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Vietfox said:Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.0 -
@Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Hence the only time I camp is when people 360. I expect killers to camp when someone uses it.
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360's have no relation at all to camping and are easily countered once you get adapted to them. The trick is don't lunge which is a bad habit learned form when you 1st start playing. You still click M1 (pc) but you don't hold it you aim downward and to your left or right. Which way you aim downward of course depends on which way the survivor tries to 360 you.
If done right the survivor will always 360 themselves right into your swing guaranteeing you a hit 100% of the time. The other neat trick you can do is to use your movement keys as well so for instance ASD are great for this since you can change your momentum.
You use A to basically moonwalk your swing into them on the left, S to move yourself backwards some if you're super close and D if they go right. It's very rare that you'll ever get successfully 360'd except by the super ones and even then you'll still usually get them.
Oh sure you might miss a few here and there but on average you'll have a 90+% success rate and the really good ones are the best. Because they're so sure of their skills that they'll keep trying it instead of looping you.You'll invariably get called hacker, lag switcher etc, etc by some but a lot will respect you for outdoing them..
If you're camping because someone 360'd you then need to get better at countering it because you just showed your lack of skill. They're like the loopers that you chase for 5 gens and camp, oh sure you sacrificed them but the other 3 made it out.
Follow the advice and simply destroy them easily and you'll find that they either keep trying thus giving you easy downs or they stop doing it. If they stop doing it that generally throws them completely off balance and they tend to screw up a lot.
In both cases you get easy hits and downs and can apply map pressure better and it's even funnier if you've got NOED or someone tea bagging you and you down them.
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@purebalance said:
@Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Hence the only time I camp is when people 360. I expect killers to camp when someone uses it.
In case anyone is having trouble understanding the irony:
The advice being given to @purebalance by @Vietfox regarding 360s can apply, verbatim, to any "heated" mechanic, including the one that they themselves are complaining about in this very topic.
Edit - @powerbats - You typed that reply super fast, haha. I'm a little impressed.
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@Raccoon said:
@purebalance said:
@Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Hence the only time I camp is when people 360. I expect killers to camp when someone uses it.
In case anyone is having trouble understanding the irony:
The advice being given to @purebalance by @Vietfox regarding 360s can apply, verbatim, to any "heated" mechanic, including the one that they themselves are complaining about in this very topic.
I don't condone either. You want to abuse mechanics, then so will I. There is no irony there. The irony would be if Vietfox was also complaining about camping which I didn't see. If it was complaining about camping, then yes irony in that git gud can apply from its mouth, but not when it got downed and camped.
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@purebalance said:
@Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Hence the only time I camp is when people 360. I expect killers to camp when someone uses it.
You can 360/not 360, teabag/not teabag, camp/not camp to your heart's content.
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purebalance said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Yes they are literally an abuse of broken mechanics. There is no "get better" on console without getting a mouse. So fine I'll keep camping them and tell them to get better. It's the only time I camp. Get better.
Also I guess since we're talking about video games and not real life, killers should get to fly no matter what killer you have. Oh wait a lot of the things in this game are based on plausible real life things like STABBING SOMEONE. Now if we were talking about the Nurse's ability you'd have a point. However, running and stabbing work very much like real life in this game. So your little stab back was worthless because you seem to not be able to see how the game functions.
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@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:
@Nickenzie said: Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it :) I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all! :) So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well. @purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.
Yes they are literally an abuse of broken mechanics. There is no "get better" on console without getting a mouse. So fine I'll keep camping them and tell them to get better. It's the only time I camp. Get better.
Also I guess since we're talking about video games and not real life, killers should get to fly no matter what killer you have. Oh wait a lot of the things in this game are based on plausible real life things like STABBING SOMEONE. Now if we were talking about the Nurse's ability you'd have a point. However, running and stabbing work very much like real life in this game. So your little stab back was worthless because you seem to not be able to see how the game functions.
I've played both on console and pc. On console you just need to strife instead of using the camera, not a big deal. You should know that already.
Except it doesn't work in all cases and YOU should know that already. Hence I will camp them to my heart's content. But hey, complain about getting camped if I camp you in game for using broken mechanics.
