Let's put together some of the most popular proposals... from some killers:

@Ihatelife said:
As the killer my biggest issue is the gen rush.
As the survivor it's hurt me that I can't do anything with the tunneling, there is currently no perk's that you can help you from this.

Stealth perks can help. Can't be chased if you can't be found.

@Ihatelife said:

@Orion said:

@Ihatelife said:
As the killer my biggest issue is the gen rush.
As the survivor it's hurt me that I can't do anything with the tunneling, there is currently no perk's that you can help you from this.

Stealth perks can help. Can't be chased if you can't be found.

I mean if the survivor rescue me when the killer is very nearby, I can't actually do anything, cause in a few seconds I will be downed. I play alone btw. This is the most annoying thing when I play.

Can't get hooked if you can't be found. Stealth counters literally everything in the game.

ZombieGenesis said:

I don't get why this thread hasn't been closed. It was clearly just created to troll killer mains. Seriously, I think some people need to start getting banned from the forum.

@brokedownpalace said:
Stealth counters literally everything.

Yes, it does. If you'd played stealth games, you'd know how to stealth better, even with sporadic aura reading.

@Vietfox said:
1 - remove the hatch

2 - nerf ds, sc

3 - nerf looping

4 - make other killers as powerful as (or close to) the nurse.

5 - make gens to take longer to repair (or gather pieces to repair them)

6 - remove SWF

Don't you see a big flaw if all of these ideas became real?

I personally find it funny when someone asks for all this and yet makes fun of survivors by saying they want ez matches.

PS: feel free to add more of these suggestions if you think they have been proposed often.

Disclaimer: i've already said that swf needs a especial treatment and some small tweaks would be needed in the game.

Let me tell it to you straight as a Killer main...Also as someone who has time in this game and understands both sides.

1. The Hatch is broken, no doubt about that. There would not be 3+ hour standoffs (according to some people) if it was not. There needs to be a mechanic in place to fix this. I am not sure what that is though. I liked the idea of closing the hatch, but I don't like the fact that you have to complete a generator to reopen it. Being a Killer, I think the person who holds the power should not be the survivor in this case. I am the big bad scary guy who holds the weapon, I theoretically should win. With that said I completely understand teammates who all die and that is your only escape for the hope that fits in the lore. You are a survivor being punished for others not doing well. What if there is a mechanic that is a grab only action in the hatch area (2m maybe slightly larger) that the killer wants to give the survivor a fighting chance and puts the weapon and skills away. The killer can only grab, but no survivor animation for jumping into the hatch is needed. The killer can grab without downing the survivor but gets to go carry the survivor to the hook. On the other hand, a skill check pops up on the Survivors end with a very narrow hitbox (remember you should be afraid you are staring the killer down) to dodge and escape. All other play is normal. This should give both sides a fair opportunity.

2. DS - The get out of Jail free pass does need to be nerfed. I really did enjoy the suggested changes to DS and would like to see that made. (Basically, DS could be run as many times as you like, but doing so puts you in an unhealable injured state). I think this would be an interesting change, but I am unsure how this would impact both sides. The other thing it could do is just stun a killer in place with the survivor on the shoulder. This could allow the survivor to escape and could be used multiple times too, but not an instant escape. It would increase the use of Iron Grasp or Agitation for Killers but would be a different idea for DS altogether.
   SC- Don't touch this at all. It is a great perk it is fine the way it is. They do need to get rid of instant heal add-ons for medkits, but that is a different discussion. SC is a delay. If a survivor is using SC and healing themselves that is one less survivor that is not on a generator. Maybe it needs to be changed a bit...remove the item use buff but the speed is great to keep it.

3. Looping is bad. I want a survivor to escape. Part of the fun of this game is the chase and sure I may get triggered if I lose someone, but that is part of the game, but we cannot remove looping until we have something else in place to allow the game to progress. I would love different obstacles. Maybe things survivors can slide/roll under, but we definitely need more things to break the line of site. The Corn in Coldwind is great, the tall cars in Autohaven make the line of site breakers. The more unique line of site breakers would be a huge improvement. The other thing is maybe making the maps auto-populate. Keep the key buildings there, but don't make the maps as memorizable so I know that if I turn this corner I know pallet X is here, and window is to the left. Lery's has too many windows so even generating a random boarding window feature would be great. Just something to mix up my chases a bit.

4. I like the Nurse, I don't play her, but I like her. However, the reason she is as powerful as she is is that she breaks the core escape mechanics of the survivors. The pallet drops and the looping jukes. I love her ability. I think that if the maps are changed and fewer opportunities to the loop are improved then she can have some minor adjustments. Maybe get rid of the multiple blink add-ons and make it somehow that she cannot move through something...Could be wood, could be pallets. Just something to add a bit of a challenge to her, but allows the survivors an honest chance to escape besides running back into her pathing.

