I Hope All Exhaustion Perks Get Nerfed Into the Ground

Even if I were to believe you (seeing as I have never had my games almost done in one chase) that isn’t an exhaustion perk problem, that sounds like a map problem.

Part of learning killer is understanding maps and tiles. If you know someone is running you for what seems like too long break chase.

You have to in order to pressure the rest of the survivors. I have seen so many killers chase one person, walk by a gen being worked on and not even bother to kick that gen/injure that survivor. It’s baffling.

Im not saying there aren’t strong loops but there is no loop that will cost you the game unless you never brake chase.

Perhaps it could leave you needing to perform a recovery animation, like a hands on knees deep breaths thing. A bit like having to perform a mend action. But it doesn't make you take a health state, instead your exhaustion cooldown doesn't start until you've done it.

Lol I know this is not at all the point you were trying to make but what's stopping you from running Dark Sense and an exhaustion perk o.O

I don't have any problems with exhaustion perks even when I play killer, I think your idea isn't bad but I don't really like the thing with dead hard, if the killer misses a swing he almost instantly can swing again so I think it's useless if you're slowed down after using dead hard, but that's just my opinion.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I would argue killers are the exact same way (mostly). This game has how many perks for each side? like over 100? I dont even know really, but it is a pretty chonky number, YET most killers and most survivors will use the same STRONG perks. I can not go ONE match without a killer running corrupt intervention/than/ruin...not all 3 usually, but almost always at least 2 of those. I will even admit I USE ruin/than as killer. It is a POWERFUL way to slow the game down. On the same token, dang near all survivors run ONE of the aforementioned exhaustion perks BECAUSE they give you a trump card in a chase. One of those is usually coupled with DS too XD. I guess I could live with nerfs to most exhaustion perks, if they nerf ways for killers to slow the game down. give and take...but idk HOW you would nerf like balanced landing or lithe without making them worthless...except maybe increasing exhaust time so its available less often.

I have no problem at all with them, death hard well.. just wait it out and try o catch them off because it is easily done :) I play a lot of survivor just as much as killer :)

Perhaps if you could use more than one exhaustion perk, you might have a point. But effectively with the cooldown, you don't get very much use out of more than one. I think that having one exhaustion perk, one information perk, one team assist perk, etc. is good. Perhaps the problem is that exhaustion perks are so good that you almost always want to bring one?

Exhaustion perks are all about skillful use once every 60 seconds. As such, they need to be impactful, and rely on player agency to use. In general, this is the case. How do you nerf a skill based perk with a long cooldown without making it useless? I just don't see it.

Completly disagree. Dead hard is probably the most used exaution perk from good team/players, and that only speak for it self. If you use sprint I can decide to commit or not in chase, very strong perk, but if not 99% it will not be used in chase, but before, very strong in certain situation. Lithe and balance are different sprint. Smash it and head on are good to make distance after the stuntman, so other sprint. However dead hard is unique and complete different from the other, cause not obly you can use to evade an hit and take more distance, like the other, but you can use it in chase, to correct loop mistakes and have a second chance even at very safe tiles, to negate blood Lust by dead hard to the pallet and drop it forcing the brake, and to correct positioning errors and use it for distance to make to the loop and even worse to chain loopss that you Cant normally chain. And also to bait hits and than heal a slug into their dead hard to, chain with unbreakable etc. Anibody nows it, and surv mains dont want to admit cause they want to abuse their wonderful toy until it get fixed. Really way better then other exaution, too versatile and only 60 sec exaution, too much good, another level.

You can say what yoi want, devs data will talk and we Will see. It Is clear that the most difficult team to face abuse it, nobody talks or complain about smash it, and after nerf nobody complain about balance landing, because now it's ok. Dead hard is a problema, because you lose time to commit with an injured survivor, tryng to have a down that can give you advantage, and make you lose precious time, cause you have ottenere to commit to an injured survivor. It can deny clean shots that requires skill, without skill by survivor. You have to respect, cause good or crazy survivor can use frame perfect, and you have always to respect the perk. Sprint perk are non other like the sprint you gave a survivor when you hit them, often "ok" (99% sprint maybe bust the perk), but you can left them and to other things, dead hard you say make you lose sale time and momentum, but during a chase is a different think then in neutral game, it is a potential third health state. Ok you can sprint to a loop, like with dead hard, but it is too versatile and decisive. I dont know, however one thing is sure, make bad map design worse, making loop , especially goid ones, even more safe.

I completely disagree man, for me the game is too much survivor side, and that is what most people thinks and devs admit too that at high level is that. We Will see. Unbalance = boring match and killer mains will change game unistalling, make you wait 30 min forma game. Dead hard rework maybe can help, also make more variety in meta, exploring other exaustion perk that nobody uses, make the game more intresting. Like when everybody use only ruin or pop, and devs deduce to change things... Now with certain build bof of them are good, and their effects doesnt work togheter. If dead hard will Be used by anybody like old Ds, is only a meaning of time. And we Know devs change their mind very often.

This Time I agree, even if devs are tryng to balance, fix, and give counter to everything, competent Swf are better then solo, even if strong solo survivor can be really match changing. Top tier killers are in another planet then m1 killers. However map desing, excluding dead zones problem, is on survivor side, and especially some items need to be nerfed, to make in pair with other. From perk side they are making a good job buffing non meta, and I continue to think that the only meta perk they need to give an eye on is, like I said, dead hard, and prove Thyself. Busted killer add-on are also gone/rework for the most part, is almost all ok. I'm waiting for solo survivor buff and face camo nerf they announce, and a killer buff to conpensate, cause swf are too strong to face most times.

I see this post getting a lot of hate, I assume mostly from survivors that rely heavily on these exhaustion perks. I like the gist of the original post. Lose the 130% part, but losing some stealth for free exhaustion getaways would be a nice tradeoff and at least give the strongest perks for survivors a little bit of downside

I think Exhaustion perks in general are fine, just a few are busted like DH, SB, Adre (or Overcome). BL is very map dependent, Lithe takes you away from a safe tile (and is a little map dependent), Smash Hit depends on the Killer not respecting pallets and Head On is more for fun than anything else.

Adrenaline could be fixed by just removing the sprint boost if it heals you, or make it a heal over time.