How do you feel about the speed of generator repair and the overall speed of the game?

I believe he's talking about finishing generators. You can regress a 80% completed generator. When you have 3 gens left and they are close together, finishing it in 44 seconds is literally being sucked into 1 chase provided there is a safe pallet. Lucky thing for survivors, they are EVERYWHERE.

Not that you don't know that. I mean you have almost 1,000 posts since the last time I replied to one of your comments and that wasn't very long ago.

The change sucked, made survivor queue take longer and games faster, less points per game too for both sides it seems.

Just a terrible change, and if devs dont get better at this stuff this game will turn into another deathgarden aka dead game.

Plenty of people don't care about the pips and just wanna bully the other side, even if you do pip though have being being rank 4 getting matched with rank 14 killers (or vice versa although it doesn't seem to happen nearly as often)

Apparently their matchmaking doesn't "scale" it's just after 10 minutes it's 10 ranks in either direction. Not like, +1 rank in either direction every minute or anything that would make sense..

One last point while I'm on this forum: It's exceptionally common for 2-3 gens to pop as you're hooking your first survivor. The only chance the killer has usually is to make sure they remaining gens are close together as best as possible to reduce patrol/travel time and maximize intel/positioning. I think Scott's idea goes a long way towards making this game enjoyable for everyone again.

Old Ruin meant I at least had to pay attention enough to hit my skill checks. The current gens go too fast (they don't take long at all), but not fast enough (because they're mind-numbingly dull without any additional challenges). I end up spacing out holding the R1 button on PS4.

Killers, in an effort to make the most efficient use of time, tend to chase me down immediately off the hook and throw me on again back-to-back until I'm dead. It's usually a combination of bad judgment (or plain apathy) by random teammates farming me and the killer being pressured to perform. In any event, it's not fun to play right now.

I've been finding the current pace & atmosphere pretty dull and unpleasant, so have semi-avoided playing since the Ruin nerf was announced. It's no fun waiting 10 - 20 minutes to get into a match that I either space out or get taken out in 2k bloodpoints.

I’m a survivor main myself I don’t agree with changing gen speed I think there should be more objectives like find parts to repair a gen or get gasoline to use as fuel for the gen it gets boring holding the repair button and hitting skill checks I like to go around the map to get the items to get the gens done

Nope. What I wrote is accurate.

Gens pop too fast as killer against good survivors. SWF teams are too strong. When I play killer and have two gens left with only two or three hooks, it is gonna be a loss. You can tell when you play against teams of solo players. Less body blocking, less communication and stacking on gens. They sometimes three gen themselves. These gen speeds are fine against survivors who make mistakes. But against coordinated teams, they are done hilariously fast. But extending the time is a bad fix, because when I solo queue survivor, half the time my teammates are urbaning around the map any time they hear a heartbeat. So 120second gens would be a solo queue death sentence. Not an easy thing to balance. Its like making rules for a football game that includes middleschool teams and college teams. Lol

I mean, that’s cool. Any more information to add? Console, Pc? Survivor main, killer main? What rank do you play at? Big Weiner Energy doesn’t provide much data. Lol Like just messing with you, but there are lots of people who have issues with gen speed right now. i’m a Rank 5 killer on ps4, I played 5 games with at least two rank one survivors but all red ranks. Four of them were groups. Gens went by way too fast. I play Rank 1 survivor and and gens seem to be an ok speed if I am playing against at least a purple rank killer with a solo queue group. If I load in with a SWF the killer gets destroyed. Its hard to balance when the squads have such a vast difference in what they bring to the table. If I am in a good group I love the gen speeds. I dont feel panicked. Chill matches. Lol But with lower skilled teammates I feel like I am internally screaming for ten minutes.

game is too quick now, sometimes even uneventful, level of fun and suspance reduced to 0.

Hope devs have so.e ideas on how to fix this mess.

Game speed is too fast.

As survivor, I can usually finish a gen before the killer gets to me. And, even when they find me and I get chased, by the time I look down at the number of gens we only need one or two more to be done. And those usually get done when the killer gets into another chase.

As killer, even like Spirit, on some maps I can barely make it across to the other side before a gen goes off. This is so disheartening. Especially when you're a new killer trying to practice and get better, its painful to play.

I still love the game, I just want something to be done about the state it is now because it is not great.

Gens speed is too fast and it how awful it gets depends on the situation depending on if they decide to stick together or split up and if they split up you have a very high chance of losing especially if they don't 3 gen themselves since you can only chase one person at a time

Things that could help to fix gen rush:

1) Lower hook times. That would pressure survivors to stop doing gens.

2) Balancing the maps in order to reduce infinite loops or pallets chains.

3) Improve totem locations to be better hidden and more random.

What gen times?