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Camping is fine.
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PhantomMask20763 said:Vietfox said:Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.
@purebalance says 360s are trash tactics.1 -
purebalance said:
@Raccoon said:
@purebalance said:
@Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Hence the only time I camp is when people 360. I expect killers to camp when someone uses it.
In case anyone is having trouble understanding the irony:
The advice being given to @purebalance by @Vietfox regarding 360s can apply, verbatim, to any "heated" mechanic, including the one that they themselves are complaining about in this very topic.
I don't condone either. You want to abuse mechanics, then so will I. There is no irony there. The irony would be if Vietfox was also complaining about camping which I didn't see. If it was complaining about camping, then yes irony in that git gud can apply from its mouth, but not when it got downed and camped.
Wrong, i never complained about camping, i said it's not comparable to 360s0 -
@Vietfox said:
PhantomMask20763 said:
Vietfox said:
Raccoon said:@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:
@Nickenzie said: Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it :) I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all! :) So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well. @purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.
Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
@Raccoon
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.I'm sorry but what are we talking about > _ <
@PhantomMask20763
@purebalance says 360s are trash tactics.Eh, they're annoying but nothing that's hard to counter. Most of the time it's my fault because I wasn't paying much attention
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Who cares?
@purebalance is more than entitled to their opinion, like every user on this forum.
If you start to confuse opinions and feelings with facts, that's where most issues arise.
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This is the magical gen rush scenario that everyone recommends against camping killers but probably only happens 1 out of 100 games:
- Killer hooks first survivor and immediately begins camping
- All of the 3 other survivors telepathically know the killer is camping and immediately get to work on 3 separate gens
- The hooked survivor is perfectly content to spend the full 2 minutes on the hook without attempting escape or suiciding
- The survivors have no desire to challenge the camping killer and attempt saves or make distractions
- The killer doesn't have Ruin (LOL) or if he does it was cleansed or the survivors consistently hit great skill checks
- In the first 80 seconds 3 gens pop. With only 2 gens left the survivors work together to complete them before or shortly after the hooked survivor dies
- The kind of killer that camps upon first hook and every hook thereafter isn't carrying NOED (LOL) and/or is unable to down another survivor
- The survivors are able to open one or both exit gates and all 3 escape
- The killer depips and all 3 escaping survivors who hardly or never interacted with the killer or got any altruism points are miraculously able to pip and not earn an abysmal amount of BP
CAMPING COUNTERED. (Not everyone is a 4 man SWF squad who is interested in a boring ass game like the one above)
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Personally, when I play killer, I always run BBQ and Chili because of the BP bonus. I'm not running it for the aura, but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it when making gameplay decisions.
If I see 3 auras in the distance, I assume it's a bad idea to camp. If I don't see ANY auras, I assume it's a great idea to camp. Anything in between is a value proposition based on who I can see, how altruistic the survivors have been so far in that game, how badly I need to get a kill to try and slow the game down, ;how fast my particular killer can cross the map (I almost always leave the hook as Hillbilly or Nurse for example if i see ANY auras), etc.
If all 3 of the other survivors are hiding behind a gen or in a lock, well then it sucks to be me and it sucks to be the person on the hook. That is not the LIKELY reason I'm not seeing any auras, so I'm going to rely on the more likely assumption that someone is within 40m waiting for me to leave, so I should start looking for them. That occupies 2-3 survivors instead of giving a free unhook. I
Camping is not fun for the person on the hook, but BHVR needs to balance their game already. My personal philosophy on this issue, even when I'm the survivor being camped (which I play roughly 50/50 so I frequently am lol), is "Don't hate the player. Hate the game!" This is something they should have fixed a long time ago, instead of doing all these band-aid fixes that never really work.
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Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:purebalance said:
When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
So this counts for both sides.
There's a difference.
As a killer it's your job to check gens and don't let survivors do all of them so you can kill them all.
As a survivor your job is to finish the gens and escape, meaning that it's not their main priority to run towards the killer and get some Bold bps.
