The only ppl that don't want SBMM are: SWF death squads and Top Killer mains

The question would be,do you really want to reach and keep this level of play?

Because if you want to,then it's obvious that that's gonna be a really hard and painful way.

Also,balancing for DbD is really complicated.Like you just can't balance casual levels of play the same way you would balance top percent of play.BHVR decided to balance more towards the casual part of the community so we'll have to live with that decision.

Shifting who gets ######### by the system isn't solving anything, it's just mixing it up.

Correct. Balancing FOR the top % is a bad idea.

Balancing the top % is something different, though my idea would probably involve a visible MMR indicator.

Well,they can't balance around the casual AND the top % part of the community.

Also,the problem with your idea is that people will 100% use that to abuse the system.

The thing is, nobody is forcing you to reach and stay the top % level of play.

If you want to play more chill then SBMM should match you with rather chill survivors (which was my experience).

Are we both going to sit here and pretend that if this new system works as intended, you'll be able to play whoever you want with whatever perks you want, against the best survivors, and not have your experience be a miserable ordeal? If we're going to play make believe, I'd at least like to know.

The fact of the matter is this: most killers in this game have a very well defined skill ceiling - you'll almost never be able to beat certain teams or players, perks notwithstanding, with a majority of the cast. They have barriers on their efficacy based on the power they're given, and not even the best meta builds can propel them beyond a certain point. This is by design, and you could debate whether or not this is intentional on BVHR's end or just due to ignorance of how the game is played on the killer's end.

Survivors have a much higher skill ceiling than all but the most powerful killer (nurse). That is why she is the most picked killer in tournaments, and that is why competitive players gravitate toward her. There -IS- a point where player's skill with this killer can eclipse that of the survivor, and thus it justifies picking her up, learning her, and mastering her power. Other killers (save maybe Spirit) don't have this benefit, and so you will always be artificially capped on how well you'll do.

If you're only counterpoint to this is "yeah, but you don't have to play X and Y way to win." That already tells me that you're not one of the people that will be affected by these changes. More importantly, this outlook shows a lack of concern for all players that will be at the top end, waiting for longer matches, having longer (arguably less fun but that's subjective) matches, and seeing little variance in killer/perk picks.

But hey, to each their own I suppose. My opinion on this whole SBMM situation is that the game isn't balanced enough to even consider implementing a system like this, nor will it ever be based on BVHR's track record of prior balance changes. DBD doesn't have to become the paragon of game balance, it just has to reach that "close enough" point where people are more satisfied than not with the game's current state. At the moment, firing this system off during this period in the game's life is not only reckless, but shows a massive disconnect (yet again) between the developers and the player base.

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My hopes, dreams, and asperations. How could you? :'(

And that is why I welcome SBMM. I've always played DbD as a casual game. Some nights, I just want to screw around with different add-on combos with Myers and see how it goes. Some nights, I might want to play Huntress or Deathslinger (I rarely play either) and just see how many off-the-wall hatchet hits I can get or quick-scope shots I can land. And so forth.

I never cared what the perk-meta was, and never chased after the 4k to feel like I had fun in a match.

When I want to play more serious PvP, I would login to Overwatch, Apex, and such. Not the 4v1, heavy RNG, Dead by Daylight.

There is zero indication of any skill if you are consistently getting steamrolls and feeling like you are competent at the game. This goes for survivors but it especially goes for killers, and moreover anyone who has dumped a ridiculous amount of time into this game. SBMM is lucrative, stop playing if you really think it will effect you that much.

Bloodpoint awards for ranked of course.

250K Everytime i hit rank 1 when i get reset back to rank 20? [BAD WORD].

that would make my grind from 20-1 the best thing ever,

-Not trying too hard to get the 4k (like slugging the third survivor to find the 4th one)

-Not playing with super meta loadouts (something like Nurse with recharge+range addons,Tinkerer,Ruin,Pop,Corrupt and an Ebony Mori)

-Try some meme builds or off meta perks

Basically treat the game casually and not like you're trying the win the DbD championship

Also,i seriously doubt that getting to top % MMR is gonna be super easy.It's 100% gonna be harder than just reaching rank 1

That is being more chill though. I get the easy survivors as a reward for being chill. You get the degen ones to repent for all you have slaughtered. Fair is fair, bruh.

Hope is the most dangerous drug.

If they would only look for the SWF cash cow, then they wouldn´t develope the whole skill based matchmaking. Since SWF will have a harder time with it.

"The Game is too unbalanced for SBMM"

^ This is pretty much it right here.

This is not how aggregated statistics works. average statistic will remain the same. Vast majority survivors are not high MMR so vast majority of killers are effective to some capacity at low to medium MMR which is like 80%+ of the DBD games assuming the killer player is good.

potatoes will play with other lower MMR players. High MMR will play with high MMR. For vast majority of population, matchmaking will not change too much for most players. overall the matches will just be closer(harder) because you will be matched with players within your own skill bracket. it means a lot less otz 50 winstreaks with weaker killers with mismatched skill-levels.

Nah, sure even in unranked matchmaking everyone is playing seriously, because the game is like that : you have to put yourself at 100%, or you'll be destroyed, but players are more less entitled to a victory. By that I mean you won't get a "GG EZ" in the end, or "you played like an [insert what you what]", ...

Where in the ladder matchmaking, the ranked, you play your rank, you play strictly hoping that one day you'll be n°1. That's why SBMM emphasize.

Overwatch players are a big joke, its community is one of the worst I've ever known. It instantly made me stop the game... Overwatch has the bigger haters possible, as LoL.

I remember that SBMM is a ladder, where you have a n°1, a second, ... Current ranking is just "you're rank 1, as are many other players" so you don't tryhard that much.

But SBMM, you can always increase your skill score, and that emphasize tryhard, and in some way, unhealthy gameplay, where casual players will must throw some games to decrease their scores, if they want some cool games.

If you implement a SBMM matchmaking, you have to implement an unranked matchmaking. I'm sorry.

Well, everyone has their own opinions. As they say, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".