Since the Ruin nerf came out there are no gen times. They just pop. Took me half a minute to find the first survivor. There goes one generator. I begin to chase him Oops there goes another gen.

"gAmE iS nOt SuRvIvOr sIdEd At All. "

His idea just removes the stealth play some survivors (not myself) like. Also I think it is too intense to start the game like that for new players.

It's just an idea I felt worked for the game. Removes immediate gen rush, doesn't work with other hex totems so it wouldn't work with thrill or noed and it gives killers who need time to set up and good amount of time to do it.

How I feel about the current gen speed? 10 min que for 5 minute game for survivors should tell everyone enough whats the current state of the gen speed.

Too bad majority of people are on gray / yellow ranks where killers still dominate no matter what so devs are in pretty rough spot how they are gonna fix the game.

I think games go by a bit too fast. This, in turn, makes nobody want to play killer which makes the que times unbearably long.

I dont think gen speed should be changed. But there are too many unbalanced maps in this game that need to be fixed. And the RNG is sometimes a big problem with the maps.

First things first, I am a rank 3 survivor (I feel like I do not belong in red ranks; I am practically carried by the team -- of course I can loop almost efficiently, and would say I am more a rank 4, 5, or 6 survivor to a degree, like I'm not a consistent rank 3) and a rank 10 (reached purple ranks last year before taking a hiatus, I has a LOT to learn as killer)

What I don't do;

• Bring in toolboxes if there's two or more toolboxes in the group
• SWF (I am actually hindered with communication, I have solo-queued almost my ENTIRE gameplay life, so it's actually alien to me to have to speak, which makes my allies angry with me *insert totes sad face here*....I'm sorry >.>)
• Flashlight blind (I'm that survivor who brings a spooky flashlight just to see the ghost... leave me be)
• Moris (ONLY for dailies and I only bring a ivory or that crappy yerrow(yes I'm aware it's misspelled <3))
• Use cheap tactics OR newly discovered techs (granted I don't know how to do them, but I also know what it's like to have it done to me, soo NO thank you :P)
• Hard camp/tunnel (unless all gens have been powered and I need to secure a kill)
• Act or behave in a toxic way
• Bring in a yellow or better medkit (sometimes I will, depending on the build, but 9 times out of 10, it's a brown medkit)
• Keys... (green doesn't count right? o.o) (also have brought keys to do the four times escape ting, but actually only needed to use them one time out of the 4)
• Immersion diversion life (I'm a Feng Min wearing my uber bright red outfit. I can't hide lmao)
• 360 (can't even if I tried... and I'm on console. I'm not talented D:)
• Leave peeps behind (I do everything in my power to get someone out... even against noed or Bubba)
• Use Self-care ("uses fingers to create a 'cross'" STAY BACK, I'M WARNING YA!)
• Stick to one chase too long (I drop chase if I know the survivor is one of the stronger links of the team)

OKAY OKAY Now, with all of that out of the way, and now you have a better understanding of my gameplay and game style, I can give you my personal opinion on the gen speeds, the health, and all that good jazziness. This is going to be based on my estimations and experience and won't be 100% accurate. I don't have it recorded or written down for ya.

As a survivor, I have escaped, roughly, 6 times out of 10. Out of those six times, 4 or 5 was a four man escape. Almost every single match I have played since matchmaking has become a problem, I was paired with other red ranks, rarely, believe it or not, was I paired with rank 1's (this is only including the survivors I am paired with). In addition, 8 or 9 times out of 10, I am paired with a rank 8 or HIGHER killer, going as high as rank 14. When I am paired with a red rank killer, it's more often than not, a rank 1 or 2 killer.

My fastest games can be 5 minutes (of course there's always that outlier or two in the mix, but I'm including the consistent ones) and my longest games have been 8 or 9 minutes (again not including the outliers). The five minute games often end with the killer getting one or two hooks. The second is often gotten right as the last gen is powered, so they end up camping to secure the kill at that point. The gens can go so fast, to put it simply. One survivor will be chased by the killer while I am working with one other or by myself on a gen. Almost always, two gens pop by the time a; the killer gets that survivor down, b; the killer injures the survivor (this often created a bloody deadzone DD:) or c; broke chase to pressure one of us and either found me or found one of the other survivors. During my eight or nine minute games, the mere difference is the pressure the killer puts on us. Instead of two gens one hook, it's one gen, one or two hooks. These games are often with a; doctor, spirit, billy, freddy, GF, huntress (VERY dependent on the Huntress) or yes, even Bubba (I don't know what it is, but some red rank survivors against Bubba fail to realize the safety they're more often in... POSITION IS IMPORTANT .-. but but but this is my opinion, don't take my word for it and I'm getting off track), sometimes, less often; clown, demo (demo is only less because I see him way less often .__. #DEMOLOVER!), hag (very rarely do I go against a solid hag), or Nurse (I am on Console, so she doesn't always have the most promising results).

