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The camping and tunneling is ruining the game
It's ridiculous that this happens every match and when you add that onto the fact that the killers are already so powerful it makes it impossible for survivors to win a match. It honestly takes the fun out of the game and I wish the Devs would make it a rule that you can't do that. Its cheating end of story. I love this game, its my favorite but that crap is effin toxic and makes it hard for a survivor to rank.
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Would you be on board if the Devs banned flashlight clicking, t-bagging, gen rushing and bodyblocking since they are all "toxic?"
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Or, how about banning Generator camping. If you stop working on a Generator you can't touch it again until you find another one and bring it all the way up. :) You got pushed off that one, so you can't go back to that one. You MUST do a different Generator first. And you really shouldn't be able to tunnel a vault, only one use each and you can't go back through one until you go do a different vault. That seems fair right? :)
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Hang in there, the tunneling and camping tend to stop when you get a better rank. Just keep up the grind.
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Based on your comment, i take that you are still new to the game.
What you describe isn´t toxic. Its just a way for the killer to pressure survivors.
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If you really think killer is stronger than survivors, you haven't been playing for too long
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Inaccurate. What's ruining the game is survivors using every perk, tactic and playstyle in the book and calling it "okay", but the second the killer does the same, it's "ruining the game".
AKA - You're ruining the game. Stop ruining the video game.
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"Every match"? I swear I'm playing a different game than everyone who complains about camping and tunneling on here. It's not every match, and it's not even ruining the matches it does happen in. If you've played even a moderate amount of killer you'd gain some insight as to why it's the best option at times and hopefully understand why it happens to you at times, or you'd realize you're being accused of it because you kicked a gen or broke a pallet before leaving the hook and someone else decided to run right in front of you for an unsafe unhook.
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Buts it is simply not fair for the person being camped/tunneled on since there is nearly no chance of escaping once the killer decide to use those "strategics" if you can even call it that since it takes zero effort. At the end of the day we calculate 1 for 1 person having fun and thats not the case if killers are able to camp like the current state allows them to. The person should always have a skill relyed chance of escaping, it should feel rewarding to play good
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Killer is stronger than solos tho
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depends on the solos. there are solos where we gg ez. and then there have been solos where we die immediately. it depends on how skulled you and your teamates are.
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it is clearly not cheating as listed among the things here.
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Then either the survivor or the teammates failed.
No big deal. Just move on to the next match.
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DBD is a PvP game. Sometimes you just aren't going to have fun.
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exactly so why is a bad killer able to have "fun" by camping even tho he dont deserve a kill and a Survivor is punished for playing good.
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He caught you and he prevented other survivors from unhooking you. I don't see how that's undeserved.
DBD isn't a 1v1 game. It's a 1v4 game. While the killer can easily force one survivor to die, it can often be detrimental as it means the killer isn't pressuring the other survivors and keeping them from finishing gens.
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No? Its clearly unfair for the person being camped, that has nothing to do with failed or the teammates since the killer runs at mach 5 after not being able to down a surv for 3 min.
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afking infront of a hook takes no skill or effort and only ruins the experience of that person being camped. If you get camped once the gens are done is a different topic that i dont consider as camping.
"preventing" is a nice word for afking
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It took skill and effort to down the survivor in the first place.
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Congratulations. You kept the killer busy for 3 minutes and maxed out chase points. Here is your reward.
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You're lying saying it happens every match. I've played numerous games today and it hasn't happened once so far.
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i am talking about bloodlust fam
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Bloodlust + generic exposed perk = skill
lol u dreamin boi
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Ok that's for sure not true. Exposed perks don't just expose you for nothing. Starstruck activates when pciking a survivor up and only lasts for a certain amount of time. Noed has so much time for you to cleanse it before it activates. Devour hope requires you to not camp and can be cleansed before you even become exposed. So yeah
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I played from 9PM EST the other night until 2AM EST and it was every damn match I was in I was camped or tunneled.
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Yep I agree.
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Bloodlust resets when killers break pallets, use their M2 power, or lands an M1 hit.
If the killer is bloodlusting you and refusing to break pallets, then just go to shack as it's basically impossible for the killer to down you without breaking shack pallet.
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but that actually needs skill since survivors are defenseless
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Ya'll can call me a liar if you want but my friend that I play with is a streamer and she's live every time I play it. Last night was a better night bc i did escape a few times but the other night I played it and it was every match for 3 hours straight.
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cuz there are mutliple killer shacks (infinites) that you can loop in all game
oh wait they removed that because it was "unfair"
also its not part of participating in normal gameplay since the killers goal is be killing all the survivors
not only a single one because you got mad at him, thats not only camping thats griefing
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Make killer and survivor hitboxes the same size and you can take away bloodlust.