5. When I play survivor for dailies I hate doing generators. That said I am not good at looping etc. I would hate for Generators to take longer. It is some of the most boring parts of this game. Now, that said there could be the killer a perk that shows if 2 or more survivors are on the same generator. Maybe a glow maybe White in color from anywhere on the map. This would prevent some "gen rushing" (I hate the term - this is the survivor's objective in the game) but it may make camping a better strat for some killers if they ran this perk. I hate ruin, but I see it is valuable to players. I think ruin is enough, but they really need to fix the hex system. I would like the killer to get stacks based on the hex perks they run, they can see the hexes and like the trapper/hag they can light the hexes as they choose. They could run ruin last they could run it first thing. It is up to them. NOED would be the only one that they don't control. Once the hexes are placed they lose the ability to see the hexes.

6. SWF is fine. I was playing before SWF was a thing and lobbies were terrible. It would also kill the game. There does need to be something to repair the game though that has never been implemented. I say repair because this game was built with survivors having very limited knowledge of the others. There is a major reason there is no voice chat built into the game. So one adjustment I would make is that until the Killer is back in the endgame lobby all his perks are completely invisible to survivors. This prevents that information being spread to teammates and placing the killer at less of an advantage and rendering a perk like NOED or Blood Warden almost useless. I also suggested a 5th perk for SWF teams. When triggered it would not alert the killer (maybe even not alerting the killer post game), but allows killers to select from 1 of 5 predefined, NOT TEACHABLE, NOT AVAILABLE IN BLOODWEB perks that are just given to each player. Those were things like A BP multiplier, something to randomly reduce pallets, or increase blocked windows, generator regression (when kicked) by 5-10%...etc. Things that a killer/survivor will not notice drastic changes to know there is a SWF Team.

So while some Killers may make these requests, please remember for the past 12-18 months killers have been stomped on by survivors. Killers were just not intimidating enough so survivors would flashlight save, pallet slam, and not be concerned about doing their objective basically bullied. I understand many of the arguments - discussions, but remember, many survivor requests have been met.

Nightmare247 said:

@Vietfox said:
1 - remove the hatch

2 - nerf ds, sc

3 - nerf looping

4 - make other killers as powerful as (or close to) the nurse.

5 - make gens to take longer to repair (or gather pieces to repair them)

6 - remove SWF

Don't you see a big flaw if all of these ideas became real?

I personally find it funny when someone asks for all this and yet makes fun of survivors by saying they want ez matches.

PS: feel free to add more of these suggestions if you think they have been proposed often.

Disclaimer: i've already said that swf needs a especial treatment and some small tweaks would be needed in the game.

Let me tell it to you straight as a Killer main...Also as someone who has time in this game and understands both sides.

1. The Hatch is broken, no doubt about that. There would not be 3+ hour standoffs (according to some people) if it was not. There needs to be a mechanic in place to fix this. I am not sure what that is though. I liked the idea of closing the hatch, but I don't like the fact that you have to complete a generator to reopen it. Being a Killer, I think the person who holds the power should not be the survivor in this case. I am the big bad scary guy who holds the weapon, I theoretically should win. With that said I completely understand teammates who all die and that is your only escape for the hope that fits in the lore. You are a survivor being punished for others not doing well. What if there is a mechanic that is a grab only action in the hatch area (2m maybe slightly larger) that the killer wants to give the survivor a fighting chance and puts the weapon and skills away. The killer can only grab, but no survivor animation for jumping into the hatch is needed. The killer can grab without downing the survivor but gets to go carry the survivor to the hook. On the other hand, a skill check pops up on the Survivors end with a very narrow hitbox (remember you should be afraid you are staring the killer down) to dodge and escape. All other play is normal. This should give both sides a fair opportunity.

2. DS - The get out of Jail free pass does need to be nerfed. I really did enjoy the suggested changes to DS and would like to see that made. (Basically, DS could be run as many times as you like, but doing so puts you in an unhealable injured state). I think this would be an interesting change, but I am unsure how this would impact both sides. The other thing it could do is just stun a killer in place with the survivor on the shoulder. This could allow the survivor to escape and could be used multiple times too, but not an instant escape. It would increase the use of Iron Grasp or Agitation for Killers but would be a different idea for DS altogether.
   SC- Don't touch this at all. It is a great perk it is fine the way it is. They do need to get rid of instant heal add-ons for medkits, but that is a different discussion. SC is a delay. If a survivor is using SC and healing themselves that is one less survivor that is not on a generator. Maybe it needs to be changed a bit...remove the item use buff but the speed is great to keep it.

