Jesus Christ will you people calm the hell down for 5 minutes

"The community as a whole" is definitely a fair assessment. Of course I'm not denying there will be some people who don't mind, but the vast majority are against this change. You only have to look at the polls for this. People aren't just saying it's bad because they don't like getting used to change - people are annoyed about it because it's an obectively poor design. The previous one was simple, elegant and concise from a graphic-design standpoint. Not scattered all over the screen, no over-complicated graphics - just a simple, clear UI that allowed you to access a lot of information at once very efficiently. There was absolutely no reason to change it.

In terms of major bugs that are still here from the PTB, I'm talking stuff like being able to walk through solid walls on the reworked maps (no collision), jerky transitions during movement and the irritating hook audio bug. I know DBD has always been buggy, but it's astonishing that such major problems don't get fixed, even after players mention them on the forums again and again. Even regardless of the PTB, there are bugs that have been in the game for months - even years now potentially and still haven't been fixed. Take the infamous Nurse bug for example.

I do a fair bit of programming myself (not game programming) and although I do realize how much of a pain debugging can be, it's clear that's it's not being done as well as it could be.

Finally, in terms of the brick wall thing, I don't really think your example is particularly fair. "Shirtless Myers" is just a meme, I don't think anyone is genuinely expecting the Devs to listen to their opinions on adding stuff like that. I'm more referring to the lack of acknowledgment BHVR give towards common concerns the community has. That's all the community really wants - to be listened to. So many players (especially those who have been playing the game for several years now) have been alienated.

Sorry, the new HUD is objectively bad. A HUD should give information easily. Either because you have EVERYTHING at the same place or that you have things a little bit spread out, but need to look at some things only during certain situations.

This does not apply to the new HUD. Everything is all over the place. This might work on a Switch in Handheld-Mode or in a mobile game, but not when playing on a PC. I only have a 24 inch-Monitor, but I already have problems with eyestrain. People who play on larger Monitors or let alone a TV will have even bigger problems.

Its fine if you like it. That does not mean that the HUD is good.

Which polls are you talking about? The ones on the forum populated by a small and likely non-representative sample of the player base? People keep repeating that the new one is "scattered", but it really isn't much different than the old one. The old one already had key information in the bottom left, bottom right, and center right. Now the key information is in the top left, bottom right, and center right (gens not being "key" because players that aren't new should easily be able to keep track). They basically moved the statuses from bottom left to top left and now everything magically went from "elegant" to "scattered". I don't really get it. There is also no such thing as "objectively poor design" lol

I haven't encountered any jerky transitions during animations, especially when compared to previously when pretty much everything was jerky, be it a direction change or a crouch. What hook audio bug are you talking about? I only know of Elodie's scream, which was fixed. I hadn't heard of the solid wall issue - that's bad, but also hardly unprecedented. Reworked Coal Tower and the Badham shack had the same thing for a bit, and they were fixed fairly quickly in patches.

I agree that this game is a buggy mess, but I think that's the result of the pace at which they're releasing new content. They seem to very much be prioritizing new things over fixing up old things and raising the standard of the new things they do release. I'm hoping they'll shift more towards the latter once they no longer have graphics overhauls to focus on, but we'll have to see. There are pros and cons to each approach and a vocal part of the community is going to be annoyed either way.

I gave that as an intentionally extreme example to make it clear why implementing all changes that are in vogue in the community just isn't a reasonable expectation, and similarly why they shouldn't be expected to have to explicitly address everything they are and aren't going to change. I tend to trust the devs judgement more than the people on this forum, because the devs have a clear incentive to make their game balanced and successful, while people on the forum are usually just biased in favor of the side they main and angry about most everything the devs change. It feels like people have unrealistic expectations of the devs, the devs predictably don't meet those unrealistic expectations, and then they give a shocked Pikachu face and wonder why the devs don't care about the community.

How is there anything "objective" about calling a design good or bad? The only piece of information on the entire HUD that is not easy to get at a glance is the hook progress / bleed out bar, which is too small and needs more opacity. No one is talking about that, though, so my conclusion is that people are more just annoyed that the information isn't where they're used to it being. I think this HUD generally meets the latter of your "good UI" criteria; things are a bit more spread out because the bottom left is a bit closer to the bottom right than the top left is, but everything you need to look at in a certain situation is together. With the old UI we had a section for status effects / perks / points on the low to mid right side of the screen, and that's still there. We had a gen + status section in the bottom left, and now we just have status in the top left and gens in the top center. How often do you need to see the gen count when looking for the status of your teammates? I literally never look at the gen count because it's easy to keep track. Gens and the status section are the only pieces of information that were separated versus the old UI, but I suppose this is magically now "all over the place".

While there is a lot of silliness in this thread, it is impossible to argue with the fact that DBD had become fundamentally broken for a lot of players after the compulsory update to 4.5.0.

Personally, I don't mind the new UI, it took 2-3 matches to get used to. I don't mind the animation changes, even though the injured survivors do look silly,. While I like most of the map changes, the color pallete and the saturation on the Game appears incredibly high in comparison to how it used to look.

I do mind the critical emblem bug that appears to be causing a large-scale rank reset for a lot of players active the last 24 hours.

Additionally, it is inconceivable to me how any work on the fix for the already present significant hitbox issue, instead led to larger hitboxes as well as killers now fairly consistently being teleported to fronts of pallets after squeezing in an over-pallet hit and getting stunned (The timing of pallet stuns themselves is also buggy, with over-pallet hits having become far more common the last 3 or so months, but never before have I seen killers getting a free front of the pallet teleport after a hit-stun as well)

I think people are getting so upset over the fact that the devs seem hellbent on keeping this new UI which 99% of the playerbase does not like. It was pushed to live to give console players a chance to try it out and see if they liked it, but then the devs say that they can’t go back to the old one. Seems like a big “######### you” to the playerbase.

Some of the complaints are absolutely insane though. The way some people acting over 360s of all things has me wondering if they were some super secret technique that gave you immortality or something.

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I would agree if the feedback wasnt clear. Even when it was just images being promoted, way before the ptb, the feedback was so clear. They have never listened to their audience, they do what they want and push and push until people start leaving, then they throw some bp at us and we come back like the greedy ######### we are. And this is an age gated horror game, why does it say " ######### " when we swear...