SWF keep ruining my killer matches, we need a way to identify them in lobby

It's not a SWF problem. The game gives you no indication in the lobby about playstyle intent. There's a huge difference between casual players and competitive players of the same rank, but the game makes no distinction. And because the drop-off between good killers/perks and the rest of the killers/perks is so massive, you can lose a game from the loadout screen.

I can and have 2k-4k'd some of the best teams in the world, but I knew I was about to face them in a competitive setting. I have the skills, but if I'm locked in a lobby as Clown against a 10k hr competitive 4 man I haven't seen before and I don't take a super meta build, I will 100% lose before I even load in. That goes for any player.

I get why labeling SWFs is a terrible idea and I wouldn't want that. But you need to give players SOME indicator as to what they're walking into if you're going to have 75% of your killer roster be meme-tier against the best players while also locking people into killer choice in the lobby.

I don't understand how these 4-man SWFs have fun trying to get the gens done in 3 minutes flat and escape. I was playing Clown yesterday against a team that was acting like it was the championship round of Major League Gaming. 3 gens popped before I even had the first guy down. One more hook, and one more gen popped. I just tunneled the last guy unhooked to try to get one kill. I had to wait out their DS/Unbreakable/Soul Guard (three people were running this exact build) but then I was able to parlay that into a 4k because they all rushed right at me to try to save them from death. I can't believe teams this sweaty exist

Since SWF is in essence, a buff to survivors I think it's only logical to implement a system that boosts the killer's stats per person. 2 SWFs=2% speed boost, 5% gen regression per kick etc. 3 SWFs=4% speed boost, 10% gen regression per kick etc. 4 SWFs=6% speed boost, 15% gen regression perk kick etc.

I think you're right that people overestimate how many SWF groups they're going against, and that we can't always know for sure. But there are times you can tell, and it's especially easy to tell when they're being toxic, because they swarm you as a group for the whole entire match, in a way that solo players would never do.

Honestly, I think the more toxic and aggressive the SWF is, the easier it is to know for sure that they're SWF, and that might be part of the reason SWF has such a bad reputation. If we could see who was SWF and who wasn't, it might reveal that there are lots of SWF we never knew about who play a normal game.

That's straight cap swf lobbies a good majority of the time is sweat asf and you get bullied if your not ready for it so having a small indicator would be nice i don't play a lot but recently i have been and I've been getting trolled and bullied in most of my swf lobbies, im not the best and i don't got the perks and "get better" aint that simple when you "suck" and continue to get placed in with rank 12345 swf ect running toxic #########. Sometimes you get punished for mistakes and get rolled and smoked thats okay but when it's a really good majority of your games it's pretty frustrating and demotivating

Run no one escapes death and if they win and they don't know where the ruin is they will usually bail. Saves heaps of time at the where they try to save their buddy...

I try to find the least skilled player and tunnel them slowly kill em one by one, if they are not elite players, usually they all split and do gens then can't do much about that, then hide in lockers when you come past, should be an entity block for spamming lockers though both fast and slow opening of lockers for survivors more generous than window vaults but having a game where 1 or more players do this is kinda annoying. Especially in midwich... Although I did have a glitch once in midwich where a guy kept using them and visually he was outside (had him with his arms crossed and floating next to it) of the locker, but probably for him it looked normal, could him and kill him lul...

If they might have DS I'll slug em down and wait. Also slugging usually is a good indicator of SWF same as hooking, just observe how cocky they are. Face camp usually gets em fired up and salty but how is that different from crouching next/near the hook for Dat instant save? If they might have borrowed time hit the person who saved em.

End of the match if I slugged and hooked I'll wait for the hooked people to be sacrificed so that ds and/or unbreakable doesn't save the game. Yes toxic but I do it for the endgame chat (grabs popcorn) especially if they end up wasting my time during the game. Eye for an eye.

I would actually love this to be in the game. This is mostly why I stay away from playing Killer, You get those SWF groups who like to taunt and ruin your fun.

I completely agree. Most people commenting against this play SFW I would imagine. I think we should be given the option because if we care about both sides having fun then the killer is not having fun. I am pretty good as a killer but when your chatting and coordinating its definitely not fair to the killer. Then the popping 3/4 gens in under two mins when your chasing their goat. Sometimes I destroy them because i know they are sfw that will come rescue and troll but sometimes they troll me and escape. It's frustrating and I hate playing killer because it never feels like I'm gonna get a normal match. They should change something that allows you to opt out of going against teams or limit number allowed. I was thinking seperate lobbies for like two player teams because alot of killers don't wanna deal with that and wanna have fun and some killers love playing against teams.

I hear this excuse about SWF all the time, "the majority of SWF are just friends talking to each other" and that's fine, but don't tell me these groups don't also say things like "oh he's chasing me now beside xyz" and things of that nature while they're chatting because of course they are. I'm not saying get rid of SWF all I'm saying is this excuse of "mostly it's just friends chatting" is a poor excuse

Y’all remember that they got rid of showing you other players ranks because people would just leave right? They’re not going to try and give you a reason to leave the lobby. Just something we have to deal with.

I totally get where you're coming from, I'm slightly autistic, and I get really frustrated playing as killer sometimes. But 90% of the time I'm playing SWF with 1 or 2 friends. Like others have said, and like you've admitted yourself, the SWF deathsquads are pretty rare, and punishing survivors simply for wanting to play an online game with their friends is ludicrous. Every single online game I have ever played has players that are toxic little shits, the only way to avoid that is to not play online games at all. People suck mate, and people like you and me will always struggle to understand it. Try not to put pressure on yourself (easier said than done, I know), at the end of the day, you gotta focus on the fact it is just a game, and sometimes people are massive dicks for seemingly no reason.

Here we go again:

SWF was always planned for the game. Yes, it was not a part when the game first launched, but only because they only had time to include one mode - either SWF or KYF. They went for KYF. SWF was not introduced because DBD got reviewbombed or Survivors complained. It was planned from the beginning.

And, lets face it - a game where people play online together in a team without an option to play with friends? In 2016? Come on.

Also, disagree that Killers have to sweat their balls off. Mine are fine.

this is the perfect summary of the hypocrisy in these forums.