3. Looping is bad. I want a survivor to escape. Part of the fun of this game is the chase and sure I may get triggered if I lose someone, but that is part of the game, but we cannot remove looping until we have something else in place to allow the game to progress. I would love different obstacles. Maybe things survivors can slide/roll under, but we definitely need more things to break the line of site. The Corn in Coldwind is great, the tall cars in Autohaven make the line of site breakers. The more unique line of site breakers would be a huge improvement. The other thing is maybe making the maps auto-populate. Keep the key buildings there, but don't make the maps as memorizable so I know that if I turn this corner I know pallet X is here, and window is to the left. Lery's has too many windows so even generating a random boarding window feature would be great. Just something to mix up my chases a bit.

4. I like the Nurse, I don't play her, but I like her. However, the reason she is as powerful as she is is that she breaks the core escape mechanics of the survivors. The pallet drops and the looping jukes. I love her ability. I think that if the maps are changed and fewer opportunities to the loop are improved then she can have some minor adjustments. Maybe get rid of the multiple blink add-ons and make it somehow that she cannot move through something...Could be wood, could be pallets. Just something to add a bit of a challenge to her, but allows the survivors an honest chance to escape besides running back into her pathing.

5. When I play survivor for dailies I hate doing generators. That said I am not good at looping etc. I would hate for Generators to take longer. It is some of the most boring parts of this game. Now, that said there could be the killer a perk that shows if 2 or more survivors are on the same generator. Maybe a glow maybe White in color from anywhere on the map. This would prevent some "gen rushing" (I hate the term - this is the survivor's objective in the game) but it may make camping a better strat for some killers if they ran this perk. I hate ruin, but I see it is valuable to players. I think ruin is enough, but they really need to fix the hex system. I would like the killer to get stacks based on the hex perks they run, they can see the hexes and like the trapper/hag they can light the hexes as they choose. They could run ruin last they could run it first thing. It is up to them. NOED would be the only one that they don't control. Once the hexes are placed they lose the ability to see the hexes.

6. SWF is fine. I was playing before SWF was a thing and lobbies were terrible. It would also kill the game. There does need to be something to repair the game though that has never been implemented. I say repair because this game was built with survivors having very limited knowledge of the others. There is a major reason there is no voice chat built into the game. So one adjustment I would make is that until the Killer is back in the endgame lobby all his perks are completely invisible to survivors. This prevents that information being spread to teammates and placing the killer at less of an advantage and rendering a perk like NOED or Blood Warden almost useless. I also suggested a 5th perk for SWF teams. When triggered it would not alert the killer (maybe even not alerting the killer post game), but allows killers to select from 1 of 5 predefined, NOT TEACHABLE, NOT AVAILABLE IN BLOODWEB perks that are just given to each player. Those were things like A BP multiplier, something to randomly reduce pallets, or increase blocked windows, generator regression (when kicked) by 5-10%...etc. Things that a killer/survivor will not notice drastic changes to know there is a SWF Team.

So while some Killers may make these requests, please remember for the past 12-18 months killers have been stomped on by survivors. Killers were just not intimidating enough so survivors would flashlight save, pallet slam, and not be concerned about doing their objective basically bullied. I understand many of the arguments - discussions, but remember, many survivor requests have been met.

@chemical_reject said:
Nightmare247 said:

@Vietfox said:

1 - remove the hatch

2 - nerf ds, sc

3 - nerf looping

4 - make other killers as powerful as (or close to) the nurse.

5 - make gens to take longer to repair (or gather pieces to repair them)

6 - remove SWF

Don't you see a big flaw if all of these ideas became real?

I personally find it funny when someone asks for all this and yet makes fun of survivors by saying they want ez matches.

PS: feel free to add more of these suggestions if you think they have been proposed often.

Disclaimer: i've already said that swf needs a especial treatment and some small tweaks would be needed in the game.

Let me tell it to you straight as a Killer main...Also as someone who has time in this game and understands both sides.

* The Hatch is broken, no doubt about that. There would not be 3+ hour standoffs (according to some people) if it was not. There needs to be a mechanic in place to fix this. I am not sure what that is though. I liked the idea of closing the hatch, but I don't like the fact that you have to complete a generator to reopen it. Being a Killer, I think the person who holds the power should not be the survivor in this case. I am the big bad scary guy who holds the weapon, I theoretically should win. With that said I completely understand teammates who all die and that is your only escape for the hope that fits in the lore. You are a survivor being punished for others not doing well. What if there is a mechanic that is a grab only action in the hatch area (2m maybe slightly larger) that the killer wants to give the survivor a fighting chance and puts the weapon and skills away. The killer can only grab, but no survivor animation for jumping into the hatch is needed. The killer can grab without downing the survivor but gets to go carry the survivor to the hook. On the other hand, a skill check pops up on the Survivors end with a very narrow hitbox (remember you should be afraid you are staring the killer down) to dodge and escape. All other play is normal. This should give both sides a fair opportunity.

