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Are you guys ever going to buff pig ?
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Um... I hope you aren't using bad data for this proclamation. It's hard for you guys to collect hard data with a system that gives flawed data regardless.
Many of us are skeptical of this data because it just doesn't take certain things into account. Ruin was used in 80% of games in high ranks. Alright. But why was it used for that percentage?
Then look at survivor perks. DS, BT, Adrenaline, and an exhaustion perk of their choice is often the big combo. I would be curious on the stats for those perks and if any changes would be coming to those to make them more balanced.
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These replies just prove that the devs dont understand their own game and I dont want to be mean. @Almo @Peanits I would really like to see the numbers you are using to make your claims but I am positive that those numbers have nothing to do with the balance or with the strength of the Pig. Do you even realize, as developers, that you dont have CASUAL mode in game so everyone who plays casualy (solo or with friends), everyone who plays for memes, everyone who doesnt play competitively for any reason (which is a lot of people even at red ranks) is included in those numbers?? How can you then use those numbers and talk about the strength or balance? Mabye some specific killers are played more casualy than others? I dont know and you dont know also. No numbers would show you that unless there is a RANKED mode and you have numbers just from people who actually try.
This is why there is such a difference between the community and the devs...the community actually know the game and the devs have some numbers and cant properly read it. Everyone knows the Pig needs a slight buff..as well as another 5 killers or so..
This is exactly why I have lost all the hope considering this game..the philosophy behind it si just wrong and the devs have never decided if they want to make causal or competitive game. They have been trying to please everyone but this is not how to do it. And by providing the link for the autumn statistics which are so irrelevant when you talk about one specific killer, they just proved that they think about it all wrong.
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Today I learned that while most of the game is balanced around the average Joe, the best way to look at Pig is to watch a Pig one trick that plays Pig 24/7, look at terrible boring statistics and conclude that Pig doesn't need any tweak :)
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So when do you finally buff Clown and Bubba? Oh you won't because they're not survivors ^_^
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Or she could do the roar as she lunges
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Legion and pig being bad as bubba? You really never played them
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I wouldn't want her to be drastically changed at base, although I wouldn't complain about traps never coming off on first box.
Addons need a big overhaul though.
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And who is next after the Doctor? I hope this is Bubba and Billy?
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I have to agree as someone who plays pig as well. One of the few killers who I’ve been able to defeat some of the best OCE swf’s with. However it often comes done to rng with the helmets More often than not so it would be nice to see if the rng was made more consistent such as removing the ability for the trap to be removed in the first box.
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Pig isn’t the strongest killer but she’s a lot stronger than people give her credit for. She has an inbuilt game slower way stronger than ruin ever was, a stealth ability and a semi mind game anti loop. There are many other killers which more urgently need love shown to them such as bubba, legion and clown.
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I would love a better view when crouched. It’s nearly impossible to see anything on maps with lots of grass.
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The same stats that claimed Nurse was terrible?
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We watch for veterans feedback...
Proceed to nerf ruin cause 4 random new players don't want to look for bones.
Greet job so far.
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I've never seen any mod/dev/etc who contradicts themselves as much as BHVR and peanits specifically.
Here are stats... stats don't matter... but stats say to balance this... uhm ok
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Well, he was good, the problem was he got released in a time were killer was unbearable to play and map pressure and mobility was valued above all else
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What is it about Pig that draws you to her? Is there something about her that you personally identify with? Do you find her relatable in some aspect as my Pig main friend does?
Because if that’s the case, I think you’d be much more comfortable playing Clown instead.
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Haha, get it? cuz devs are clowns xD
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Yes, that is the joke, old sport.
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Buff!?
We don't use them terms around here partner!
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Mfw they apparently have internal data reliable enough to claim Pig needs no buffs, but only show us garbage they claim shouldn't be used as a representation of accurate balance. SMFH.
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I think Pig is fine I do well with her, but on the other hand I want all killers to get a buff so I'm all for it 😃 Surviving is more fun the harder it is that is what I think playing survivor, and in no way is killing being too easy atm.
Also being called Pig by survivors after a game is now a compliment, unless you have just played Wraith or some other killer 😲
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Sorry, but I still find that hard to believe. I understand that there is only so much you guys are allowed to say, but "our data shows that y'all are wrong" does not really give us much to go on. We really would rather have the large discussion on this. Without it, not many people who don't already believe the Pig is fine are going to think differently.
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Pig is one of my favorites and I should admit that she's mostly performs good. Her low profile helps with mind games and small hitbox with looping. I've just stopped using her ambush because I don't play against people that don't simply leave when I start crouching anymore, and ambush is actually worst when you use it to "ambush". All I do is make a "vibe check", crouching for a moment to see if surv gonna leave the loop immediately, maybe use it once to verify that surv does indeed just leave.
Beartraps are bae, though it really bums me when survivor removes it first try.
And MOST of her add-ons do very little or hurt her. Since I've maxed her, I can't be bothered with getting add-ons for her. Most useful add-ons modify her ambush, but since how little opportunities I get to use it they also don't attract me as much as before. She has none of actually helpful add-ons.
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I think her dash mind are not as good as some people claim. There are some loops where you can indeed pull one over your opponent and really catch them by surprise, but I find that only really works if the loop is not terribly safe to start with and if they, y'know, actually fall for it. Against solid survivors, good luck.
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Weird things like not being able to pick her traps back up (like Trapper can, or get them back after use like Hag)?
The end game nullifying her traps?
Roaring BEFORE she charges to warn the survivors of it?
Hers being the only stealth that ISN'T instant (even thought Ghostface can also crouch AND go stealth at the same time like she can AND peak around corners, while ALSO having an insta-down)?
What about how survivors get to ignore her traps with the free escape hatch?
I find it absolutely hilarious how you balance the ENTIRE game's primary band-aid fix around the frustration of NEW survivor players, cite that NOED isn't a problem if you cleanse it (like old Ruin but apparently that's a selective solution based on new survivor frustration levels), then have the unmitigated gall to point to high level players as proof that there isn't as much of a problem with a character's balance.
Pig is a little of every other type of killer but all of their weaknesses and none of their strengths. And it saddens me to hear you defend her current state after consistent nerfs or just pretending she doesn't exist. I'll link a video to some ideas I had for her improvement. Maybe you can consider them as a rework since you somehow don't see the problem.
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