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Fellow Killers, Just be Nice Every Once and a While
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I am a survivor main, and i encounter killers that go out of their way to not tunnel (after i run into them by accident after being unhooked, for example), and that is really good sportsmanship, to me.
However, a lot of my fellow survivors (i play only solo for some time now) are really toxic if the killer goes easy on them. I had games where very fair killers were shamed afterwards by my teammates, even though the game had easily been turned into a 2 of 3k if the killer had decided to play sweaty. I call them out for it, of course, but i can see why killers stop doing that.
Too many people only play one side of this game and forget that the other party are their play partners, not a bot and not their enemy.
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If the killer has had a really ######### match, then I will go find him and then lead him to a hook where I can point for him to hook me. They usually don’t take me up, but I offer. I definitely make sure to offer if the killer is farming with us.
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I have, and sometimes I try. But sometimes I kill them all for reasons.
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So what survivors do to be nice to the killer?
Post edited by BarbecueiChilli on5 -
I mostly go play killer when I am fed up with my soloq teammates - then I will just slash em all (revenge is gonna be mine! 😂)
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Euhm... I bet you that there are more killers that are nice every once in a while than there are survivors.
When do you ever see survivors being concerned with the killers enjoyment and adapting their play?
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I have only ever had one survivor give me a pity kill. Lost count of how many killers let me go. And I play killer almost exclusively. That is a lopsided discrepancy and a half. Heck, maybe only 25% even give a free hit at the end despite waiting at the exit gates for me to see them off, and SOME percentage of those are quite clearly accidental.
Heck, survivors are still trying to be toxic to me while I am going out of my way to play nice. They are odd creatures indeed. Luckily for them, I prefer playing for hooks anyways. I am not afraid to mess one of them up if they annoy me too much though. I will seriously drop what I am doing, hard face camp, and tunnel them out of the game. Better hope you are a God looper if you deny one of my precious hooks.
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I had multiple survivors in my games that offered themself to the killer at the end of the game so they dont lose with no points.
while i dont do that, if there is a challenge and its obvious the killer is doing it, i often will help him by going easy, and that was the one time i let myself be sacrificed (kill 4 survivors in basement in one trail). I see a huntress that doesnt hit, but it was the huntress challenge? i take a hit, juke her, heal up and let me hit another time.
During "normal" gameplay, however, there isnt much a survivor can do to a killer to be nice other than throwing the game.
However, during normal gameplay, i always to totems, dull or otherwise, i dont teabag or taunt the killer, i dont unhook into the killers face, and i run neither bt/ds/dh (i run iron will, however, because i am a stealth player and if you try to juke a killer during a chase you just need it.
Also, i leave the trial as soon as all survivors are safe and noone needs help.
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This.
Recently I farmed as Clown because there was a tome challenge I was too much of a pussy to try and accomplish.
Anyway, one of them dced, so it makes even more sense to farm.
I let three of them go but I accidentally hit Feng at the accident gate while she was exposed.
In the post-game chat, NONE of them said thank you or gg, literally none of them. The Feng chose to complain instead about being hit down at the exit-gate. I called them ungrateful and just left.
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I enjoy playing nice with the killer most of the time too. I always do little things to give them a break. I don't usually get much in return for it, but it's how I like to play and it makes me feel good.
While I wish more people played like you and I, the forum so easily devolves into us vs. them mentality and turns into everyone making excuses as to why they play sweaty/oppressive or BM. You can already see that with the replies in the thread so far.
Although to be totally fair too, everyone has the right to play however they like. People also have the right to complain about whatever they want. But it'd be nice if people didn't take it all so seriously.
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To be fair, a lot of people don't engage in post-game chat just because it can unpredictable. As long as people don't BM, that should be considered thanks enough.
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I'm fine with them not saying anything, but it was the fact that the Feng on their team chose to complain about being hit down at the exit gate (even tho she escaped) instead of showing gratitude.
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Yeah, unfortunately that happens. I've had people complain to me in post-game chat over all kinds of things too. I'd just say try not to take it to heart and that they were probably the only person in the match that didn't appreciate the gesture.
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And maybe that survivor I'm sparing is wishing me the worst things in the world after I destroyed its swf lol
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Am I the only one that purposely sends a message to the Killer (if possible) to thank them for giving me the hatch or the gate? I chit chat with them to sometimes. I thought that would be common.
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I like to be a nice killer sometimes. Downed a survivor very early in the match and they DC’d so I thought i’d just let the survivors do gens and escape.
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You've obviously never played a match of Survivor in your life.