If survivors "genrush" it's because killer is giving them the chance to do it.
That's why you got perks like PGTW, it works so damn well on killers with less map pressure.
Pop Goes The Weasel
Sooo, I really think this perk needs a buff.
Something like destroying a freshly repaired gen.
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Vietfox said:Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.0 -
brokedownpalace said:This is the magical gen rush scenario that everyone recommends against camping killers but probably only happens 1 out of 100 games:
- Killer hooks first survivor and immediately begins camping
- All of the 3 other survivors telepathically know the killer is camping and immediately get to work on 3 separate gens
- The hooked survivor is perfectly content to spend the full 2 minutes on the hook without attempting escape or suiciding
- The survivors have no desire to challenge the camping killer and attempt saves or make distractions
- The killer doesn't have Ruin (LOL) or if he does it was cleansed or the survivors consistently hit great skill checks
- In the first 80 seconds 3 gens pop. With only 2 gens left the survivors work together to complete them before or shortly after the hooked survivor dies
- The kind of killer that camps upon first hook and every hook thereafter isn't carrying NOED (LOL) and/or is unable to down another survivor
- The survivors are able to open one or both exit gates and all 3 escape
- The killer depips and all 3 escaping survivors who hardly or never interacted with the killer or got any altruism points are miraculously able to pip and not earn an abysmal amount of BP
CAMPING COUNTERED. (Not everyone is a 4 man SWF squad who is interested in a boring ass game like the one above)1 -
Redd said:
Personally, when I play killer, I always run BBQ and Chili because of the BP bonus. I'm not running it for the aura, but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it when making gameplay decisions.
If I see 3 auras in the distance, I assume it's a bad idea to camp. If I don't see ANY auras, I assume it's a great idea to camp. Anything in between is a value proposition based on who I can see, how altruistic the survivors have been so far in that game, how badly I need to get a kill to try and slow the game down, ;how fast my particular killer can cross the map (I almost always leave the hook as Hillbilly or Nurse for example if i see ANY auras), etc.
If all 3 of the other survivors are hiding behind a gen or in a lock, well then it sucks to be me and it sucks to be the person on the hook. That is not the LIKELY reason I'm not seeing any auras, so I'm going to rely on the more likely assumption that someone is within 40m waiting for me to leave, so I should start looking for them. That occupies 2-3 survivors instead of giving a free unhook. I
Camping is not fun for the person on the hook, but BHVR needs to balance their game already. My personal philosophy on this issue, even when I'm the survivor being camped (which I play roughly 50/50 so I frequently am lol), is "Don't hate the player. Hate the game!" This is something they should have fixed a long time ago, instead of doing all these band-aid fixes that never really work.
But only camping gets so much hate.1 -
@Tsulan said:
Camping isn't fun. It's not fun for the survivor, it's not fun for the killer. But neither are looping, DS, Flashlights, or completing all gens in 3 minutes.
But only camping gets so much hate.All gens done in minutes is the most overused excuse still that needs to go away, it happens rarely especially after the BNP nerf. If all gens are being done in 3 minutes constantly that's on the killer not the survivors or the game mechanics.
Perks and addons have no correlation to camping, just as they no have correlation to looping.except as excuses for why they're done.
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Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.
Lol, just to confirm what i was saying.
I play as a killer quite often but still people seem to not believe me.
Tell me, do you really think 360s are a broken mechanic?0 -
Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:purebalance said:
When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
So this counts for both sides.
There's a difference.
As a killer it's your job to check gens and don't let survivors do all of them so you can kill them all.
As a survivor your job is to finish the gens and escape, meaning that it's not their main priority to run towards the killer and get some Bold bps.
If survivors "genrush" it's because killer is giving them the chance to do it.
That's why you got perks like PGTW, it works so damn well on killers with less map pressure.
Pop Goes The Weasel
Sooo, I really think this perk needs a buff.
Something like destroying a freshly repaired gen.
A buff? That perk is really strong already.
