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So i either have 1 short match every 45 minutes. Because the matchmaking can't find anyone on my rank or I play 4 matches on a lower rank in the same time.purebalance said:@Tsulan said:
Nickenzie said:
Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
You should want to play with people on your skill level. Essentially it should be easy until it gets hard enough that you don't rank up(they might need to expand the ranks a little though).
Mhh what should it be...1 -
@Tsulan said:
So killers body blocking the hook was bad and unfair. But survivors body blocking the hook is good and fair.
Got it!
That's a really bad deflection there and you know it so we'll break it down so it can't be fallacied again.
Fact: killers blocking the unhook prompt was an abuse of game mechanics and as such was fixed.
Fact: survivors body blocking the hook can be dealt with by hitting the the survivors thus putting them into the injured state and or downing them.
Fact: survivors couldn't injure the killer to make them move from blocking the unhook prompt and the killer could still swing at said survivors while doing this.
Fact: so one was bad and one still isn't because the killer has options whereas the survivors never did.
It took the devs 1 week to nerf Freddy. But it takes them over a year to buff him.
Yes because they were working on other things you know like balance issues, reducing pallets and safe vaulting spots, buffing killers, changing maps. But hey lets not do all that and instead focus on 1 killer that they want to get done right.
DS nerf was mentioned half a year ago and we still have no ETA.
Oh here we go again with the oh it's not out yet nonsense, it's almost as if they're trying to do it right. But hey why not throw something out there that doesn't work properly just to appease the vocal minority. The nerf to healing took awhile but it's worked out fine.
The exhaustion enrf took awhile as well and went further than what killers were asking for but hey it's worked out fine as well.
Bloodlust was supposed to activate faster to compensate for the speed nerf. But they only nerfed the speed to make chases more fun.
That's funny because if you had to depend on Bloodlust that meant you were playing a killer wrong and in fact they removed BL 3 which if you got it that high you were just plain bad.
Most killers aren't on the forums complaining over this because they never depended on it to begin with. It's still a work in progress and it's vastly overblown.
The excuses and deflections just coming from the same vocal minority on both sides, it's like you have to have something to complain about and blame.
So lets say they remove DS from the game, then what will your excuse be next that you'll blame for all your troubles. Before it was SB and now that that got fixed go figure a new bogeyman popped up to take it's place. Then it was healing, well that got hit as well and then after that the vocal minority found a new bogeyman to blame.
Both sides vocal minority just seem to want to complain and nitpick with every change a personal insult and nerf to them and their preferred role. The devs could buff killers to the max and the minority would still complain and make excuses.
The devs could nerf killers into the ground and yet the vocal minority of survivors would still complain and make excuses.
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Strange survivor logic.
They do not get tired of explaining how bad it is to camp for the killer.
But instead of just taking advantage of it, they try to educate killer how to play "better".
So the mouse is teaching the cat how to chase better?
Or does the mouse just want to take the cheese while the cat is looking around?^^4 -
@Wolf74 said:
Strange survivor logic.
They do not get tired of explaining how bad it is to camp for the killer.
But instead of just taking advantage of it, they try to educate killer how to play "better".
So the mouse is teaching the cat how to chase better?
Or does the mouse just want to take the cheese while the cat is looking around?^^If you're referring to me I've been maining killer the last few months if you're referring to someone else the same could be said for killers.
As far as explaining about camping given all the killers that complain on this very forum about gen rushing while they camp even at 5 gens.
If the killer is camping with the gates powered most survivors and those that play both sides accept it as totally legit. The same is true for those teabagging idiots that think they're cool right up until the moment you down them.
You can't complain about gen rush and then turn around and do exactly what gets you gen rushed especially after telling survivors to gen rush said camper.
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If survivors are too close to hook, camp.
If survivors are too far away from the hook, camp.
If you see 3 survivors working on other 3 generators and 70 seconds passed, think that they are going to finish the generators anyway, camp.
If the survivors have certain perks, camp.
If survivors are gen rushing and you lost 3 gens before your first down, camp.
If your ruin and 5 gens up but you managed to get one down, take advantage of it, kill him so that you can have a better match with 3 people for the rest of the trial, camp.These are the excuses I have heard from the killers. Killers who don't camp still don't camp. This patch didn't change anything for campers or tunnelers, didn't create 'more camping' killers.
These kind of threads where killers say that they are going to camp more because x happened doesn't change anything. Truly pointless.
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@Delfador said:
If survivors are too close to hook, camp.
If survivors are too far away from the hook, camp.
If you see 3 survivors working on other 3 generators and 70 seconds passed, think that they are going to finish the generators anyway, camp.
If the survivors have certain perks, camp.
If survivors are gen rushing and you lost 3 gens before your first down, camp.
If your ruin and 5 gens up but you managed to get one down, take advantage of it, kill him so that you can have a better match with 3 people for the rest of the trial, camp.These are the excuses I have heard from the killers. Killers who don't camp still don't camp. This patch didn't change anything for campers or tunnelers, didn't create 'more camping' killers.
These kind of threads where killers say that they are going to camp more because x happened doesn't change anything. Truly pointless.
