Players leave the match during loading if they see mori.

They do. They depend on how quickly you can down, hook, and redown someone, before the survivors can finish their gens.

Killers do not hesitate to dodge supposed SWFs, keys, Blendettes, flashlights, even tool boxes... The killers choose their game, the survivors too. Fair.

I agree with the Moris and keys nerf. Agree that the secret offerings are really secret, and agree that the items, nicknames, Steam profile are also secret.

test it

That Leads to nerfs. Killers nerfs most of the time so i would rather people be punished for doing it.

Yes killers have been been getting the nerf bat and unlike survivors when something killer has gets nerfed it becomes not just useless but unfun.

And I will agree in that same situation. As a killer when I see a key is in a game. I have two options Franklin demise or prevent x amount of generators from being done.

I PERSONALLY do not have a problem with Moris or Keys. And I don't if either got nerf.

You say it: the Mori indeed reduces the difficulty of the objective of the killer. The key too.

Surviving by hiding all the time that 3 other survivors die (so the killer is far from being to complain) is far from doing absolutely nothing. I invite you to try. Camping and tunneling are legitimate strategies, even with a Mori, not taking a risk by having a key in order to escape by the hatch is just as legitimate.

Yes, the key is an advantage. Here, it allows a single survivor to escape, if he survives the longest and finds the hatch. It doesn't seem so unfair to me knowing that the killer has already killed 3 other survivors. Why would the killer necessarily deserve 4k if the 3 other survivors have already been killed? Do all the survivors necessarily deserve to escape if they have repaired 5 generators?

The Mori is useful against any survivor, all the time, allows a huge snowball unlike a key, is invisible in the lobby unlike a key. And unlike Mori, a key can be lost because of a perk that the killer can choose to use specifically if he sees a key...

For me, it's incomparable, and certainly not in favor of the key.

you currently get 4k ez without the need for mori in 99% of the games if you play for 4k

It's a simple solution, make all offerings except for BPS/Event Cakes secret. Then survivors don't know if it's an ebony mori or just offering for extra BP in hunting. Killers don't know if they're getting sent to map they hate or survivor wants some extra BP in survival.

Personally as a killer, I saw a change suggestion a while back that I kind of liked. It is by no means perfect but it would be an improvement. Ofc if they ever did this change to moris I would still want keys to be nerfed, either to only allow one person to escape before closing or or to have a channel time so players at least cant just insta open in a chase.

Essentially it would be to make yellow moris part of every killers kit or something to that effect and make ebony mori work like green mori now. So that yes you can remove 1 player fast, but you cant remove every player in the game after 1 hook. A different change was that the moris just only worked based on how far into the game you were. As in, how many gens were done. 5 gens left? no mori. 4 gens left, maybe 1 mori. 2 gens left. 2 mori. 1-0 the remaining moris. At least then part of the game would still be going on without moris killing everyone. Sure survivors could potentially 99% gens. But that would be difficult and a return to an old meta.

People are saying keys and moris arent the same. They are tho. Because this isn't a 1v1, its a 1v4. So the key should be a bit weaker than the mori. But to the killer its as painful to deal with. Because everyone can pick it up or bring one. So if only 2 gens get done, 1 survivor har the possibility of an escape, even if the killer closes the hatch. 3 gens 2 survivors and so on. You only have to complete 40% of your objective to escape the match as a solo player if the entire team gets killed. Where as the killer still has to have 2 downs instead of 3 downs, to mori. Ofc he skips desicive strike and a lot of potential time on the second hook. But honestly I think if people suspect a mori they should run as far away from the map area that the killer was in. And if they see that he does have a mori, then let survivors stay on hooks through more than one phase since they will die from one more down anyway. Is it fun? Ofc not. But neither are keys.

Killer games can be or rather usually are stressfull since its all on you instead of your team. But thats ok for me at least, because I usually like that feeling. But the game becomes so much more stressful with a key and you almost get "nam flashbacks" when you see one, to all the times survivors have escaped thanks to keys when most of them should have died. I can remember so many times when 3 survivors who were all on death hook just jump into a hatch because someone brought a key or was lucky and found one.

So to minimize the stress, I bring a green mori (ebony mori if I see that they are swf) just to remove the threat as fast as possible. And then play the game normally.

It can be boiled down to. Bring key, expect mori. And unless you have played a ton of killer you really dont get to argue that point.

This is why I had the idea to make every Killer Offering secret, except BP Offerings. So no one DCs because the Killer chose a specific map or a Mori. Else I would give a time-out for using a mori right after unhook, or - like you said - only usable after 2nd hook.