Will Pgtw receive the ruin treatment?

But if you're not using the perk, then the perk is going to waste. But if you just use the perk on the first gen you find because you are strapped for time, then the perk is going to waste as well in a different way. That was the problem with the old Pop: More often than not, the perk was wasted either because you ran out of time to find something good to kick or because you resigned yourself to inefficiently using it before the timer ran out. 30 seconds was not enough time to reliably make good use of it.

And the way you describe it? I want the second one. I want to control an area that I am at risk of losing so I can potentially gain it back.

I'd say that is not necessarily true, depending on the situation.

I hope not, PGTW rewards the player for doing well and hooking a survivor compared to ruin which was "oh cool you equipped me". Pop is quite literally the only good gen regression perk left in the game, and most mid to low tier killers in high ranks NEED it in order to consistently do well. Unless they buffed most killers to compensate or a new good regression perk is added, I think the community would lose their #########. Because the ruin nerf made sense, while it sucked and most players needed to adjust to play without it, there was a concrete understandable reason for the nerf, if Pop got nerfed it would just be a kick in the nuts at this point.

I don’t understand why people miss this as it’s so obvious. Exactly my thoughts on this.

I mean what would the skill check represent? The Killer is just whacking the gen the same way they always do.

I think it's potentially stupidly strong, but you can only use it 12 times potentially, so it has a finite use(albeit that its final use the game is already over). But I think limiting it in some way, like adding a cooldown timer to it, would discourage killers from hooking so they can use it, pushing towards the late game, giving up gens because they can't use the perk...

I dunno, it's something that would need to be continuously tested for a while to really see how it would affect games. It's really strong when you get hooks back to back to back, just keep popping generators and refreshing pop. But it's basically useless if you only manage to hook a couple people throughout the game. I guess it's dependent on experience and feast or famine.

No.

Ruin was changed, due to its inconsistency not only throughout a single trial, but between the ranks aswell.

old Ruin was quite literally 100% RNG reliable to even take effect when it was active and it harshly punished Survivors who were newer to the game, while basically having no effect on high level players who could hit their greats consistently.

PGTW on the other hand is the definition of a consistent, reliable perk. it can not be taken away from the killer, the killer can control when and where he wishes it to take effect and it actively rewards good and skillfull gameplay.

there is nothing inconsistent about this perk that COULD be changed

also, the new Ruin is a lot more consistent and, just like PGTW actively rewards good players who can force Survivors off of gens. it is - in my opinion - a lot better than its previous version, due to its now existing consistency. consistency is a key factor in DbDs gameplay, inconsistent things usually end up not standing a chance in high level play - just like old Ruin.

I mean it is BHVR so you never know

I highly doubt Pop will get nerfed. Also, new Ruin is quite good. Prioritizing gens and pressuring people off them is absolutely devastating when Ruin is up.

By that logic they should nerf the doctor. 3/4 his kit does everything for you.

How difficult

God, I hope not.

I agree actually, but many people liked the original and the amount of player input is not a good excuse for the change seeing that there are many useful things in the game that require little to no player input to achieve good results.

Survivors recently got a perk to counter Pgtw with Cheryl Mason, the one you can block the gen with. Leave it alone. If we gonna talk about perks that are being used 'too much' what about Adrenaline, Descicive, Bbq Chilli, Dead Hard, and all the other 'crutch' meta perks?

Sorry but if you change perks because people use them too much you should probably question your capabilities of actually creating good balanced perks, instead of just making stuff up to take a step back and cover your mistakes.

Ruin had pretty much no effect on experienced players. The only people it harmed were newbies.

Right, I wasn't saying you were wrong. But you were making it sound like you thought op was asking for a nerf, and suggested a counter to it.