I've managed to get 4K without a single gen being done quite a few times.0 -
Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Raccoon said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@Nickenzie said:
Vietfox said:
purebalance said: @Vietfox said: purebalance said:
@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping. I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape. @purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter it Stop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360. @purebalance
Oh excuse me, i'll run in a straight line from now on so you don't feel bad and can get an easy kill instead of working for it
I'll do something better than running in a straight line! I just won't move at all!
So if someone 1000x stronger than you was chasing you in real life you'd run at them? A swing/stab should hit when you run into a killer's hitbox. It's abuse of mechanics. Learn to evade without using broken mechanics. One of the times I DO camp is when shitters want to 360. They deserve a ######### playstyle used on them as well.
@purebalance
Do i really need to tell u the difference between games and real life?
If you wanna be that realistic then tell me why survivors can't jump over traps.
U get rekt by 360s and instead of getting better at this game you rather complain about them and call them trash tactics.Replace "360s" with "camping," and we can ride this irony train straight to Emerald Ranch!
Sure, you compared before camping with the hatch, now do the same with 360s. That makes so much sense (not killer biased at all)
I play often as a killer but i would like to get some opinions from reasonable killer mains like @PhantomMask20763 @George_Soros and @powerbats (who has been maining killer lately)
Sorry for tagging you guys btw.
Lol, just to confirm what i was saying.
I play as a killer quite often but still people seem to not believe me.
Tell me, do you really think 360s are a broken mechanic?2 -
Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:purebalance said:
When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
So this counts for both sides.
There's a difference.
As a killer it's your job to check gens and don't let survivors do all of them so you can kill them all.
As a survivor your job is to finish the gens and escape, meaning that it's not their main priority to run towards the killer and get some Bold bps.
If survivors "genrush" it's because killer is giving them the chance to do it.
That's why you got perks like PGTW, it works so damn well on killers with less map pressure.
Pop Goes The Weasel
Sooo, I really think this perk needs a buff.
Something like destroying a freshly repaired gen.
A buff? That perk is really strong already.
I've managed to get 4K without a single gen being done quite a few times.
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powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
Camping isn't fun. It's not fun for the survivor, it's not fun for the killer. But neither are looping, DS, Flashlights, or completing all gens in 3 minutes.
But only camping gets so much hate.All gens done in minutes is the most overused excuse still that needs to go away, it happens rarely especially after the BNP nerf. If all gens are being done in 3 minutes constantly that's on the killer not the survivors or the game mechanics.
Perks and addons have no correlation to camping, just as they no have correlation to looping.except as excuses for why they're done.
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The ones complaining about camping saying it's not a strategy are the same ones pallet looping and running DS...😑😑3
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KingSavageGaming said:The ones complaining about camping saying it's not a strategy are the same ones pallet looping and running DS...😑😑2
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@KingSavageGaming said:
The ones complaining about camping saying it's not a strategy are the same ones pallet looping and running DS...😑😑Insert survivors doing anything and then the ones doing the camping are the ones complaining.
It's both sides not just one side doing something the other side doesn't like.
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@SenzuDuck said:
The only types of players that camp (from the start) camping near end game I think is reasonable in most peoples eyes.- Just doing it to annoy a player.
- Are just bad players.
The whole BBQ excuse is ridiculous, what is it, 40 metres? That's pretty huge, anyone passing through a 40 metre radius and not showing up is honestly the pettiest excuse for camping honestly.
I run BBQ and it's mostly for the points because half the time I forget to even look around, especially as huntress because I'm searching lockers for more hatchets.
Get good people, more practice means you wont have to camp as much!
I find reloading before hooking beneficial.
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I have not.
I hate camping survivors.
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Build a wall around hooked survivors. The wall only works against killers. Better yet, make hooked guys disappear as soon as they're hanged and respawn "n" seconds later at an unknown location. Bam. Got rid of camping AND tunneling in one stroke. And give everyone BP.
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Condorloco_26 said:
Build a wall around hooked survivors. The wall only works against killers. Better yet, make hooked guys disappear as soon as they're hanged and respawn "n" seconds later at an unknown location. Bam. Got rid of camping AND tunneling in one stroke. And give everyone BP.
