Once undying is nerfed im out

A quick reminder that ruin is still there and that there were times where undying didnt exist. Ofc we need something for the early game, but I think we need a change in the core game and not just bandaid perks. Also I never felt undying+ruin was for the early game. For my case, I never used gen stalling perks and have fun games at rank 1. I think a lot is about the reason why you playing the game. If you want chill games at red ranks and still "win" , maybe you should consider playing other killers or play chill and depip till you ranked where you have those kind of games.

So keeping your tokens for Devour Hope is a nerf? Let’s be real, Undying+Devour Hope wasn’t a thing at all but might be viable now.

they nerfed some aspects but also buffed other aspects of the perk. The current Undying was almost only usable with Ruin.

No, Undying DH won´t be viable at all. Haunted Grounds has at least the exposed status effect. But do you see many killer running around with HG DH? I haven´t seen any in ages. Same will happen to Undying.

And how many people are running Undying with Devour now?

Undying was always supposed to be a general Hex protection perk but the current implementation wasn’t working like that and it’s only real usage was with Ruin.

there will be killers using Undying with another Hex perk (with stacks). It won’t get to be Meta perhaps. But not every perk is supposed to be Meta. And Hexes were definitely never supposed to be as strong as Undying+Ruin was on certain killers.

There are certainly quite a lot of times where i've seen ruin+undying getting cleansed extremely fast leaving the killer with just 2 perks for the rest of the game.

I feel like this combo is so hit or miss.You either get insane value from it or almost no value at all.

It's one of the reason why i would pretty much never use hex perks (maybe in meme builds i guess) due to their inconsistent nature

....? What? Yes it will. Most of the time I see Devour cleansed, it's either

1. Cause it was out in plain sight (bad totem spawn)

2. 3 stacks and people started frantically searching for it til they found it.

With Undying, #1 won't matter unless the second totem was also in plain sight (unlikely on some maps, more likely on others). #2 will also not matter as much because that's still a ton of time survivors are spending after realizing they're screwed and have to desperately search for Devour. Option #3 that will now be possible (and most likely to happen) is that Undying will be cleansed earlier in the match if it spawned in an obvious spot, and then survivors will have to go to option #2, which is still better than #1 for the killer because he, at the very least, has some game time where the exposed status effect is active.

Anyways, as soon as the change to Undying comes into effect, I fully plan on spending extra time hunting down hex totems from the beginning of the match. I 100% believe that Undying+Devour Hope will be a fad build for a while and I'm NOT trying to get caught lacking by that build.

Oh look another airport thread.

Thanks for announcing your departure - I feel so informed.

Not the best post to make here on the forums because mostly everyone that responds to an Undying post is entitled to think a certain without any thought besides the usual; "Using an OP, no skilled combo", "Undying is Oppressive and Unhealthy for the game", "Only bad players need Ruin & Undying" and many more examples I can think of. I just tend to lose any brain cells going down that rabbit hole and conversating with those people in that circlejerk.

Says a survivor who can't live without DS+UB.

The devs seriously need to work on this early game start up they've been preaching for years.

So what did killers do before undying existed? Just lose

the speed gas isnt even a buff tho tbh the time it takes to throw it effectively etc at loops doent make him lose any distance

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you know you can play just fine without it, right?

also, against good SWFs Undying literally did nothing.

they just coordinate on totems and get rid of it within the first few minutes, leaving you with two dead perks.

the people you destroyed with it were mostly solo survivors you didnt need the perk for to begin with.

I have a video of red rank 1 swf taking out 3 totems in first 25 seconds today while I was playing killer.

Hexes will be for the green ranks.

At least with Undying today you cleaned dull totems in case the hex moved to it later. Now you never have to clean dull totems except for Noed! Huge advantage!

I think OP should go watch some killer mains like Hexy (who doesnt run Undying, and who hasnt lost a game since Jan 1st) or Otz. Both really smart players, both don't even touch Undying anymore, hell Otz usually runs 3 perks instead of 4 and none of them being Ruin/Undying. Comes out with 3k/4ks regardless. & yea, I don't even touch those survivor perks. I don't remember the last time I ran DS/UB/SG/DH/SC.

All this is, is a temper tantrum. I don't see this as a legit complaint, if you are actually going to leave because your favorite crutch perks you relied on thus far are getting nerfed and you don't know how to play w/o them, then so be it.

I mean, plenty of good players have said this before. Good survivors will get on those totems, only 5 spawn per match, all in pretty familiar/well known spots (albeit indoor matches are a bit tougher but regardless). They will get hammered out fast by a good team/good players. I have never complained about Undying or Ruin (I even would go as far to say I'd want Ruin to go back to its old state) but it is what it is. Actually happy the bad killers will be leaving/quitting.

Enjoy that while it lasts until survivor mains complain that devour undying is too strong and that gets nerfed.