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Thank you. I never tunnel purposely unless Survivors are being toxic ######### (one Yun-Jin spam-crouched after a pathetic Haddonfield loop earlier, and rest assured they were killed quicker than you can say 'entitled') or when I literally have to (I say have to, but it's more when I'm not willing to de-pip because of Survivors running amok and yes, being toxic). Otherwise, I cycle hooks pretty freely, especially when I play Nemesis -- who I've now learned to play, despite his many ailments -- and I never go out of my way to be an arse, like many Survivors do (sorry not sorry). But alas I made this post because I do genuinely care about player experiences and I go out of my way to be sportsmanlike at every interval imaginable.
Edit: Typo hehe
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Once I was called the r-- word for memeing and being nice.
But honestly, when killers play nice we always get insults and stuff.
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Bit of a poor excuse to be a dead-hard, unaccommodating obstacle for Survivors though, isn't it? You can't just give hatch every once and a while?
But hey, who am I to judge? It's your playstyle.
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Do you know what a person is called when they're constantly nice to people who insult, degrade, and denigrate them? A doormat. I don't think people should be doormats.
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I don't think people should be doorknobs either. But maybe you want to be one?
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Does it really apply if you go against a different group of people every time and you don't get any insults until after the match is over? That's kind of like spitting in someone's coffee at Starbucks because the lady the day before was a real catch you next Tuesday.
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I do give hatch every now and then, even then I get insulted for playing the killers I play.
I don't understand why you are hostile though.
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I'm a survivor main. Killers being doormats would benefit me. However, knowing what most vocal survivors are like, I don't blame killers for not being nice to survivors, given the usual experience they have as a result.
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You must have misconstrued my words. I'm not hostile, I'm just genuinely curious why some people find it so hard to just be nice every once and a while in a game that is played for fun by a majority of its playerbase. But as I said, it's your playstyle, and I respect that. You do you mate.
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Most vocal survivors are toxic, and most of the times a killer tries to be nice, there's an ######### (usually with other survivors either actively or passively supporting the #########). I don't blame killers for not wanting to take that chance.
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Oh yeah, I misunderstood, my b but yeah I usually play normally without being as would people now a days would say sweating.
I don't bm, haven't done it since mw2.
I usually also don't tunnel and actually I protect survivors who are farmed.
I play both sides and understand how it feels but I also don't blame people who play how they want to because it is their game, they bought it.
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@Apollos made a great point just before. By your logic (if it can even be considered 'logic', it's more just an opinion), Survivors either follow this rubric system of being painful, uncaring ######### or Killers should be that way to Survivors because of a supposed 'general experience' that has accumulated through what I am assuming is limited playtime and YouTube channels like Spook n Jukes?
Don't get me wrong, I love Spooks, but even he is an advocate for fair play and treatment even in spite of the fact that he gets insulted by toxic Survivors nearly every game he plays on Twitch...
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Fair enough mate. At least your argument has foundation.
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No idea who that is, but if you're just going to dismiss my (and most people's) experience out of hand, then I think we're done here.
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You can empathize, but it's still a bad argument imo. It's shifting personal accountability off onto people that are totally unrelated.
If someone wants to play aggressively and have no mercy, it's because they want to. Simple as that.
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You can empathize, but it's still a bad argument imo. It's shifting personal accountability off onto people that are totally unrelated.
I think it's just the inevitable result of their experience. You can't expect someone to put up with nonstop abuse when they're trying to be nice.
If someone wants to play aggressively and have no mercy, it's because they want to. Simple as that.
Well, yeah. Doesn't mean it's unprompted or inexplicable.
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I'm not saying there's no context, there's just no excuse. There's only one person responsible for anyone's play style and that's themselves.
If this were a situation with more weight to it or something more critical, I might be more understanding. But since it's a game that can be shut off and set aside at any moment, there's no reason not to take a chill pill and go into matches with a clear head.
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I'm not saying there's no context, there's just no excuse. There's only one person responsible for anyone's play style and that's themselves.
You're purposefully ignoring the influence other people can have on your decisions - and yes, other people can and do influence your decisions, even if some people deny it.
If this were a situation with more weight to it or something more critical, I might be more understanding. But since it's a game that can be shut off and set aside at any moment, there's no reason not to take a chill pill and go into matches with a clear head.
Negative interactions are negative interactions, no matter the form they take. I doubt you'd like it if you were subject to nonstop abuse when you were trying to do something nice for a group. How long would it take until you decided enough was enough?
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I'm not ignoring it, I'm just not giving the game as much weight as real-world interactions with people who influence someone's life.
