Dead Hard, Fair or Unfair?

I see a lot of people using the words “correcting a mistake”. Honestly this is where you lose me, because as an avid Dead Hard user and someone who enjoys engaging in chases, sometimes it isn’t correcting a mistake, it is understanding how the perk works and yes extending the chase in some way. Many of the people who do this know that they could extend the chase at the risk of their Ping being on their side.

It is no different than someone holding (99ing) their SB or someone who has viciously or cautiously been looking out for where they could use their Lithe or BL.

Dead Heard’s distance isn’t worth any value if you are a good killer who will not swing. In a dead zone you will be exactly that... dead. You also have to account for the fact that you can’t dash at a curve, so you have to be very specific about when and how you use it.

I understand not liking it but I don’t agree with some of your points.

Best perk in the game. To be honest, its not a fair perk... it allows for survivors to greed loops often without much of a risk. Allows you to get to window/pallets you wouldn't have made it to otherwise.

Allows you to avoid an otherwise certain blink hit. You can YEET over bear traps, avoid plague (and corrupt plague), huntress, clown and deathslingers projectiles.

You can JUST make it in time for a clutch unhook or JUST make enough distance to get hit out the exit gate.

You can avoid certain hits with dead hard with inexperienced killers who don't expect it. You can use the invulnerability at unsafe dropped pallets (basically force the killer to commit and swing at you, DH and then vault the pallet and gain distance).

Getting farmed? Spam shift + E and the killer might hit the unhooker.

Not to mention, it can be used multiple times in a game.

The best thing about DH is that you can go for silly or otherwise risky plays and still have a backup plan. I won't lie, I use it 99% of the time I play survivor. I feel like I play too safe (and boring) without it.

But It's not fair, no... tbh. Feels so bad playing killer and mindgaming only for them to use DH to gain distance. But as survivor it's amazing.

As a killer main that has dealt with Dead Hard fairly often, I can say that it only extends a chase for a little longer. To counter it just get close wait for them to pop it then hit them. Don't really know what the hype behind it is.

Holding your sprint burst requires you to waste quite a lot of time.

Not every area you are right now has places to use lithe or BL.

Nobody really cares that it's a chase extender (which is every exhaustion perk anyway).

The annoying and kind of unfair thing about dead hard is that you can erase great plays by the killer that weren't easy to do by a simple push of a button.

Imagine you made a great play as survivor and pretty much outplayed the killer but now he has perk that would give him the hit anyway.It would feel pretty unfair right?

I main nurse, so second chance perks don't really bother me much... But I don't think DH is unfair. It gives less distance than the other exhaustion perks, the other ones just feel like an 'Oh, they got away' rather than the immediate denial of a down that dead hard gives. It's the mental planning that it disrupts that really makes people dislike it, but I don't think it's any more oppressive than other exhaustion perks. I'd much rather someone have the predictable dead hard and I can outplay it and hit them a second later, rather than sprint burst which disrupts the entire start of a chase. If they use it for distance, then it's just like any other exhaustion perk. Situational, they had to be in position that would allow them to use it. Good survivors can put themselves in this position often. I've played against a LOT of people who are bad with dead hard, and they basically forfeit a perk slot, or give me hits thinking I won't account for it. Dead hard is hard to outplay against people skilled with it, and that's where the frustration comes in.

@OniWantsYourMacaroni

"The annoying and kind of unfair thing about dead hard is that you can erase great plays by the killer that weren't easy to do by a simple push of a button."

This can literally be said about every exhaust perk. You don't have a pallet but you have a window? You can get away with Lithe. Don't have either but your SB is 99'd? You can go to an area that does.

You can deny that it isn't about extending a chase, but that is exactly what it is about. If you are competent enough you can bait DH out.

Oh and about a killer being able to hit you anyway... you mean kind of how you can't dodge an Oni hit?

You can't compare Dead Hard to the other exhaustion perks at all.

My problem is that you could have made a really good play as killer (like a n awesome hatchet throw,a good curve as billy or a perfectly executed lethal rush as blight) that took a lot of effort to pull off on the killer side but very little effort on the survivor side.

Which is why i don't have any problems with the other exhaustion perks,because they simply aren't as strong as Dead Hard.

Also,you can dodge an Oni hit.It's not easy,sure,but that's how it supposed to be and there are many videos/streams i've seen where people manage to dodge it.

Interesting topic. This perk is unfair in situations when there is nothing you can do to play around it, and it buys survivor team a lot of time, sometimes making difference between win and loss, escape or death for survivors. My biggest problem with it is that not only it cant be counterplayed when its used for distance, but it counters a lot of killers abilities, and skillful plays using that ability just by pressing a single button. It feels extremely cheap in this situations, because there is absolutely nothing you as a killer can do to play around dead hard, and its not a skillful play by survivor either, all you need to do is press a button in a correct timing.

For example Punishment of the Damned is easily avoidable on reaction. There is literally nothing you can do, Dead Hard will always guarantee a survivor one "outplay" over it. I dont play Huntress, but i think same applies to her Hatchet throw? Blights Lethal Rush: in most situations killer wont have another object nearby to bait a deadhard or time/charges to do it, so it will be one free escape for survivor with DH. Hillbillies Chainsaw. DH over Bear Trap. This is probably the most notable killers abilities that are freely dodged by DH.

While DH for distance becomes less relevant the longer the match goes, since there will be less pallets and more deadzones, DH against this killer abilities is always free and easy unpreventable dodge. And its my main problem with this perk, since i main Blight and Pyramid Head. It always feels cheap when i shoudve landed a cool PotD shot, but a survivor just pressed "E" lmao.

And as others said the more survivors have this perk in a match, the more impact it has on the outcome. I lost many matches solely due to Dead Hard, and the time it buys for survivors. No doubt about it. I think if anyone will count how much time he lost due to DH every match, results are gonna be shocking.

@FireHazard

Extending the chase is the purpose of the perk otherwise what is it suppose to do?

I get that you don’t like the perk but it is not as strong or unfair as people think. Not when you can do much more with other perks. At close range this perk shines, at longer range other perks are far better.

If you are whiffing a lot because you can’t bait it out, that’s on you. That’s like saying that just because you whiff at window fake techs it must be broken and survivors shouldn’t be able to keep sliding against the wall.

I’ve had so many people try to use DH mid 360 and fail miserably. It’s really not hard to bait out. Especially when they have nowhere else to go.