• DS - The get out of Jail free pass does need to be nerfed. I really did enjoy the suggested changes to DS and would like to see that made. (Basically, DS could be run as many times as you like, but doing so puts you in an unhealable injured state). I think this would be an interesting change, but I am unsure how this would impact both sides. The other thing it could do is just stun a killer in place with the survivor on the shoulder. This could allow the survivor to escape and could be used multiple times too, but not an instant escape. It would increase the use of Iron Grasp or Agitation for Killers but would be a different idea for DS altogether.

SC- Don't touch this at all. It is a great perk it is fine the way it is. They do need to get rid of instant heal add-ons for medkits, but that is a different discussion. SC is a delay. If a survivor is using SC and healing themselves that is one less survivor that is not on a generator. Maybe it needs to be changed a bit...remove the item use buff but the speed is great to keep it.

• Looping is bad. I want a survivor to escape. Part of the fun of this game is the chase and sure I may get triggered if I lose someone, but that is part of the game, but we cannot remove looping until we have something else in place to allow the game to progress. I would love different obstacles. Maybe things survivors can slide/roll under, but we definitely need more things to break the line of site. The Corn in Coldwind is great, the tall cars in Autohaven make the line of site breakers. The more unique line of site breakers would be a huge improvement. The other thing is maybe making the maps auto-populate. Keep the key buildings there, but don't make the maps as memorizable so I know that if I turn this corner I know pallet X is here, and window is to the left. Lery's has too many windows so even generating a random boarding window feature would be great. Just something to mix up my chases a bit.

• I like the Nurse, I don't play her, but I like her. However, the reason she is as powerful as she is is that she breaks the core escape mechanics of the survivors. The pallet drops and the looping jukes. I love her ability. I think that if the maps are changed and fewer opportunities to the loop are improved then she can have some minor adjustments. Maybe get rid of the multiple blink add-ons and make it somehow that she cannot move through something...Could be wood, could be pallets. Just something to add a bit of a challenge to her, but allows the survivors an honest chance to escape besides running back into her pathing.

• When I play survivor for dailies I hate doing generators. That said I am not good at looping etc. I would hate for Generators to take longer. It is some of the most boring parts of this game. Now, that said there could be the killer a perk that shows if 2 or more survivors are on the same generator. Maybe a glow maybe White in color from anywhere on the map. This would prevent some "gen rushing" (I hate the term - this is the survivor's objective in the game) but it may make camping a better strat for some killers if they ran this perk. I hate ruin, but I see it is valuable to players. I think ruin is enough, but they really need to fix the hex system. I would like the killer to get stacks based on the hex perks they run, they can see the hexes and like the trapper/hag they can light the hexes as they choose. They could run ruin last they could run it first thing. It is up to them. NOED would be the only one that they don't control. Once the hexes are placed they lose the ability to see the hexes.

• SWF is fine. I was playing before SWF was a thing and lobbies were terrible. It would also kill the game. There does need to be something to repair the game though that has never been implemented. I say repair because this game was built with survivors having very limited knowledge of the others. There is a major reason there is no voice chat built into the game. So one adjustment I would make is that until the Killer is back in the endgame lobby all his perks are completely invisible to survivors. This prevents that information being spread to teammates and placing the killer at less of an advantage and rendering a perk like NOED or Blood Warden almost useless. I also suggested a 5th perk for SWF teams. When triggered it would not alert the killer (maybe even not alerting the killer post game), but allows killers to select from 1 of 5 predefined, NOT TEACHABLE, NOT AVAILABLE IN BLOODWEB perks that are just given to each player. Those were things like A BP multiplier, something to randomly reduce pallets, or increase blocked windows, generator regression (when kicked) by 5-10%...etc. Things that a killer/survivor will not notice drastic changes to know there is a SWF Team.

  So while some Killers may make these requests, please remember for the past 12-18 months killers have been stomped on by survivors. Killers were just not intimidating enough so survivors would flashlight save, pallet slam, and not be concerned about doing their objective basically bullied. I understand many of the arguments - discussions, but remember, many survivor requests have been met.

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Commenting to increase you comment number much? Don't care much.

Survivors get mad when ever i bring up them review bombing and they each as survivor main i met has said "yea but i never review bombed the game" so going by your own logic please dont group every killer with what a few say or do