Entity: "Aw, man, another Claudette in dark clothes?"
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Here's my "Camp story" time.
Once I let my girlfriend play her first game while I took a shower. She picked leatherface and we were around rank 12 right after rank reset. So when i get back the survivors had completed all the gens, and were running in circles around her repeatedly blinding and tea-bagging...LOL.
So I grabbed the controller and chainsawed one. Laid the p3 Claudette on the hook and stood literally in her face with my chainsaw revved. Hahaha. I guess they were friends tho because another went in for the stupid save. So I hooked the other and did the exact same thing.
I should of felt dirty, but it was a glorious win imo.4 -
@Mullato said:
Here's my "Camp story" time.Once I let my girlfriend play her first game while I took a shower. She picked leatherface and we were around rank 12 right after rank reset. So when i get back the survivors had completed all the gens, and were running in circles around her repeatedly blinding and tea-bagging...LOL.
_ So I grabbed the controller_ and chainsawed one. Laid the p3 Claudette on the hook and stood literally in her face with my chainsaw revved. Hahaha. I guess they were friends tho because another went in for the stupid save. So I hooked the other and did the exact same thing.
I should of felt dirty, but it was a glorious win imo.
Controller on Killer. Ew. I did that when I first played over 2 years ago on PC and I wised up.
Your entitled to how you want to play but I would rather play on a dance pad than a controller for Killer.
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Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:purebalance said:
When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
So this counts for both sides.
There's a difference.
As a killer it's your job to check gens and don't let survivors do all of them so you can kill them all.
As a survivor your job is to finish the gens and escape, meaning that it's not their main priority to run towards the killer and get some Bold bps.
If survivors "genrush" it's because killer is giving them the chance to do it.
That's why you got perks like PGTW, it works so damn well on killers with less map pressure.
Pop Goes The Weasel
Sooo, I really think this perk needs a buff.
Something like destroying a freshly repaired gen.
A buff? That perk is really strong already.
I've managed to get 4K without a single gen being done quite a few times.0 -
And about camping i camp only when i dont have a choice like last victim and gens are done hatch spawn gate are open etc.Or when surv tbag me.0
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Larcz said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:Vietfox said:Tsulan said:purebalance said:
When the "way they want" is detrimental to everyone involved, even themselves, yes you need an excuse. Camping hurts both sides. Nobody wants 10k point games where you barely single pip.
So this counts for both sides.
There's a difference.
As a killer it's your job to check gens and don't let survivors do all of them so you can kill them all.
As a survivor your job is to finish the gens and escape, meaning that it's not their main priority to run towards the killer and get some Bold bps.
If survivors "genrush" it's because killer is giving them the chance to do it.
That's why you got perks like PGTW, it works so damn well on killers with less map pressure.
Pop Goes The Weasel
Sooo, I really think this perk needs a buff.
Something like destroying a freshly repaired gen.
A buff? That perk is really strong already.
I've managed to get 4K without a single gen being done quite a few times.1 -
Nikkiwhat said:This forum just makes me laugh even more at how whiny killers are, lot of ya are some entitled pieces of work......1
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Well, I didn't start to camp more with the locker buff. I just assume that there are survivors within 40m of the hook and search/"camp" the area.
I have yet to see a survivor who jumps into a locker when I down someone and waits until I hook them, and to let the BBQ effect worn-out.
And often there is someone near, comming for the rescue.
Or I just play the hag and I don't care, because I put a trap down and start searching/trapping the area.2 -
@purebalance said:
@Vietfox said:
purebalance said:@scorpio said:
@JanTheMan said: Rebel_Raven said: JanTheMan said: Aw, so this is the new excuse. You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right? If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results. Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that.
Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion.
Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot camping is a legit strategy
If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.
I abhor 360, but if you are talking about looping that's on you. 360=garbage strat abusing mechanics looping is using mind games and perks to escape.
@purebalance
Lmao 360 = garbage? Learn to aim/counter itStop abusing broken mechanics. On console it's not the same as PC where you can aim as well. You're trash if you need to resort to 360.
You must suck if someone 360's you on console lol.
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