Hit Validation Feedback

I notice no difference. I'm almost always around 40 ping. My hits as killer all connect, I still get some weird hits as survivor as I did before, and unfortunately dedicated server nonsense is the same. I vomit on survivors who react as though they're being puked on but stay uninfected, and grabs rarely work.

I'm not sure it's doing anything to be honest. My experience hasn't been worse but I have still noticed killers getting really awkward hits on pallets and windows from time to time. Experience as killer has been the same as far as I can tell too.

It's no better or worse than lag switching in the old p2p system. As others have already said console and killers from other continents get favored with very late and suspicious hits.

i get hits like this a lot. i dont think this should have hit me with a 47 ping (EU servers). the hit doesnt connect at all.

My experience has honestly only been negative. As killer (especially Nurse), a lot of my hits are being completely robbed from me whilst as survivor the experience has, somehow, gotten even worse. Players with bad connection still get hits they shouldn't do, players with good connection are punished moreso than usual and honestly it just feels bad to play.

Thank you for making this thread. I normally play killer, but I also had the opportunity to play a good deal of survivor due to the archives since Hit Validation has been (re-)activated.

TL;DR the mechanics is either not working as intended, or the parameters are so lenient that it might as well being disabled. And by lenient, I mean extremely so.

MY SETUP: I play on PC Steam using an Ethernet cable to my router and I connect to the Frankfurt server. My ping is 32 very stable as both killer and survivor, without packet loss. As a matter of fact, I can hop in a lobby at any time and that’d be my ping. Out of habit, I always check my ping before readying up.

AS KILLER, I really didn’t notice anything besides the usual autoaim aim dressing. I can tell you that I have to play 200% around Dead Hard, because it works perfectly against me, even if I’m against the back of the survivor. I can hardly recall smacking someone and they transition to the floor without animation (i.e. hit through dead hard). However, that was a thing even before hit validation, fwiw.

ABOUT SURVIVOR: you can watch the footage I collected below with some details explained. These are only a few of the most egregious instances I recorded. Considering that we weren’t told exactly how permissive the validation parameters are (i.e. “In situations where the Killer has a poor connection to the server, the server will step in and evaluate their hits to make sure that they are fair”) I didn’t include the usual ‘dedicated hits’ through pallets and windows that I guess everybody is used to. I wanted to show examples where it is absolutely impossible to misconstrue the hits as being ‘fair’, to use the devs’ wording, and yet those hits were being consistently validated. As a matter of fact, I’ve never seen a killer going through the weapon wiping animation without the survivor taking damage since re-activation. Also, Dead Hard exclusively makes me exhausted on the floor cancelling the falling animation, if not used for distance. But that’s hardly breaking news.

NOTES:

·        In no example Coup de Grace was equipped.

·        The killer in the TWINS grab was a streamer from a region away from the server. I’ll leave it at that. I’ve also seen an Australian streamer getting grabbed like that.

·        The Freddy was a crossplay, so it was impossible to determine their area.

·        The Nurse is from an area more than 4800 (yes, four thousand and eight hundred) km away in a straight line from Frankfurt and they should’ve been connected to Indian servers. Their profile is also full of comments referencing hits from afar, so not their first rodeo. During the trial, they also had all sorts of desync issues that go beyond the scope of this thread, such as chain blinking during fatigue.

For reference, this is an example of a killer with excellent ping. No hits after the locker animation is completed, even if in frenzy, that has notoriously wonky hits. They had normal reach on basic M1s and lunges and they didn’t get dedicated hits through pallets.

https://youtu.be/8WOkr8tPABo

In the spoilers there are other examples I saw from content creators.

Hit validation has not worked very well in my experience. Overall i think that the first hit validation test was perfect except for the huntress issue. The hits were always clean, worked against cross-region VPN users, but now they don't. Hits are somewhat sloppy from players in your own server region (depending on killer ping) but acceptable. My main issue is the cross-region VPN players that have a HUGE hit advantage because the hit validation doesn't come into play/work when its 2 different server regions which is ridiculous. I'm not sure why exactly hit validation doesn't work with cross-region VPN players, but its an annoying issue for US-WEST servers.

Example of a cross-region VPN user getting an unfair hit, but hit validation counted it anyway. (My ping that game was roughly 30-33 stable)

The killers steam profile said they were from China, and their current and past usernames were in Chinese, so my guess is that they were using a VPN to play against US-WEST/NA players since hit validation doesn't work against VPNs.

I would slow the clip down if i could, but i hope this was a good enough example of the struggling experience that hit validation is. (There were more instances of this happening, but i only recorded this one because it was extremely obvious)

-Edit: I'm coming to the realization that hit validation rewards bad connection over good connection to a server as seen in this clip ^ and the ones above mine. (Just to add, you can tell that i wasn't lagging in the server as my character did not do any "glitchy" movements or teleporting of the sort when downed, like how it usually does when you are lagging.)

Same with me.

Honestly with hit validation fully released, hits like this shouldn't exist:

If she would've gotten instantly stunned after the hit, then I would call that fair or a normal dedicated hit I guess, but with the delayed stun and repositioning of her model, she was the one whos latency was behind the servers. Isn't the point of hit validation to validate hits that are very close to or exactly on the servers latency? I've hit survivors right when a pallet drops and seen other people do it and I call those normal fair hits, but this doesn't seem like one to me, maybe I'm just going crazy, but yea this is a problem that needs addressing.

Just to add to my previous post this was literally the match I just played (the clip name is not mine it's just from my stream)

Hit validation isn't functional and it hurts me inside

I haven't seen anything changed since the hit validation came.Everything is still the same.Hit validation is nothing but a crowd of code and payload right now.The ping owned by the killers still gives the killer an advantage

It was looking good up until they disabled it for the Oni fix and now it's screwed again. Getting hit through pallets 100 out of 100 times unless the killer's player lives in the same room as me. The benefit towards high ping players persists and is infuriating.