Maps and the possibility to play on them
To be honest, there are too many games on 3 original realms (plus Swamp maps), and not enough games on 1 map realms.
So right now we have a X chance to get Grim Pantry map, X chance to get the Pale Rose map, X chance to get Rancid Abbatoir map, X chance to get Red Forest map etc. All maps have the same % value to get chosen. The problem is, that 1 map realms, like Family Residence, Lery's, or The Game have smaller chance to be chosen, and realms like Swamp or Farm have x2/x3 bigger chances to be chosen.
My proposition is to give the same amount of % to the REALMS, not the separate maps, so for example there would be X chance to get a map from the Farm realm, X chance to get Lery's, X chance to get Family Residence etc, so we could see more games on 1 map realms.
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I agree,. it would be nice to not play the farm or autoheaven 3 games in a row. The original realms also contain some of the worst map design in the game.
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I agree to an extent but then you get times where it's non stop gion's or Lery's in the map rotation. The same is true with other maps thy get a spam rotation each day it seems.
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I got to play on the new map 5 times in a row earlier today. I tend to find that with the rng I can have a few of the same maps in a row for example one of the Coldwind Farm realms. I'd be quite happy if that didn't happen with the swamp though
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@MandyTalk said:
I got to play on the new map 5 times in a row earlier today. I tend to find that with the rng I can have a few of the same maps in a row for example one of the Coldwind Farm realms. I'd be quite happy if that didn't happen with the swamp thoughI've played only once on the new map since the release, and I've been playing this game for like 30-40 hours from then, or even more. Probably more.
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@RSB prior to today I've played it only once since release! For some reason today, 5 times in a row :shrug:
(I want more emotes here!).
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@MandyTalk said:
@RSB prior to today I've played it only once since release! For some reason today, 5 times in a row :shrug:(I want more emotes here!).
Just RNG. Sad, because new map is awesome for Wraith. All I see are Farm, Swamp and Azarov's maps... Also the Trapper ones sometimes. It is quite sad, because the other maps are far better in my opinion.
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The new map is truly beautiful to look at, I love the detail with the buildings etc.
I could live without playing the swamp again I must admit, I don't enjoy it as either a survivor or killer, purely for the aesthetics of it.
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@MandyTalk said:
The new map is truly beautiful to look at, I love the detail with the buildings etc.I could live without playing the swamp again I must admit, I don't enjoy it as either a survivor or killer, purely for the aesthetics of it.
Swamp are the worst maps in this game, as well as Farm maps, even Palletheaven is better, and that's something.
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I struggle with Farm maps, because I am totally corn blind - I swear I am the only survivor who can't even see the Trapper in the corn. No kidding, it is really difficult for me.
And if I'm playing Killer and it's a farm map then it's pretty much instantly GG, I really do struggle.
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@MandyTalk said:
I struggle with Farm maps, because I am totally corn blind - I swear I am the only survivor who can't even see the Trapper in the corn. No kidding, it is really difficult for me.And if I'm playing Killer and it's a farm map then it's pretty much instantly GG, I really do struggle.
I stopped maining Nurse because of Farm maps lol, corn really killed me then.
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@RSB said:
To be honest, there are too many games on 3 original realms (plus Swamp maps), and not enough games on 1 map realms.So right now we have a X chance to get Grim Pantry map, X chance to get the Pale Rose map, X chance to get Rancid Abbatoir map, X chance to get Red Forest map etc. All maps have the same % value to get chosen. The problem is, that 1 map realms, like Family Residence, Lery's, or The Game have smaller chance to be chosen, and realms like Swamp or Farm have x2/x3 bigger chances to be chosen.
My proposition is to give the same amount of % to the REALMS, not the separate maps, so for example there would be X chance to get a map from the Farm realm, X chance to get Lery's, X chance to get Family Residence etc, so we could see more games on 1 map realms.
An idea I suggested earlier was to allow the killer to choose a realm they wish to go to in the lobby and the realm is shown to the survivors. The survivors could then use a realm offering to "veto" the killer's suggestion, or the killer could use a realm offering to try to ensure their realm is chosen.
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Effectively we have a form of that now with the offering system which I must admit I rarely see being used in matches, mostly I see the extra bloodpoints offerings being used. Maybe the realms could be separate offerings that are used as well as the regular offerings - so all 5 people have the chance to put a realm offering as well, but again I can see that being quite survivor sided as there is 4 of them to the killers 1. So probably RNG at the end of the day is the fairest option.
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@MandyTalk
What I am thinking of is the killer's realm suggestion (KRS) is worth 2 votes. Green realm offerings (GRO) would also be worth 2 votes, and would only spawn in a killer's blood web (giving the killer a total of 4 votes). Yellow realm offerings (YRO) would make a return and would only spawn in a survivor's blood web and is worth 1 vote. This will produce a system where there are 8 total votes, and survivors would have to really coordinate in order to contest the killer's choice.KRS + 0 GRO + 0 YRO = 100% Killer/0% Survivor
KRS + 0 GRO + 1 YRO = 67% Killer/33% Survivor
KRS + 0 GRO + 2 YRO = 50% Killer/50% Survivor
KRS + 0 GRO + 3 YRO = 40% Killer/60% Survivor
KRS + 0 GRO + 4 YRO = 33% Killer/67% Survivor
KRS + 1 GRO + 0 YRO = 100% Killer/0 % Survivor
KRS + 1 GRO + 1 YRO = 80% Killer/20% Survivor
KRS + 1 GRO + 2 YRO = 67% Killer/37% Survivor
KRS + 1 GRO + 3 YRO = 57% Killer/43% Survivor
KRS + 1 GRO + 4 YRO = 50% Killer/50% Survivor0 -
@MandyTalk said:
Effectively we have a form of that now with the offering system which I must admit I rarely see being used in matches, mostly I see the extra bloodpoints offerings being used. Maybe the realms could be separate offerings that are used as well as the regular offerings - so all 5 people have the chance to put a realm offering as well, but again I can see that being quite survivor sided as there is 4 of them to the killers 1. So probably RNG at the end of the day is the fairest option.Realm offerings are not fair, to be honest. There are 4 survivors and one killer, so killer can be outvoted 4 to 1. And we must remember, that there are some maps that highly favors survivors.
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I completely agree. It needs to pick from the realms, then if that realm has more than one map in it, it should then pick from that realms pool. I also think current realms with only one map should get another one. I know it's a significant time investment from the devs but some of the single map realms could have interesting concepts that would make excellent maps.0
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@shadowsfall42 said:
I completely agree. It needs to pick from the realms, then if that realm has more than one map in it, it should then pick from that realms pool. I also think current realms with only one map should get another one. I know it's a significant time investment from the devs but some of the single map realms could have interesting concepts that would make excellent maps.Agreed, now we play only on the 4 realms with the most maps - Wrecker Yard, Swamp, Farm and Evan ones, which is plain boring. I do not remember the last time I played on the new map, Game, or even the Clown one.
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