If the game has caused someone to be so traumatized that they're unable to take responsibility for themselves and can only play to punish strangers who never harmed them or to raise their defenses so high that they're unable to enjoy themselves naturally, I'd say it's time to touch grass. We're not talking about a toxic relationship or unstable home life, so even a term like abuse is too heavy given the circumstances.
Sure there are a lot of negative actions at times, but it's not an abusive situation that cannot be controlled or that someone is unable to distance themselves from. Their reaction to it is 100% their own and again, blaming others for that is no excuse. No one is being held at gunpoint to adopt a specific playstyle because they're unable to vent their grievances any other way.
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I´m main surv red rank. I don´t play much killer. I just play huntress when i just wanna chill a bit.
I try to apply much pressure at beggining and keep them away from gens with ruin and corrupt intervention.
When I grab a surv with no more hooks, I just stare at him and go away. Or pick him up and fake the hook throwing him to the floor again. Eventually the game becomes a "friendly match". But never from the beggining. Have to say when i let them scape, a very few of them have stayed in the map as sacrifice, which is a very nice non demanded gesture.
If any of them has done excessively t-bag or being toxic, I´ll take him to the hook and M1 till death while saying yes with head of course.
I know I´m not playing propperly the killer. But as I said, I just play for fun and I don´t care get kills or promote ranks.
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Ah yes; the Killer is supposed to give the hatch because Survivors expect it. But Killers expecting a kill is 'different'. Just more 'Do as I say and not as I do' from Survivor mains.
Double standards, everyone!
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That´s true. Survs won´t give a sacrifice to a killer if he has played fair and nice. As much, they´ll give him their item.
You gave me an idea: next time I find one of these nice killer, I´ll sacrifice myself in exchange.
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I always try to say thank you if the killer lets me go. I’ve told a killer that it was nice of them to give someone the hatch (the person they let go was on crossplay) because we had an early DC. (I was dead but watching.)
I hesitate to give killer’s compliments because I don’t want them to think I’m being sarcastic. I try to be specific so they can tell I’m sincere (EG: GG most fun I’ve had against a Bubba in along time).
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You're sacrificing a lot by letting them live. The amount of points lost for someone escaping can mean the different between a depip and a safety pip depending on your rank, how long you kept gens unfinished, how many overall hooks you got, etc. The sacrifice scoring event is pretty important.
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After having physiotherapy after an accident and taking a hiatus from the game for several months, i came back recently with the MMR update. But if people are generally toxic towards me, i won't be nice to them.
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If you're horrible at every other event it is. Which, by the sounds of it, you are.
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Generally I play nice when I'm survivor but when I play killer I would like to play nice but if I do I get BM'D so I'd rather not unfortunately.
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No. I came to enjoy and play the game since there's nothing else like it. Not obligated to serve anyone else based on what they feel or want since it's a competitive versus.
And what even qualifies a "nice survivor"? One that doesn't t-bag and click flashlights? A normal player? Truly, what a bar to set.
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As a survivor main, let me say on behalf of the whole survivor side of the community, thank you for being considerate. Sadly, as many have said, your efforts are not usually recognized, and whether you choose to let that stop you or not is up to you.
I don't usually expect killers to be nice, because hey, they want to have fun and get points too. I get that. It is what it is. And I also get all the other killer mains here expressing that they don't want to be nice. Why should they when all they get is teabags and flashlight clicking and general BM in return?
But thank you for trying. Thank you for choosing to be nice at times even when it's not reciprocated, and even when almost no one else feels the same way. This community definitely needs more people like you.
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Amen!
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Just as a general rule of thumb from a killer only player. When the killer has more than 20k BP and 1-2+ kills it is okay to say GG. Killer having less than 10k and 0 kills, better leave it.
But from my experience it is always the other way round.
I play for BP and max 8 hooks (still want the survivors Hook state interface so i don't make accidental sacrifice).
When I get them all to death hook and let them live i get either nothing or in obvious "being a nice killer" cases "thanks you"s, ratio 80/20 or more. But damn when they manage to stomp me that is the time I get full GGs from all four but my trial was #########. Intriguingly no real toxicity per se in Form of "GG ez" or anything since ages, maybe due to hard avoiding tunneling and camping by really going out of my way.
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I still play nice. Sometimes I'll notice that the survivors I'm facing aren't very good. I can tell right away when I'm facing inexperienced survivors and I will play as nice as possible. Chase each of them for a bit, 2 hook them all, and if they don't do anything toxic, I'll let them all escape. I have always enjoyed getting more hooks than kills.
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This is good to keep in mind, thank you.
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