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Maps and the possibility to play on them

To be honest, there are too many games on 3 original realms (plus Swamp maps), and not enough games on 1 map realms.

So right now we have a X chance to get Grim Pantry map, X chance to get the Pale Rose map, X chance to get Rancid Abbatoir map, X chance to get Red Forest map etc. All maps have the same % value to get chosen. The problem is, that 1 map realms, like Family Residence, Lery's, or The Game have smaller chance to be chosen, and realms like Swamp or Farm have x2/x3 bigger chances to be chosen.

My proposition is to give the same amount of % to the REALMS, not the separate maps, so for example there would be X chance to get a map from the Farm realm, X chance to get Lery's, X chance to get Family Residence etc, so we could see more games on 1 map realms.

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  • Frugl1
    Frugl1 Member Posts: 72

    I agree,. it would be nice to not play the farm or autoheaven 3 games in a row. The original realms also contain some of the worst map design in the game.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I agree to an extent but then you get times where it's non stop gion's or Lery's in the map rotation. The same is true with other maps thy get a spam rotation each day it seems.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,937

    I got to play on the new map 5 times in a row earlier today. I tend to find that with the rng I can have a few of the same maps in a row for example one of the Coldwind Farm realms. I'd be quite happy if that didn't happen with the swamp though :)

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MandyTalk said:
    I got to play on the new map 5 times in a row earlier today. I tend to find that with the rng I can have a few of the same maps in a row for example one of the Coldwind Farm realms. I'd be quite happy if that didn't happen with the swamp though :)

    I've played only once on the new map since the release, and I've been playing this game for like 30-40 hours from then, or even more. Probably more.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,937

    @RSB prior to today I've played it only once since release! For some reason today, 5 times in a row :shrug:

    (I want more emotes here!).

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MandyTalk said:
    @RSB prior to today I've played it only once since release! For some reason today, 5 times in a row :shrug:

    (I want more emotes here!).

    Just RNG. Sad, because new map is awesome for Wraith. All I see are Farm, Swamp and Azarov's maps... Also the Trapper ones sometimes. It is quite sad, because the other maps are far better in my opinion.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,937

    The new map is truly beautiful to look at, I love the detail with the buildings etc.

    I could live without playing the swamp again I must admit, I don't enjoy it as either a survivor or killer, purely for the aesthetics of it.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MandyTalk said:
    The new map is truly beautiful to look at, I love the detail with the buildings etc.

    I could live without playing the swamp again I must admit, I don't enjoy it as either a survivor or killer, purely for the aesthetics of it.

    Swamp are the worst maps in this game, as well as Farm maps, even Palletheaven is better, and that's something.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,937
    edited September 2018

    I struggle with Farm maps, because I am totally corn blind - I swear I am the only survivor who can't even see the Trapper in the corn. No kidding, it is really difficult for me.

    And if I'm playing Killer and it's a farm map then it's pretty much instantly GG, I really do struggle.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MandyTalk said:
    I struggle with Farm maps, because I am totally corn blind - I swear I am the only survivor who can't even see the Trapper in the corn. No kidding, it is really difficult for me.

    And if I'm playing Killer and it's a farm map then it's pretty much instantly GG, I really do struggle.

    I stopped maining Nurse because of Farm maps lol, corn really killed me then.

  • CoolAKn
    CoolAKn Member Posts: 677

    @MandyTalk

    @RSB said:
    To be honest, there are too many games on 3 original realms (plus Swamp maps), and not enough games on 1 map realms.

    So right now we have a X chance to get Grim Pantry map, X chance to get the Pale Rose map, X chance to get Rancid Abbatoir map, X chance to get Red Forest map etc. All maps have the same % value to get chosen. The problem is, that 1 map realms, like Family Residence, Lery's, or The Game have smaller chance to be chosen, and realms like Swamp or Farm have x2/x3 bigger chances to be chosen.

    My proposition is to give the same amount of % to the REALMS, not the separate maps, so for example there would be X chance to get a map from the Farm realm, X chance to get Lery's, X chance to get Family Residence etc, so we could see more games on 1 map realms.

    An idea I suggested earlier was to allow the killer to choose a realm they wish to go to in the lobby and the realm is shown to the survivors. The survivors could then use a realm offering to "veto" the killer's suggestion, or the killer could use a realm offering to try to ensure their realm is chosen.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,937

    Effectively we have a form of that now with the offering system which I must admit I rarely see being used in matches, mostly I see the extra bloodpoints offerings being used. Maybe the realms could be separate offerings that are used as well as the regular offerings - so all 5 people have the chance to put a realm offering as well, but again I can see that being quite survivor sided as there is 4 of them to the killers 1. So probably RNG at the end of the day is the fairest option.

  • CoolAKn
    CoolAKn Member Posts: 677
    edited September 2018

    @MandyTalk
    What I am thinking of is the killer's realm suggestion (KRS) is worth 2 votes. Green realm offerings (GRO) would also be worth 2 votes, and would only spawn in a killer's blood web (giving the killer a total of 4 votes). Yellow realm offerings (YRO) would make a return and would only spawn in a survivor's blood web and is worth 1 vote. This will produce a system where there are 8 total votes, and survivors would have to really coordinate in order to contest the killer's choice.

    KRS + 0 GRO + 0 YRO = 100% Killer/0% Survivor
    KRS + 0 GRO + 1 YRO = 67% Killer/33% Survivor
    KRS + 0 GRO + 2 YRO = 50% Killer/50% Survivor
    KRS + 0 GRO + 3 YRO = 40% Killer/60% Survivor
    KRS + 0 GRO + 4 YRO = 33% Killer/67% Survivor
    KRS + 1 GRO + 0 YRO = 100% Killer/0 % Survivor
    KRS + 1 GRO + 1 YRO = 80% Killer/20% Survivor
    KRS + 1 GRO + 2 YRO = 67% Killer/37% Survivor
    KRS + 1 GRO + 3 YRO = 57% Killer/43% Survivor
    KRS + 1 GRO + 4 YRO = 50% Killer/50% Survivor

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MandyTalk said:
    Effectively we have a form of that now with the offering system which I must admit I rarely see being used in matches, mostly I see the extra bloodpoints offerings being used. Maybe the realms could be separate offerings that are used as well as the regular offerings - so all 5 people have the chance to put a realm offering as well, but again I can see that being quite survivor sided as there is 4 of them to the killers 1. So probably RNG at the end of the day is the fairest option.

    Realm offerings are not fair, to be honest. There are 4 survivors and one killer, so killer can be outvoted 4 to 1. And we must remember, that there are some maps that highly favors survivors.

  • shadowsfall42
    shadowsfall42 Member Posts: 201
    I completely agree. It needs to pick from the realms, then if that realm has more than one map in it, it should then pick from that realms pool. I also think current realms with only one map should get another one. I know it's a significant time investment from the devs but some of the single map realms could have interesting concepts that would make excellent maps.
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @shadowsfall42 said:
    I completely agree. It needs to pick from the realms, then if that realm has more than one map in it, it should then pick from that realms pool. I also think current realms with only one map should get another one. I know it's a significant time investment from the devs but some of the single map realms could have interesting concepts that would make excellent maps.

    Agreed, now we play only on the 4 realms with the most maps - Wrecker Yard, Swamp, Farm and Evan ones, which is plain boring. I do not remember the last time I played on the new map, Game, or even the Clown one.