how devs unsensible people of thinking process on this game
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@PolarBear said:
They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.Well then they should do that with the Tinkerer change, not after it.
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@Leatherbilly said:
@PolarBear said:
They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.Well then they should do that with the Tinkerer change, not after it.
They only have so many coder writers. It's the reason updates take so long in the first place. They will get to him after they are done with non-licensed killers.
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@Navydivea said:
@Leatherbilly said:
@PolarBear said:
They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.Well then they should do that with the Tinkerer change, not after it.
They only have so many coder writers. It's the reason updates take so long in the first place. They will get to him after they are done with non-licensed killers.
Why launch the Tinkerer change until all those affected have been properly addressed? Nobody is dying for this terrible, half-baked version of Tinkerer to hit live.
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He never was viable to begin with. I really pray he gets buffs.
PRAY FOR BUBBA
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@Leatherbilly said:
Why launch the Tinkerer change until all those affected have been properly addressed? Nobody is dying for this terrible, half-baked version of Tinkerer to hit live.I think they just want to get rid of tinkerer as soon as possible, before adding the next killer, that won't be able to use it. And I feel like they wanted to get rid of those who use Tinkerer with Huntress and Hillbilly in the first place. With LF the issue is, that people aren't asking for a buff that much. So I feel like they aren't even seeing the problems with his AddOns and ability.
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@PolarBear said:
They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.While this is true, none of these are on patch notes, and they proceed to nerf Huntress hatchet add-ons
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Really wish Not Queen or someone could pop in and at least acknowledge Tinkerer's removal is a sackslap to Leatherface.
Least then the discussion could shift into whether or not he deserves compensation, and to what capacity.
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Leathedface has never been viable
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@Master said:
Leathedface has never been viableYep this, no map control, trash add-ons besides chargetime, and a much worst version than Billy
just stop playing him and jump on Billy
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@Leatherbilly said:
I implore you BHVR, please do not release the Tinkerer gutting without compensating the killers that rely on it to function.You watered down Bubba's base kit due to potential abuse with stacking Tinkerer and it pigeon-holed him into a rev speed build to even get any use out of his power, homogenizing him and preventing him from using any other add-ons.
Now, though, he'll just be deprived of his power at base without recourse.
I main Leatherface more or less (along with others) and I've NEVER touched the perk. I'm not even sure if I have it in my perk selection.
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@Someissues said:
@Master said:
Leathedface has never been viableYep this, no map control, trash add-ons besides chargetime, and a much worst version than Billy
just stop playing him and jump on Billy
Well the ideal scenario is to buff him and give him things that he is better at than Billy and vice versa
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@IronWolf115 said:
Well the ideal scenario is to buff him and give him things that he is better at than Billy and vice versa
Though I agree with you, the devs schedule on buffing Killers are kinda a joke, it took them a week or 2 to nerf Freddy after release, it won't be hard for them to revert some freddy changes like now, rather they said on response to Jen that Freddy will get buff eventually
meaning he have to wait 3 months, so Leatherface will have to wait 6 months, while they can easily do small changes that can be placeholder before actual rework
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@Someissues said:
@IronWolf115 said:
Well the ideal scenario is to buff him and give him things that he is better at than Billy and vice versa
Though I agree with you, the devs schedule on buffing Killers are kinda a joke, it took them a week or 2 to nerf Freddy after release, it won't be hard for them to revert some freddy changes like now, rather they said on response to Jen that Freddy will get buff eventually
meaning he have to wait 3 months, so Leatherface will have to wait 6 months, while they can easily do small changes that can be placeholder before actual rework
Oh yeah, I completely agree. I believe I also heard recently that mid chapter patches will mainly focus on the chapter that was just released so I have very little faith that LF will be buffed anytime soon
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@IronWolf115 said:
@Someissues said:
@IronWolf115 said:
Well the ideal scenario is to buff him and give him things that he is better at than Billy and vice versa
Though I agree with you, the devs schedule on buffing Killers are kinda a joke, it took them a week or 2 to nerf Freddy after release, it won't be hard for them to revert some freddy changes like now, rather they said on response to Jen that Freddy will get buff eventually
meaning he have to wait 3 months, so Leatherface will have to wait 6 months, while they can easily do small changes that can be placeholder before actual rework
Oh yeah, I completely agree. I believe I also heard recently that mid chapter patches will mainly focus on the chapter that was just released so I have very little faith that LF will be buffed anytime soon
Would love to even know if he's going to be touched at all.
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@PolarBear said:
They already said that they will be buffing the base power of all killers since tinkerer was overdoing it way too much.This is accurate, but incomplete. They are first making attempts to normalize all killers by removing/reworking the perks and addons that are OP. At the same time, they are working on buffing weak killers first, a few at a time. The devs don’t consider that these changes will weaken the Huntress, or Leather Face, to a level below the normalization curve, which is why the Huntress received additional nerfing balances. We’ve been told that the nurse is going to change dramatically, but they haven’t even hinted at what they are going to do.
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