DC penalty is harsh
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You bought a multiplayer game and each player is entitled to play the game for their self enjoyment. The fact is that you are not entitled to ruin the game for others by rage quiting a match because you don't like how it is going. You are not owed a win for buying the game or having the game go your way. Just as you do not owe others anyone anything, they don't owe you anything either... win or lose you signed up to playing the game with other people, so play the game. You can rage quit and ruin the game for everyone else, but that is your choice and you are to bear the consequences for your own actions.
You act like I never have a bad game, I will try and win and you can do the same... if I lose I however don't complain and demand to be able to ruin the enjoyment of others because they need to sacrifice their good time because I am not having a good game. You are the karen in this conversation... you can try and turn it around, but just take the L and play out the game.
If you want to quit the moment things do not go your way; play against bots!
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No, because Killers are supposed to do that. Survivors are supposed to do the opposite.
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Gotta love being forced to play BHVR's bully simulator . If there isn't anything going to be done to clean up the toxicity in the game, then the DC penalty should be removed, that at least will help the health of the game somewhat.
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Wait did the DC penalty change? Isn't it just 5 minutes?
edit: Shows how much I DC...humble brag
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There is a distinct difference between 3vs1 at 5 gens and 3vs1 at 3/2 gens. And getting faster close to hatch is really not an argument for dcing.
The escape chances.for more than one survivor through the gates becomes exponentially higher for the left survivor. Even a first Hook suicide give better odds, the killer has first to complete the chase and then, on case of a camper, wait for up to 2 minutes.
A ragequit makes all of that obsolete and leaves the survivor with more work and less people to either make progress or distract the killer.
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hahaha that's a flex for sure! But no, the DC penalty has not changed, it goes up in increments, kept short initially but increases the more you DC. And the penalty naturally decays over time.
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Thanks!
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I will say the punishment is too much. I don't think it should go past an hour, maybe two at the most.
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So if a kill at 5 gens is fair why isn't a DC? The end result is the same 1 player out of the match early...And you can't tell why someone DC'ed, you can't tell if it's a performance issue, a connection issues, a rage quit, a power outage, some computer problem etc yet here we are accusing each other of DC'ing and wanting punishements regardless of the cause. You just want an action against DC's be it whatever the reason and whatever the penalty.
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Because Killers are supposed to reduce the Survivor number, not the Survivors.
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'' The fact is that you are not entitled to ruin the game for others by rage quiting a match because you don't like how it is going.''
uh , yeah , i am , karen . i don't owe you anything. its that simple. what have you done for people that d/c in a match ? are you their parent ? you bought their game or something ? you pay for their internet ? no ?
well then .
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yeah it decays after like half a freaking week . if i d/c today on wednesday , then d/c again on friday - its at 15 minutes, lmao.
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Good luck with that when online anonymity is the basic root of the problem.
Every online game has to fight toxicity and damn if most have no real chance.
Also when penalty would be removed for good no trial would see completion at some point. That was already the state when they where implemented. In every trial someone would disconnect because the conditions were perfect to their taste.
And without the penalty what would keep the rest of the lobby from disconnecting after getting left at a disadvantage.
I personally see the permanent removal of DC penalties as a nail in the coffin for any online team game.
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Did you buy my game, did you pay for my connection? No! So, why you you have the right to ruin my game by DCing? You booted up the game and you signed up to play the game... so play the game.
The hypocritical aspect is that you are a child that cannot handle you not dominating other players in a game... go play against bots, you can rage quit all you want.
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Before putting such a mechanic in game as dc penalty first make sure your game doesn't crash on multiple platforms plus people who unfortunately needs to leave to deal with real life issue or having internet troubles but most important of it is crashes that happens daily to console users I'm forced each time to wait longer period just to play for something I paid for and eventually it will get me banned for days? Weeks? Yeah dc penalty is way too harsh right now as op said and nobody can deny that we are getting punished for playing your products and for giving you money and views
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Imagine matching 5+ k hours players with noobs.
Ranks is the ONLY form of matching ATM and even that does not work properly.
Now throw even that out of the window and lets see who are the real masochists. xD
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DC is only a problem for survivors cause the 3 remaining very rarely try. They rather let the DC affect the match and screw points for everyone by jsut giving up than playing the rest of match. It's not impossible to win 3v1 and if you're in 3 v1 then you should make an effort to help someone escape, be it yourself or one of the other 2 which is what you already had to do when it was a 4v1 so exactly where is the differance?
THe game is balance on a 2 escape 2 die so either 4v1 or 3v1 somebody is getting killed. If you count the DC as a kill then at least one of the remaining 3 has to die aswell. So isn't it better to just keep the match going and make it harder for the killer to get more kills instead of all 3 just giving up and everyone getting less points?
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Nah, it's generally accepted that a 3v1 from nearly the start is extremely difficult to win unless the Killer is REALLY bad, and it's not because the 3 decide to just accept their fate.
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This is pretty much why it was changed that the match would be cancelled if a player disconnected during loading.
