Salty killers finally killed the game

Blah Blah Blah games dying OMG
According to people the game as been dying since its release, we currently have more people playing the game than the same time around last year.
Unless you want to be dishonest and compt freeweekend as a part of the average then yeah
OMG THE GAME IS DYING ######### YOU KILLER MAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqtb6XBBBRc

I play on Xbox and it does seem like a recent change has made the lobbies worse. I always couldn't relate to the long waits because for me they don't happen. I usually join a lobby with at least 1 other person INSTANTLY as survivor or killer.

Now as killer the lobbies are taking an unusual amount of time. When I played day 1 clown and spirit this only seemed to last like 1 day. Even as survivor Legion has dropped from being the killer 90% of the time to like 40% of the time. So I don't see any re ason this should be going on.

Also it being a Saturday you would think obviously increases the player pool. I haven't had one killer match since Legion was released that didn't have a long wait involved.

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Dragonredking said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

Dunno what's up with all the aggression.

Ever heard "hostility breed hostility"?
Why are you blaming killer main when the reason people are leaving is the exact same as with every single game that ever existed?
Or are you forgetting that video game are still getting released?
Since october you have multiple mainstream video game serie new title that got released some getting even glowing review
Assasin creed, Blackops, battlefield (as much as I despice those 3 serie they still have a big player base) Red dead redemption, smash bros, darksider etc...
If the game hadn't lose player that what would be anormale

Yet the peak players in the last 30 days only 30,000, half of what it was a couple of months earlier.

half of what it was a couple of months earlier?
WHOA

So I was right then, you compt month where there is free to play weekend as a normal month

I have no word.

How ######### desperate are you to push your "the game is dying" narrative?

because the fact the killer cues are so long has nothing to do with a new killer being out and everybody trying him, amiright?

If you look up on YouTube "Producer Mathieu Cote Talks Dead By Daylight | NYCC 2017" and watch from 0:40 onward, he says: "The game is an asymmetrical game, it's 1 killer chasing down 4 others playing survivor wanting to escape the nightmare. Quite a lot of fun, unfair game right from the start with the killers being way too strong, survivors cannot go on the offensive."

The game was designed to be one sided, why should survivors be more powerful than 1 killer when there are 4 of them? It makes no logical sense at all.

When you take a look at the Steam charts, you need to take into count that some events may of happened during the months DbD had a spike of players, such as the Halloween event, but after those numbers went down because players got whatever they needed it would affect the charts to show players are leaving.

@Dreamnomad said:

@alivebydeadight said:
If you play console, you wait a year and the match takes an actual year to load

If that is the case then you need to upgrade beyond an Atari.

#########

@Peasant said:
@No_Cluie_Louis We just need to introduce more people to the game that's all. It's nearly Christmas time, don't hesitate to bring any gamer friends you know into Dead by Daylight.

I did that during one of the sales. They found the gameplay fun enough, but once they realized the insane grind that was needed for all the different teachables from all the different characters, just make a build that would be remotely viable, they gave up. The grind for a new player was just too asinine for them. Especially when they researched some things, and realized they would be above Rank 15 even before they had enough unlocked for builds, and heading into Veteran-de-ranking territory (and all the builds those de-ranking Vets could make against them).

They walked away. The game is too new player unfriendly.

Basically you are saying that the people you brought to the game aren't dedicated enough..... it was 5 times harder to Level Up when this game came out, now you can easily get 1,000,000 Bloodpoints in less then a week, if you are talking about learning curve i understand, i had a friend that give up from playing because he don't know how to play survivor/killer properly and got frustrated

@stvnhthr said:
The game is unbalanced. The average game length is getting shorter. Average survivor bloodpoints are consistently about half of what the killer ends the game with. This is wise from a developer standpoint, but it makes the game very heavily weighed in the killers favor by design. In an evenly balanced game 2 survivors should escape and have scores about equal to the killers. In an evenly balanced game this would be the norm at all ranks. This seldom happens. I main as a survivor but when I need quick bloodpoints I play with an unperked Trapper and usually get 3 to 4 kills without even trying that hard. I don't understand anyone who mains as a killer and complains. It is so easy as a killer and with the new perks it is getting easier all the time.

I would LOVE to know your killer rank if it's "easy." Basically everything you said was wrong except that the average game length is getting shorter, which also helps survivors btw, and the survivors get less BP, which is because there are 4 of you sharing in the bloodpoints whereas there is one killer doing everything so yeah, you will individually earn less but added together it's much more.

You said 2 survivors should escape every time if the game was balanced. Problem is, this is an ASYMMETRICAL HORROR GAME. The killer is supposed to be stronger, faster, and threatening. He is supposed to kill. The real problem is that survivors cried when they couldn't easily win so devs nerfed killers and buffed survivors so it's 50/50 now, and yet survivors are still complaining because they don't win every game and can't constantly bully killers.

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

Never claimed that killer is harder. But the game is terribly unbalanced towards survivors. A survivor shouldn't be able to loop a killer for 5 gens. But they are.