Deal?
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With that logic the game would have died long ago when it was worse.
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lel
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play killer why dont ya
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Killer shack was just an easy example. Jungle gyms can also force pallet breaks.
A killer killing a survivor via camping is not participating in "normal" gameplay according to who? Devs have stated camping is not bannable. The killer's job is to kill survivors so he's doing his job forcing you to die on 1st hook.
Sometimes you die on your first hook and that's okay.
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thats not entirely true as the griefing part actually states "Targeting specific users repeatedly in order to ruin their game experience" and thats most of the time what those killers are doing and thats what i am complaining about
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And you aren't facing the same killer ever game. You aren't being griefed. You are just getting bad luck.
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You can't make camping bannable/punishable behavior behavior. If a new player makes the call that that's the best way to win the game because they don't know how to track well, they don't really understand how the game works yet, don't have perks like BBQ etc... Not everyone who camps is doing it maliciously to ruin someone's experience.
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you contradict yourself
since you arent facing the same killer it has to be withing the game you are currently playing
dude i am out, this discussion feels like talking to a wall
there is no reason for camping to be a part of the game its only increasing the toxicity also Survivors experienced heavy and constant nerfs that killers didnt, for example endgame is clearly in favour of the killer and synergizes with perks like bloodwarden noed no way out etc. infinites have been removed list goes on bye pls dont pin me
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Camping is a part of the game, because killers aren't bots. But if you are getting hooked several times in the game and aren't being camped to death on first hook what is the problem?
You have many opportunities to lose the killer. Your teammates have opportunities to take the aggro for you.
This is just sounding more like you are bad at the game and want to complain.
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"Camping is a part of the game, because killers aren't bots." that argument is not meaningful at all
"getting hooked several times" you mean 2 times max.
camping is staying within range so if he gets unhooked you can instantly down him again
"You have many opportunities to lose the killer" NO not if you are getting camped thats the point
"This is just sounding more like you are bad at the game and want to complain" who smelt it dealt it
you dont make any sense at all
your arguments are weak and just wrong
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You had the opportunity to lose the killer before getting hooked.
You got hooked and your teammates failed to safely unhook you.
You are blaming the killer for mistakes made by you and your team. There is nothing wrong with camping. It's not an auto win strat and many killers who do commit to camping will lose the game.
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camping and tunneling are here to stay, and killers are often in a situation to where they're forced to do it. It's all part of the game.
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So is this a yes?
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This is a "its already like that" now the camp fix fast pls
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thats still not an argument and you are not refuting the arguments of mine all you do is writing some vague stuff that has no prove or reasoning whatsoever
"camping and tunneling are here to stay" this is a discussion not make wish
"killers are often in a situation to where they're forced to do it" No? This is such a vague thing to write
who forces them to pick a single person and ruin their game because they played good
I am reasoning with someone that cant even refute any of the arguments i brought up and also isnt shy about straight up lying
" It's all part of the game" BUT WHY? GIVE A REASON
there is no exact reason besides the killer not being able to play good or win at mindgames
"You are blaming the killer for mistakes made by you and your team" No! I am blaming him for abusing a skillles strat even a monkey could do
camping what takes zero skill or effort in comparison to what survivors have to do
"You had the opportunity to lose the killer before getting hooked" yeah no are we even playing the same game? you surely not be talking about dead by bloodlust scratchmarks and exposed
The chance to loose the killer in ranks under 10 is basically 1% at max
"mistakes made by you and your team" camping bubba kills the whole team if they come close to him and there are way more solo players than there are teams
but ok i get it you need camping and tunneling to atleast get the guy u mad at for being better than you, i am used to that
also from a psychologic perspective : the person insulting in the argument is most often then not wrong about it
ignoring the arguments brought up by the opposite is also a common thing if your core believes are being attacked
I dont have to agree with your unreasonable logic leave me alone pls
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You have no idea what I'm talking about, right?
Survivor hitbox is smaller than killers. That's why they can loop by hugging the wall.
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Not even that. Get rid of exhaustion perks DESIGNED to extend chases artificially. When I play, if I even hit Bloodlust, it's because the survivor used an exhaustion perk to extend the chase through no skill of their own. We can get rid of bloodlust when exhaustion takes a dirt nap.
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Killers already over powered so really they shouldn't have to camp and tunnel. It's BS. Like I said my friend streams so its all on her stream what we deal with. Tonight is another night of camping and tunneling. Its annoying too bc that crap causes us to de-pip.
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