Nobody mentions that Adrenaline is actually more broken than DS

@CakeDuty said:
Adrenaline is a very situnational perk for a survivor, it can be either really useful (getting saved from hook after gens pop/getting it mid chase) otherwise it's a waste of a perk slot. It's a perk that rewards your for making it to the end game and it's a one time use, which balances it out. Is it frustrating as a killer? Yes, but there is one counter to it.... kill the survivor before the last gen pops.

There was an awesome post someone had about rebalancing the game duration and survivor's ability to genrush to hell and beyond. Basically, though if by end game you have less than two hooks and no kills, you're basically dependent on survivor mistakes at that point. If the survivors don't mess up at the end game, you will de-pip pretty much guaranteed unless you have NOED or you can insta-down with Myers, etc.,. Likewise, if you get a kill before 2 gens are done, you are probably going to steamroll into a 4k or a 3k with a hatch escape.

I tend to think, the only time I tend to 2k is when I'm playing a killer that I'm awful with or if there are some obviously bad players on the other side.

Adrenaline just makes those really bad games where you have 3-4 gens done in first chase that much more awful to play. The devs said they'd already look at insta-heals being too powerful, well, adrenaline IS an insta-heal. It's incredibly demoralizing to invest time into hitting a team when they run away from last few remaining gens so you chase them, only to have everyone heal up to full and you're screwed because there's no way you can hit someone twice before gates are open and/or they start bodyblocking for those that you did manage to injure. v.v

@Kind_Lemon said:
Side question: Does anyone know what happens if I drop a survivor that has Adrenaline? Does it put them into the injured state from the dying state so I can smack them?

If I'm not wrong Adrenaline becomes wasted if it activates while being carried by a killer.

@Vietfox said:
Don't like it? Kill them before they pop the last gen.
Some killer addons + ebony mori are broken as well, but i just deal with it instead of crying.

Few problems with your statement here.

Offering a really blunt "solution" to the problem is humiliating. Don't like getting camped? Don't get hooked. Don't like getting tunnelled? Don't get spotted.

I'm curious to know why you think ebony mori is broken. If I am lucky I see like one ebony memento every 20 games, but it's my fault for getting hooked in the first place. Besides, moris are a one time use unless the killer has more. Perks are permanent.

@Vietfox said:
Don't like it? Kill them before they pop the last gen.
Some killer addons + ebony mori are broken as well, but i just deal with it instead of crying.

Unlike alot of survivors perks basically everything killer has can be countered nut survivors have perks that have no counters and are extremely safe and risk free.

@Vietfox said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:

@Vietfox said:

Don't like it? Kill them before they pop the last gen.

Some killer addons + ebony mori are broken as well, but i just deal with it instead of crying.

Unlike alot of survivors perks basically everything killer has can be countered nut survivors have perks that have no counters and are extremely safe and risk free.

How do i counter MYC, by letting the survivor die? LOL
Adrenaline is fine because, as many others said, survivor has to play with 3 perks during the whole match and stay alive.

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@Vietfox said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:

@Vietfox said:

@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:

@Vietfox said:

Don't like it? Kill them before they pop the last gen.

Some killer addons + ebony mori are broken as well, but i just deal with it instead of crying.



Unlike alot of survivors perks  basically everything killer has can be countered nut survivors have perks that have no counters and are extremely safe and risk free.



How do i counter MYC, by letting the survivor die? LOL

Adrenaline is fine because, as many others said, survivor has to play with 3 perks during the whole match and stay alive.

You hide

I was actually expecting this answer.
Adrenaline? You kill.
Thanks for coming.

And gen rushing with second chance perks counters killing

@Ryuhi said:

@White_Owl said:

@Kind_Lemon said:
Side question: Does anyone know what happens if I drop a survivor that has Adrenaline? Does it put them into the injured state from the dying state so I can smack them?

If I'm not wrong Adrenaline becomes wasted if it activates while being carried by a killer.

nope, it activates as soon as they regain control. So if they get free from a killer stun, or if they get hooked and unhooked. I've seen it used with breakdown and deliverance to some pretty silly results.

Really? I remember seeing people complain about that occurrence with Adrenaline... maybe it was just a random bug.

Is it? I don't think DS is broken, at all, but I don't think Adrenaline is either. It's my fault if I let them get away just because of Adrenaline.

@Vietfox said:
I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly

Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.

I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol

I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.

@Vietfox said:
GodDamn_Angela said:

@Vietfox said:

I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.

I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.

I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.

If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly

Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.

I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol

I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.

@GodDamn_Angela
Noed is a win win for the killer imo.
They dont cleanse totems? Free instadowns
They do? They didnt genrush

True.

I never actually thought about it like that. Very good point.

@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said:

Unnamed_Freak said:

My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.

Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.



@Unnamed_Freak 

I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

@Unnamed_Freak
Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
Edit: quite a few times

Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said:

Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said:

Unnamed_Freak said:

My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action. Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him. @Unnamed_Freak

I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)



I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.



@Unnamed_Freak 

Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)

Edit: quite a few times

Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

@Unnamed_Freak
I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.

3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.

@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said:

Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said:

Unnamed_Freak said:

@Vietfox said: Unnamed_Freak said:

My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.        @Unnamed_Freak

I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors. For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet) I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all. And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion. @Unnamed_Freak

Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)

Edit: quite a few times



Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.



@Unnamed_Freak

I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.

If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.

3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.

@Unnamed_Freak
Yeah some do, it's hilarious. I don't understand how rank 1 people keep falling for that.

Because most rank 1 players are potatoes, ranking only requires time after all. I for example almost got to rank 1 with pre-buff Wraith, and I didn't know how Doc even worked.

@White_Owl said:

@Kind_Lemon said:
Side question: Does anyone know what happens if I drop a survivor that has Adrenaline? Does it put them into the injured state from the dying state so I can smack them?

If I'm not wrong Adrenaline becomes wasted if it activates while being carried by a killer.

There was a bug a few months ago and it was quite funny actually where it'd launch the survivor off the killers shoulder as if they'd used a rocket launcher. It was basically a sprint burst flying in air and landing running and I'd gone to body block the killer and the survivor went flying past my head in air.

@TAG said:

I need to see a video of this because it sounds hilarious.

I'll have to go back and see if it was one of my recorded games because it's priceless when you see it from either view.