These killers I've mentioned only get solid hooks early-mid game if the map allows them, too, so even if they're those killers, the map makes a world of a difference. Gens can still go by fast even if you've got one slugged and one hooked. Because while those two are preoccupied, the killer still has to find and/or chase the third potential survivor, and the fourth is likely finishing up or would have already finished a gen -- ultimately having the choice to leave their second and save or work on the second gen. This doesn't even account for perks that survivors or killers can have. I'm often opting out of getting healed and just doing the generator, so if I'm the hooked or slugged survivor (unless it be Oni), I don't heal when saved or healed to injured state -- I immediately get on the gen. Nearly every time, the same can be said about the survivor if I'm rescuing the hooked/healing the slugged. All three of us can easily reset as well, making all of that progress null and void. If two or three of us end up getting on the same gen, I leave. More often than not, I actually pressure a gen near the killer who is chasing. (I will admit... many times I've been caught and was chased instead, even when and if I'm fully healed...#KillerMagnetForTheWin<3)

I play this game to get chased. I love learning new styles, being forced to learn new things, because it gets my heart pumping. This goes for both roles, actually. I do the gens as survivor, because if I'm not getting chased, I have nothing else to do. I cleanse totems near that gen and cleanse them on the way (if I see them) to other gens. I mean who leaves 1k or 1.5k bp just lying around, man? That stuff ain't cheap! When I said I pressure gens near the killer and chased survivor, I do it because I want to be chased. The speed of the game goes by too fast for me to often get a chase. I'll admit, I shy away if there's rancor, noed, mori, etc, but if I have power of removing one of those (no-ed) or have no fear of it (mori, because I hadn't been hooked), then I'll be more than happy to get chased and/or be a martyr for the team.

Snowballing is one of the few ways a Killer can win now. If my team is too altruistic, then the killer will likely get a snowball. I can't tell ya how many times I'm the last one standing because of this. And quite often, I'm found and killed, but even in that amount of being found and killed, I reset everyone, too. The killer can't be everywhere at once. It's impossible (not saying they should be everywhere at once, by the by... don't hurt me plz o.o) to watch over your slugs and/or hooks and find the remaining survivors or last survivor in the match. Snowball is why I see so many billies, spirits, and ghostfaces. They, out of my games, at least, have had the HIGHEST snowball potential/rate when I versed them.

However... even snowballs are boring, because they, too, are essentially, fast/immediate. As killer, trust me, they feel good, especially if the snowball follows after a few scenarios, but it doesn't give you the main experience that you wanted when playing as either role. That experience, for me, is the chase. The game's speed often leaves little room or time for those chases, but I also know, there's not a whole lot of adjusting that can be done in order to make it feasible, without reworking the entire game. This game is designed around RNG for the most part -- and it's, quote-on-quote, inconsistent endings is what drives people to play, even in 8 or 9 minute games. But if the end result becomes consistent, it'll lose that favored (love/hate relationship in other words) trait, making it less and less fun and more and more boring.

I've played less killer, solely because of the fact that it is often the same result each time. I'm paired against me, essentially, as killer. Rank 10 versus red ranks. Yes, I understand rank doesn't mean skill, but rank DOES have a curve more often than not. You can tell the difference in many situations. When I have played killer, I can tell you what ranks I'm going against after versing each survivor once, for the most part. There's definitely a difference between a red and green and brown and so on. (Purples are like a grey area though, I almost never see a purple rank survivor o.o Dunno if this is just me, though.)

Like just yesterday, I went against a scary solid Hillbilly on the farm map with the barn, and he had me wary of the sound his chainsaw made. In the beginning, he was dropping chases and applying pressure over all of us, but eventually, he needed to dedicate to one survivor. That survivor costed him the third and fourth gen. He actually had the survivor he was chasing down at the Cowtree. Right as he hit the survivor, my gen (the fourth one) and the other (third one) popped nearly at the same time. I won't lie, my heart sank, watching him back away from the slug and standing there. I thought he was going to DC. I even stood in front of the man a few times, hoping to start a chase with him, but he stayed there. I didn't message him after, so there's a chance something came up irl, but the timing, I don't know. I just knew how he felt.

Personally, the game and gens go by fast. I could've just said this and went on my marry way, but I felt I needed to explain why I feel this way.

Of course none of it would be a problem if they just added me as the Donut Killer into the game ,-. I'd devour everyone, man, lemme be the DONUT KILLWER! Tanks for reading though, especially if you read all of it rotfl <3

Gen Speed is way to fast.... I´ve played many matches lately as survivor where in the first 3 minutes already 2 gens were working.

Right but perks shouldn't be required to fix the game...oh wait

Some killers need some time early game, however optimal survivors will completely annihilate you before you start to roll the ball cuz the gens will get done