Any plans to remove the locker + DS tech?

Nice bait.

Its 60 seconds to a killer. From the killers perspetive this in a very long time. Enough time for two gens to pop. This is how long that is.

Most of the time i have hooked somebody else in that time so tell me why you should still have the DS in this case? I did not tunnel you and you healed and are back on gens so why should you still have use of it?

DS is broken at the moment. And it is being abused.

And let them have ds for the endgame? Nah im gonna open it and eat it then catch up to you with my super speed chainsaw and down you again and put you right back on that hook. (Wonder why survivors want billy nerfed maybe because hes one of the only killers who doesnt care about ds)

Also let me remind you survivors complained about nemesis legion yet nemesis only activated when you stunned legion. So what did we killers say? Pre pallet. But no that wasnt good enough survivors had to get their way and now deep wound doesnt mean shiet. And hex ruin? Just find the totem. nerfed anyway because of survivors. So killers are the only ones who should adapt?

There is a big difference if you don't pick them up after downing them.

The only way DS feels useful now it's in the endgame or if the whole team has it (which for me it's rare). Is it abusable? definitely but is much more counterable now than pre-nerf DS. That ######### to this day gives me nightmares XD.

I agree that the devs should make the change on only one person able to have it Or maybe make the timer go out much faster when another survivor goes on hook. DS is FAR away from being broken compared to the old version.

Leaving them on the ground still creates pressure and another survivor will have to stop what they are doing to pick them up so you'll have two survivors that are currently not doing gens (three if you find someone else).

If you leave them in the locker, they can leave said locker and go on to a gen immediately so potentially all survivors will be doing gens until you find somebody else.

As you can see...there is indeed a big difference.

Anti-tunnel type perks like DS exist for the very reason of how you decided to play as killer. Take the stun and waste more of your time, or be much more productive and find someone else. Done deal.

Even with no mither there is a difference. The survivor still has to spend 30 seconds to recover compared to immediately being able to leave the locker.

You can't win the argument for a DS change against people who have never been on the killer side with

Squad of identical people and you don't know who you are chasing.

Someone getting off the hook, pointing at you, then hopping in a locker in your face.

Someone repeatedly getting in and out of a locker over and over and over with loud noise notifications just to annoy you because you can't do anything about it.

Bodyblocking to use a BT hit, which then makes them the target of a chase, only to hop in a locker because you can't open it for a minute. So why not.

The problem isn't tunneling. The problem is the ability to abuse the perk despite what the killer does. Sure it fixed tunneling. But it causes other issues.

The solution? IDK. But it should fix tunneling without allowing bullying.

The perk description currently could be "do whatever you want for 90 seconds. As long as you are near a locker the killer will ignore you or you can stun him"

Which translates to

"You can be a prick in the killers face for about 80 seconds. As long as you are near a locker, the killer will ignore you or you can stun him to further your trolling"

It's just not fun on the killer side.

All of this from an ex-red-rank-killer-main who is now a current-red-rank-survivor-main and I run DS every game lol. It's fun for survivors to have power like that. It's not fun for killer.

But again. You won't win the argument. Nobody wants to give away their fun in order to fix something that's broken for someone else. Good try though. I commend the effort.

What's is your definition of an anti tunneling perk?

Hey letsplaytogether for being around so long you should know unbreakable exists. Getting slugged? Just pick yourself up and run. ######### survivor mains forget how many second chances they have.

You force a killer to follow you (tunneling) to a locker and open it or stand there? Interesting view.

Most killers would, idk, just not follow you? And if they see you get in a locker, idk, ######### off and find someone else?

I didnt know you could FORCE killers to open lockers. I'm gonna have to try that.

Well, GOOD survivors lol. Or greedy ones. I mean it IS 1k bp for a dull.

Yep, that's a point. Choice is you lose more or you lose less. In the end it's still a lose - lose, and that's what kinda sucks about it.