wow all 4 survivors use dead hard now
almost every single game all 4 survivors are using dead hard.
This is just ridiculous when is this perk getting nerfed.
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JuST BaIT iT OUt
How do you bait out the distance and iframes?
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Ofcourse Tony. I am wondering when Sluzzy's new post?
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it says I made the topic before you even go in it
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I don't really like Dead Hard either, but you really can't stop people from using perks.
Imo, Dead Hard should either be able to be used for distance or to dodge a hit, not both. I would prefer the latter, as it is a more skillful interaction.
Unfortunately, due to Dedicated Servers, Dead Hard can't be used to dodge hits reliably. Until BHVR fixes Dead Hard so that you can dodge a hit, I find it unlikely that it will be changed.
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Trust me, you wouldn’t like 4 Sprint Bursts any better.
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are you sure it's dead hard and not just ash using lithe after vaulting a pallet on gideon after the killer has vowed to slug him to death and you thinking it's dead hard?
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That was so funny!!!! He blamed dead hard but at the end none of the survivors even had it!!!!
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Hi Sluzzy
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don't act like dead hard isn't a problem please.
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It really isn't.
It's annoying and can be frustrating to face at times. But you aren't going to lose a game because survivors have dead hard.
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Dont wanna be that guy, but I can count plenty of times where I've lost momentum (which has often lost me the game) due to a DH.
Is it a problem? Yes, but not providing anything constructive isnt really gone help your point.
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You didn't lose to dead hard. There's a ton of survivors out there who don't use dead hard very effectively.
You only start to feel the pain of dead hard when you go against strong survivors who can waste a ton of your time in chase. In which case those survivors often don't need Dead Hard in the first place. It's just easier to blame Dead Hard, because you can see the survivor dead hard away and feel cheated out of a down.
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Ill be a little fair to him (even though he doesnt deserve it) in the past week i think ive had 2 or more deadhards every game. I find myself respecting a survivor injured a lot because of it. And in other cases when a survivors going to a loop they shouldnt make im like "here it comes". Its so annoying. Even moreso when i block off a loop as trapper just for a survivor to deadhard OVER the trap and im the one dumb i guess. (Im agreeing to his point dead hard needs a fix nothing else)
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Oh hey, a Bizarro Sluzzy thread, I mean Lord_Tony thread.
Bait it out or git gud.
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Or possibly missing a hit after the survivor runs you around an infinite L T wall
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Dead Hard is the only broken exhaustion perk right now.
And even if DH wasn't broken, it still wouldn't need a nerf.
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Who is Sluzzy?
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Unfortunately no clue when.
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You could at least add context.
I said L T walls are infinite with trickster, nice try with your fake news.
He's too slow and his knives are too weak making L T walls infinite.
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So when I bait it out with deathslinger and shoot where I predict they will land to with DH I trigger their ######### iframe instead, that's fair.
So even when I bait it out I get hit with an Iframe.
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You were an oni and you said "what is this f*cking infinite loop" after running it completely the wrong way
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was talking about trickster bro
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This is way too specific. Am I missing something?
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Without any reference to trickster and seeming to be discussing the situation as it occured you could see why someone would think that
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Im confused this guy have a youtube or something i missed?
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pretty sure I siad it would be infinite if I were playing trickster bro
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When is nurse, pyramid head, deathslinger, spirit, hag, trapper powers changing? Why fault us for using dead hard when killers have these powerful killer mechanics and map offerings to solidify wins?
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Are you sure you are not mistaking Lithe for Dead Hard again?
And well, thats what you get when Survivors have like 6 good Perks...
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How is this perk getting nerfed?
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I know some people suggested dead hard make it so you cant throw pallets or vault windows for like 5 seconds after its active. Then people have to use it only to block a hit not for distance. Also just please remove it going through beartraps. Trapper sad.
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The hero this forum needs but dont deserves.
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That would absolutely kill the perk. I know the perk can be frustrating to play against, but 5 seconds is a long time given the short dash. The killer will down you in the next 5 seconds.
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Isnt the perks point to avoid a hit? Not extend like 40 seconds to a chase? I forget dead hards intention at this point.
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twitch too
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yeah theres this one VOD of him playing myers on the game and he vows to slug ash to death for being in a toxic swf (then fails to do that), tries mindgaming a safe pallet because Gideon before missing a swing and blaming autoaim and dead hard despite lithe having been used earlier in the game
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Just because the perk is meant to dodge a hit, doesn't mean that you can't dodge a hit and then use the small distance gained to reach nearby safety. The perk has always had a small dash attached to for it.
Using Dead Hard out in the open has very little point as if you aren't nearby anything to use, you'll go down shortly later. You basically want to turn Dead Hard into a perk that turns everything into an open field for 5 seconds allowing the killer to down you regardless.
With this change, why would anyone run Dead Hard over another exhaustion perk like Lithe, Smash Hit, or Balanced Landing?
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Oh...yeah i see it. God. Pass.
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It's actually a perk that combined them called "lithe hard"
Only swf are allowed to use it
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And don't even mention Lithe Harder.
Only Seal Team 6 SWFs get access to that forbidden technique.
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That isn't entirely true.
Even a bad Survivor, like me, can use Dead Hard effectively to make a pallet. If it's a close game, and a Survivor who would've been an easy down makes it to a loop because of Dead Hard, that can easily cost you the game and it would be entirely on Dead Hard.
Now, I don't think that's necessarily an issue, but it is an issue that Dead Hard can be used to either dodge a hit OR to get distance. It should be one or the other, not both.
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"With this change, why would anyone run Dead Hard over another exhaustion perk like Lithe, Smash Hit, or Balanced Landing?"
At this point, I think the goal is to make the perk completely useless.
Otherwise I cannot explain how someone can think that giving a 5 second restriction of vaulting windows or dropping Pallets can be anything else than destroying the Perk.
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From this timestamp (01:44:33) to 01:45:44
You are playing Oni. Nothing about Trickster was said around this time.
You run the L-T walls around the outside despite this being the least effective way to play these tiles, as it allows the survivor a guaranteed window. You attempt no mindgames.
To quote:
"I don't know why they want to #########- nerf bloodlust when I can't catch up to this guy normally." (01:45:25)
"Get the ######### out of here." (01:45:27)
"What is this, an infinite ######### loop?!" (01:45:34)
"What the hell?" (01:45:38)
Let's not pretend like you were talking about Trickster here.
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to be fair why remove bloodlust when killers are too slow
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i see you ignoring the rest of my comment
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That's crazy, dude. Anyways
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never heard of that one before when someone can't prove you wrong
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Yeah. Fair. Feels like it could still be adjusted in some way that pressing E won't result in a 40 second addition to chase. Which would really suck if all 4 survivors used it.
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Dead Hard is FINE as it is now. And full disclosure, I don't run it as a Survivor and fight against it all the time. Suck it up and learn to play around it.
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Make SB activatable and see how many people use DH then :D Also, SB gives you more speed to dodge the first hit and get distance like DH does. The only difference is, you have to take a hit first to activate it and its not always reliable.
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