Agreed and it made me think of all the ones from the vocal minority of survivors that say they'll just teabag more after a change.
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@powerbats said:
Agreed and it made me think of all the ones from the vocal minority of survivors that say they'll just teabag more after a change.
Yeah I agree.
Both killers and survivors think that they have the higher ground but at the end of the day, neither side is actually worse than the other because people are just the same. They have different tools to threaten, that's it.
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On ps4 there is more camp, yes. Actually it's about 90% of the games.
But i'm not sure it's only about BBQ. I think it's because of Legion.
Many survivors player, especially kids, like the new killer Legion because of the edgyness. And what do you do when you're a non experienced killer ? You get roamed and you use camping and noed...
Facts.
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Killers who are prone to camping will find any excuse to camp. Survivors who are prone to rushing the hook and playing super aggressively will find any excuse to accuse the killer of camping and then BM.
Nothing has changed. You're not better than anyone else, @Tsulan. And you really need to work on constructing logical arguments instead of being so reliant on drama, playing the victim and being divisive.6 -
I didn't know an excuse was needed to camp.
I will update my guide accordingly.2 -
I never claimed to be better.brokedownpalace said:Killers who are prone to camping will find any excuse to camp. Survivors who are prone to rushing the hook and playing super aggressively will find any excuse to accuse the killer of camping and then BM.
Nothing has changed. You're not better than anyone else, @Tsulan. And you really need to work on constructing logical arguments instead of being so reliant on drama, playing the victim and being divisive.
As I said in the first post. I'm curious to see if people camp more.
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.0 -
Straight up camping more? No, perhaps not. Or perhaps?
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On the rare occasion I play Killer, if I hook someone I just start patrolling the generators again. If there's a generator nearby, obviously I'll patrol that one first. In most cases they will save the guy on the hook and I'll just circle back and get them (usually the same guy I just hooked).
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Ew no.
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@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
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Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use.
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BBQ is the killers WGLF. So why no use it?Dragon_of_Fantasy said:Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use.0 -
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging roundI can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.
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@powerbats said:
@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging roundI can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.
Sure, that might happen once every 2 billion games.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging roundI can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.
Sure, that might happen once every 2 billion games.
More often than that and i've had it happen when I'm killer as well playing Shape, M&A killers are also ones that have it happen But then I usually get rid of sabo dailies anyways.
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Idk why they nerfed BBQ it was such a good perk for weaker killers. Are they seriously going to make the game as survivor tilted as it was in September 2017? I've been asking for buffs to survivor but I only meant SOLO survivor and not these game breaking mechanics where BBQ gets hard countered by one perk? ######### devs that sucks.
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SWF is just so strong right now it's unreal.
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How is a statement from the devs an excuse? Its prettymuch gospel of why they implemented BBQ... before BBQ camping was a massive problem... since BBQ only noob killers or killers that just wanna see the salt drip off the survivor while on the hook camp...Mashtyx1 said:@Tsulan Not to argue because this community is just... wow. But isn't saying "The devs gave it to killers to prevent camping." Still an excuse? Like think about it... People argue camping is bad and not making the game fun and all I see as a come back is, "it's a legitimate strategy" or "the devs gave it to us to reduce campong!" But that's just an excuse to prove your point? Without actually sitting down and having a discussion. Though I know this community and oh boy can 99% of it not actually have a normal conversation.2 -
Amen!Bravo0413 said:
How is a statement from the devs an excuse? Its prettymuch gospel of why they implemented BBQ... before BBQ camping was a massive problem... since BBQ only noob killers or killers that just wanna see the salt drip off the survivor while on the hook camp...Mashtyx1 said:@Tsulan Not to argue because this community is just... wow. But isn't saying "The devs gave it to killers to prevent camping." Still an excuse? Like think about it... People argue camping is bad and not making the game fun and all I see as a come back is, "it's a legitimate strategy" or "the devs gave it to us to reduce campong!" But that's just an excuse to prove your point? Without actually sitting down and having a discussion. Though I know this community and oh boy can 99% of it not actually have a normal conversation.1 -
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If survivors are attempting to unhook someone it is. Otherwise its a waste of time.
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I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?7 -
Exactly my sentiment. No one needs an excuse to play the way they want.
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You wrote "I rather sit in a queue" wrong.Nickenzie said:
I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
Why should I care for them? They sure as hell don't care for me.
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@JanTheMan said:
Aw, so this is the new excuse.Killer always have an excuse.
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Players on either role have excuses.
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I haven't noticed any difference in my playstyle, just going after bps is my main goal, plus I still run bbq, it's all for that bonus BP. I think of it this way, the aura reading is that nice yummy steak which is the main course but then theres that delicious side of mashed potatoes that's just as good as the main thing which in this case is the bonus BP. But I love mashed potatoes more than any other side so I guess I'm a bit biased here
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If the killer is camping you punish them with a gen rush. That’s the counter play. To many times I see survivors try to risk their lives and pay for it. Like if it’s leatherface you know there is a high chance your being camped so be prepared LOL. If I camp it’s because I would like to solidify one sacrifice if I had a bad game or if I was dealing with a really toxic survivor.0
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I was going to point out to Nickenzie that they/you DO know you're ruining the game for the less experienced players and the fact that you openly admit it is rather sad, honestly.Tsulan said:
You wrote "I rather sit in a queue" wrong.Nickenzie said:
I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
Why should I care for them? They sure as hell don't care for me.
