Another camping thread - Its getting worse

Go search camping on the Steam forums and tell me its worse now.

I never had problems with camping/tunneling when Undying was nerfed. It got pretty bad after the DS nerf. I seen the survival rate. That doesn’t really mean much. I think DS should work twice. It’s an anti tunnel perk and it should do its job better than it currently does.

There has been word. The last QA stated it was abandon. You can stop holding your breath now.

I wouldn't mind DS working after each hook state, IF the game was properly balanced.

But not with the current state of the game.

People asked for a additional objectives for survivors, in order to reduce the pressure on killers. What we got instead was a additional objective for killers which have already to little time and end up doing the most basic thing to "secure" a kill: camp.

I’m actually not a survivor main. Camping/tunneling is a big problem. Killers can literally keep survivors from playing and ruin their games. This is something that happens in almost every game. DS is a anti tunnel perk and it needs to do it’s job better.

You'd see every survivor run DS if it worked twice.

good point

I would just jump in lockers lol.

Tbh i dont think the devs will do anything about it. They said they find camping a legit strat and i think they are too lazy to try change it and lets be honest they would probably ######### that up like everything else. I can see why killers do it but it does suck for survivors and ruins the mood, i dont get why they kept nerfing killer and nerfed DS so hard it doesnt do its job, yes DS needed a nerf but not this severe. I do find camping or tunneling happens 3 games out of 5 and yeah its not fun its depressing.

In terms of killer i dont get why tbags are so bad, i play a bit of killer and just dont look at the exit gate if they are all there, no chance to change tbagging without doing a ridiculous cooldown on crouching which i find stupid.

It's the inevitable consequence of it. Ruins the survivors' fun but also your own, because I know no human being that actually has fun standing in one area. Trolls might think it's funny, but it isn't stimulating or 'fun'. Perhaps the intent isn't malicious, but this is the consequence. And even then the intent isn't all that brilliant if that's your strategic choice before all gens have popped. Game's never lost until they're out of the gate. But then again current metas have conditioned many to obsess over generators.

Although I'll agree that my first post was a bit 'too much', I suppose I was frustrated to see this when I don't resort to this sort of mindset when I'm playing killer, but those I face do far too often. It's tiring and I honestly think longer queues are worth the gain in fun games.

They nerf tunneling/camping you won't have any killers left. I know people say this, but it's all that's left. They nerf those two things, they nerf the remaining strategies and they break their game.

Facecamping is normal. But you can try using the solution with the Executioner's cage. When a survivor is on a hook, he will teleport to the farthest hook except the basement. But if the survivor is on the hook in the basement, then he will not teleport anywhere.

How can you get good if you're being camped, lol. I can run the killer for 5 gens, then get camped on first hook, but I somehow need to get better? The devs said recently that they are gonna try to deal with facecamping. It doesn't matter if your team escapes... the survivor that died had their game ruined. That's not fair.

Oh, I know. I'm hoping it works this time 😆

Well I have had survivors be not dick heads and even pity me when I wasn't as good as I am now. So maybe I'm just luckier or more pleasant. Doesn't truly matter. But even then, why should they show consideration for your fun? The only fun to be had is being chased and it's entirely up to you to provide that. Otherwise, what are they going to do? Sandbag their teammates? No, they'll do gens. And they'll go fast if you're not doing a good job or the map is #########. Survivor playstyle only has one form of variance: Do Gens and get chased. Now I'll agree that sweaty teams that are way too efficient are the worst, but at least they tend to be skilful and make for fun chases.

You make a fair point that fun is subjective. But I make a fair point that the game would be far better without resorting to these strategies pre-maturely. You might be happy you made the right strategic choice, but was it fun to execute? I refuse to believe camping or purposely tunnelling a guy three times in a row is actually fun to a normal human being. I once again thank the many streamers that forego this optimal play for fun (and still often win), they do inspire more people these days.

I will agree that context is important. From what I was reacting to, it seemed like people just camp when their ruin pops or gens pop rather quickly at the start. What you've described is survivors desperately trying to do gens quickly over doing the fun part of the game. A good strategy at endgame, dumb if there are still other gens, so now they get punished. Your strategy was the right one if you really wanted to win. And one I'd use if I was sent to the map or if survivors were clearly trying to sweat super hard that hits unfun levels. But, the thing is, if they're just pulling a soloQ and I have two downs in a similar manner, I'll rarely camp them, because it's ######### boring and dull, even if optimal. Because optimal strategy and play in DBD is a scourge. And surprisingly, I cannot say I NEVER get consideration from survivors, because I do, albeit more rarely, but that's because the power of mercy is mostly in my hands as killer. Perhaps my more chase-oriented and lack of care for securing stages/kills is what makes some people (survivors are people like killers) want to be nicer. Probably. Or I'm just lucky.

Unsurprisingly, my killer games have been me devoid of stress, beyond crappy map design and collision. Survivor games are sucking even more unless I'm in a team.

Wait fr?

Survivors keep demanding every good thing killers have get nerfed and then wonder why killers tunnel and camp.

We tested passive timer slowing/stopping and survivors abused it. We already have a perk, Camaraderie, that pauses the timer but absolutely zero survivors use it because there are better perks with more game utility. The reality of the situation is this, people who face camp as their main mode of playstyle will not stop unless something changes at a core level that makes face camping impossible. There is a limit to what punitive actions can be taken with the current core gameplay in place before you start having negative impacts on the vast majority of players who don't camp like that.

It would be great to say there is a solution that would work well without having potential for abuse by the opposing side, being damaging to the majority of people who don't play like that, and able to keep the gameplay intact as is ( though it needs a revamp anyway). Unfortunately, there is just isn't.