If a killer is getting looped for 5 gens that's not the survivors fault nor does it mean the game is unbalanced in the survivors favor.

That's all on the killer allowing themselves to be looped for 5 gens and not breaking off the chase, cutting the corners better or not taking the bait.

It's like the Kenny Rodgers song from the "Gambler", You've got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away.

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

Yeah, let's break that chase in the hope that the next survivor doesn't know how to loop. If he does, you'll just break the chase again and so on.
Not like looping is difficult or the killer is the only one under pressure here.

Yes lets act like every survivor is a pro looper which we all know isn't the case at all just as not every swf isn't a depip level swat team. The chances that 2 ore more survivors are pro loopers in a match are pretty slim.

To be able to loop efficiently constantly and know when to go to another spot isn't that widespread despite the misconceptions that it is. The bottom line is if you're getting looped for 5 gens that's your fault as a killer for chasing someone that long.

You and everyone else needs to stop making excuses for bad plays, if the killer lets themselves get looped that long ti's their fault. If the survivor runs in a straight line and or drops pallets to soon it's their fault, not the killers.

If the killer is camping and the survivors keep going for unhooks and rewarding the killer it's the survivors fault not the killers.

The bottom line is take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others.

laughing im another fatality

powerbats said:

@Tsulan said:

I must have missed the survivor nerfs in the last patch.

So you went form looping to missing survivor nerfs now, you keep moving the goalpost but the simple fact remains, if one side is screwing up and loses it's because they screwed up and lost.

@Wolf74 said:

You are missing the point.
The complain is: survivor are still going strong, but this patch only killer got nerfed.
You just follow the same narrative over and over again "killer have to get better (as player)".
You claim that it is their lack of skill that they get "outplayed", but our PoV is "the survivor are way less skillfull than they think, because they get constantly protected by the Devs".
And even after yet some more nerfs to killer in general and some mediocre killer even got specific nerfs, you still want the killer-PLAYER to improve.
Your asking a boxer to improve his skill to not get a beat up after someone tied his laces together.

Actually I'm not.

I know survivors are still to strong compared to killers and you only look at changes made as nerfs to killers.

I say killers need to adapt the same as I tell survivors complaining over changes, but I've also said there's buffs that need to happen. i've also suggested quite a few buffs to killers and nerfs to survivors some were really strong to the point of actually being too strong.

I claim it's their lack of skill because most often it is their lack of skill and instead of accepting that and learning they make excuses. when I 1st started playing I went up against a swf group as a level 4 Trapper against a level 8, 2 17's and an 18. I got looped on the Red Barn map of all places yet I still managed to hook everyone at least 1x including the level 8.

The game last a good 10 minutes and even though I didn't sacrifice anyone I got better as the match went on and i took what i learned into future matches. But what I didn't do is come to the forums and complain about how unfair things were or make excuses for everything.

I've also been maining killers the last 2 months but I also don't use the excuse that survivors are more skillful than they think. Some survivors are just plain bad and have gotten to the higher ranks due to how easy it is to pip. But the same is true for killers that don't belong at high ranks.

Both sides make excuses for their lack of skill but for killers it's more subtle because they can hide behind the power disparity. The survivors also aren't being protected by the devs or did the nerfs like exhaustion, healing pallets etc not happen?

Because if the devs were protecting survivors none of that would've happened, none of that would've even made it to the PTB let alone have even been discussed.

Again with the victimhood mantra, everything is viewed as a nerf if it doesn't directly buff the killers, they changed some stuff up to spice things up. The gameplay was getting stale and yours and the others responses are NERFS.

Would you prefer the gameplay to stay the exact same, meta always nothing new etc because if so then all the complaining killers have been doing. Like about DS/Hatch/meta survivor perks etc has been a huge troll job.

Then we get to the killer and it's the usual oh the killer is mediocre because I can't play it like normal killers thing. It's not Nurse/Billy tier so it's trash Freddy tier not that you don't play the killer properly or haven't fully learned it yet.

Why is it that the same usual crowd bashes every killer that comes out as mediocre and any change is always a nerf to killers and a buff to survivors?

That last part would've been accurate back when infinites existed on loops and sabo squads could clear the entire map permanently.

I'm simply asking people to play and stop making excuses for everything when a lot of times they could've simply played better. There's been enough videos on the forums from both sides making the usual excuses and then it turns out they screwed up quite often.

@Wolf74 said:

Ok, tell me the nerfs to survivor in the last patch/update/chapter?
Or tell me when survivor needed to "adapt" to anything?

Why is it always about nerfs/buffs with you and others on both sides since if they do something to change things up it's always about me me me only.

As far as survivors adapting to anything I already mentioned it numerous times, the exhaustion nerf that went further than anyone expected, the healing changes. Then the reduced pallets, the changes to vaulting and looping spots, the map changes.

These are all things survivors had to adapt to but because it doesn't fit the killer nerf narrative you ignore those. The same is true for survivors ignoring things when killers have to adapt, there's people on both sides that only see things through personal biases.