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Just a reminder to people as well to keep this thread civil - there's no need to attempt to insult people over a differing of an opinion. If you are unable to discuss something civilly, then please do not comment!
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Im sorry WHAT!? So the killer has to be bad for the 3 to win? Thanks for admiting Survivors need all the babysitting in the world. Bad killers and number advantage... Mentality of the Bully.
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Imagine throwing a fit about the punishment you get for throwing a fit and affecting the other players in a match.
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Leave it the way it is. Either finish the trial or play something else. Don't go ruining the game for other people because you're upset something didn't go your way.
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Yes. As Mandy mentioned above, that's why they changed the system so that matches where a Survivor DCs before everyone is loaded in are cancelled.
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You posted in a discussion forum. Of course you are going to get other people's opinions that either agree or disagree with your point... thats how it works lol! It doesn't make people entitled because they decided to engage with you. If you gonna open up a discussion prepare for opposing point of views. Its not a bad thing!
DC or encouraging DC is against the rules. Plain and simple. Saying the DC penalty is harsh is silly. Its suppose to be harsh to discourage it ^^"
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That matching already happens, i have 90 hours on PC ( i've been playing on console since Summer 2018, until i quit because the disastrous RE chapter release) but who do you think i'm matching with on my PC matches?
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But you're still punishing the DC'ed player when there's very little reason to. How's that fair? What i can control during a Loading besides the Plug on my PC/Console or Alt-F4/Close App? What reason would anyone have to pull the plug or Alt-F4/Close App?
A Mori? I don't even know if i'm facing a decent killer player. A Map offering? Same answer as before and valid for survivors aswell. There's no reason to DC on purpose so you're most likely encountering an issue beyond your ability but you're still getting the punishement cause the system doesn't make a distinction.
Very Fair, very BHVR like.
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The only way to dc during the loading screen is to close the game so they won't be affected by the penalty
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Canceling the match is robbing everyone of points and sending back to queue where again the wait times and match fairness is in question. you can get an easier match or the one that didn't happen was an easier match. You will never be able to tell. So since that's the case you're forcing everyone to admit defeat, nobody won anything from the last queue. More wasted time for 4 players and even more wasted time for the guy that now has a DC penalty.
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You're not forcing anyone to admit defeat because no one loses anything. Not ranks, not items, not even offerings/add-ons.
Also, I don't think the DC penalty applies to someone DCing before the match loads (though I could be incorrect on this one).
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Yes you are, you canceled their chances for progression. It would be silly if they actually took anything away from before, but they canceled everything you could achieve.
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Dc penalty is needed in this game. 72 hours makes more of an impact than getting banned for 1 hour. If you're struggling to play the game because of your internet or the game not running great on your system then there's not much you can do but getting a new isp or system.
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That's not a loss because that is hypothetical.
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Oh but it does, i've quit a match during loading because i was sent to a Malfunctioning Map before it was disabled and i got the DC penalty. They sent me on purpose to a malfunctioning map and i was the one facing punishment... Being a bully in DbD is rewarded.
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According to my research, you do not get a DC penalty for disconnecting in the loading screen.
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It's not, the match would happen otherwise. Everything was ready for it but a last second miss happening determined the whole process to be shutdown. Imagine you're buying a home and the banks says yes to everything and then when you're closing the deal the bank backs out, are you not losing your home?
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ah yes i'll buy a whole new console or PC jsut cause DbD is malfunctioning, great reasoning.
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And according to my own eyes and experience you do.
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Your experience does not match up with what I am reading from multiple sources.
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And i don't take your research serious either.
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Here you go:
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You do not. Close app before loading in is not a penalty
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And smurfing is already a problem in every online pvp games so what does that prove against my point?
Thank the heavens that smurfing isn't more prevalent and that the matchmaking at least does SOMETHING.
Making a casual mode without a atleast partially functioning behind the scenes mmr like for example in league of legends would lead to a Smurf like environment not being the minority but potentially all the lobbies.
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Don't DC!!!
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Why play the game if you DC and screw over your teammates?? This is why we have the penalty.
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you mean the rules that when you click i dont accept....youre not able to play?? hmm sounds more like forcing then choosing
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You chose to click accept, so I don't know how that's forcing.
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that is the point of rules. Can't follow em can't play the game. You have to follow the rules to play the game. That is the point of them being rules
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i'm not a sheep and not good in folowing bs rules.....the dc penalty is bs like op stated, so is behaviour's behaviour with adressing the main reason why people dc....and you call it ragequit, we cal it....im not gonna play with complete idiots,
the fact is that a company should not have the power to decide how you use or not use the product you bought and so do none of you.
the only thing they made sure of is that i and many others will never spend a sinle penny to all company's involved with this game
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Yup. What else can you do? Please tell me bro I'm sure everyone here dealing with freezes/fps drops will appreciate the fix you found. You have 2 options atm play the game as is waiting for an optimization update or buy a whole new system. Thats your only choice at the moment but ima wait for the solution you found. (No dc penalties ain't it)
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