It explains, quite clearly, the type of player you are and really discredits any kind of point you try to make when it's clear you would rather just play easy mode at the expense of anyone else's ability to be able to enjoy the same game, regardless of balance.
as you've said, "why should they care for you, you sure as hell don't care for them".... the major difference here is that YOU are going out of your way to get into lower ranks and ruin their fun... while they are just trying to play the game.7 -
Nickenzie said:
I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
I only want to chime in on this point... The idea of a ranking system like this is stupid for that very reason. You shouldn't seperate ranks and skills of players in the first place.
The reason some players plateau or get stuck floating at a certain rank is they don't challenge themselve against people who are better. Its basically fighting games 101, play better people and become better. And babysteppping into it as the ranks intend is a diservice to anyone who actually wants to get better.1 -
I'm assuming you're questioning killers camping more because of the nerf to BBQ on aura readings due to lockers and the distortion perk.Tsulan said:
BBQ is the killers WGLF. So why no use it?Dragon_of_Fantasy said:Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use.
I can make my comment more clear with what I'm saying. If killers camp because they are upset that BBQ was nerfed on aura readings, it's sad that they can't find another build to use.4 -
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
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When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
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@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape.
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@purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape.
...I literally said it's a legit strategy just like camping is. I don't even camp but I think it's funny survivors call it out like it's the worst thing you can do and then run in circles all game. Both are strategy. Running in circles works better but that doesn't mean a killer can't camp if they want to.
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@scorpio said:
@purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape.
...I literally said it's a legit strategy just like camping is. I don't even camp but I think it's funny survivors call it out like it's the worst thing you can do and then run in circles all game. Both are strategy. Running in circles works better but that doesn't mean a killer can't camp if they want to.
Camping is not a legit strategy. It's not bannable, but it's no longer supported. If it was, there wouldn't be an emblem penalty(albeit a practically nonexistent one) which implies the devs think it shouldn't be happening unless survivors are right there.
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@purebalancepurebalance said:@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said:
Rebel_Raven said:
JanTheMan said:Aw, so this is the new excuse.
You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?
If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near.
With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot ｃａｍｐｉｎｇ ｉｓ ａ ｌｅｇｉｔ ｓｔｒａｔｅｇｙ
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape.
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it1 -
The LOL button is sorely needed.Post edited by Raccoon on1
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I only camp when the exit gates are open.
And when there is that survivor flashlight clicking and teabagging.
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You can camp if and when you want to.
"Oh, but it doesn't work at high ranks and you'll only get like 10k."
Except I had a topic where I posted a bunch of games (in a row) camping vs SWF throughout the red ranks wherein my score generally ended up being at least 20k consistently.
It's too bad it got shut down and all the images deleted
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Imagine getting destroyed by a omegablink nurse every game as a survivor Tsulan. You wouldn't have as much fun because you never had a fair chance to play survivor, right? Consequently, when you derank as a killer, you're becoming that Nurse in the situation described above and ruining the fun of the survivor side because you don't wanna play at your entitled rank. It's ridiculous Tsulan, there's no reason to camp and derank over a BBQ nerf. I'll say one thing, I, Nickenzie had to "git gud" like the other killers and don't rely on the perk to find survivors. You should do the same to improve your killer gameplay as you are severely lacking in the hunting category.Tsulan said:
You wrote "I rather sit in a queue" wrong.Nickenzie said:
I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
Why should I care for them? They sure as hell don't care for me.1 -
I'm not going out of my way to derank. I currently have very little time to play. Like 30 minutes at most. Can't wait in the lobby for that time. So after the reset I don't really try to kill. After the rank reset I still sit on rank 12. I don't camp, I don't tunnel, I go for the unhooked survivor, etc. I'm playing suboptimal to avoid piping.Avariku said:
I was going to point out to Nickenzie that they/you DO know you're ruining the game for the less experienced players and the fact that you openly admit it is rather sad, honestly.Tsulan said:
You wrote "I rather sit in a queue" wrong.Nickenzie said:
I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.Tsulan said:
What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.Nickenzie said:
You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.Tsulan said:After the recent BBQ nerf.
Out of curiosity.
On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.
So why bother?
Why should I care for them? They sure as hell don't care for me.
It explains, quite clearly, the type of player you are and really discredits any kind of point you try to make when it's clear you would rather just play easy mode at the expense of anyone else's ability to be able to enjoy the same game, regardless of balance.
as you've said, "why should they care for you, you sure as hell don't care for them".... the major difference here is that YOU are going out of your way to get into lower ranks and ruin their fun... while they are just trying to play the game.
For example, I hooked a guy twice and when he was on his third hook I carried him to the basement and dropped him in front of the hook. If that's not a clear sign of "I don't want to kill" then I don't know what is. Wanna know what my reward was? "gg ez" from that exact player.
But please keep explaining to me how I am ruining the experience for them.1
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