Pallet looping

Pallet looping should still be option, just not the strongest option.

@fml said:
do you know any other options?
if yes i would like to know them as i said im not very good at this game so you can only help me

You can stealth as best as you can or complete the generators as fast as you can.

You could also use the pallets as chase breakers to make it easier for you to break line of sight and hide (though this is only recommended if you have perks that make it easier to hide, like Urban Evasion).

@fml said:
@Mc_Harty but when im stealth i dont get points for chase and sometimes points from saves because in my rank 14 killers are almost every time close to hooked
and idc about rank because i dont have much time play and when im rank 9 or less then rank reset comes

Hey man, you asked for alternatives to pallet looping.

Shame that stealth doesn't reward you much Blood Points though.

@fml
I think the sentiment of a lot of people here is that while looping is an option you absolutely have at your disposal, it is a negative play experience and should probably be something that is de-incentivized. So, don't hate the player... hate the game. (Except I love the game.)

You do realize all that’ll change is when you throw the pallet down right? The god pallet in the shack is still going to be amazing just less amazing. And before you assume you know everything about every survivor just know I prefer to play steathy and have won many times doing that but as I said when I’m found an start getting chased what else am I supposed to do that is going to be effective answer me that question.I not scared of pallets getting nerfed at all btw

Los and hide, use a stun to get a corner real fast and crouch so the killer may run by you and lose you since they ca'nt easily see past ther stomachs, Just a few ideas.

Pallet looping won't be an issue for me at all after this patch cuz you won't be cheating me out of hits by teleportation anymore.

@ThePloopz said:
@AlexAnarchy you say that like killers are stupid and will fall for that all the time. You know how many times hiding at their feet has worked out of all the times I’ve tried it? Twice just twice. So I stopped using that one. And those jukes and hiding you suggested try doing that against a doctor who loves to shock everywhere even if he doesn’t hit here comes the scream. Myers is tier 3 why would try to juke that? Just loop him until it’s over then I’ll try a juke.Survivors aren’t gonna be stupid and take unnecessary risks like that. Then there’s the killers who don’t break a pallet but then cry loop.If the killer decides to not break a pallet I don’t think survivors can be blamed for looping that pallet. Let’s be honest here if I’m a good looper and I don’t looper the killer I’m hurting my team rather than helping them because I’m not wasting the killers most valuable resource.

See? Your just making every single same excuse any other pallet loop extremist does, For doctor, an easy way to stealth him is wait till he is chasing someone else, use this to get madness 1 already and then it's so flipping easy after by just using lockers when you need if he gets too close, as for myers 3, yeah, looping helps but you are in no way entitled to escape a tier 3 myers anyway, that's your fault he got there while chasing you.
Pallet looping has nothing to do with pallets being down, Shame on anyone who even posting that as they do know better.

It's as I said, survivors would rather make excuses to use exploits or whatever they somehow thinks guarantees a win when I ask..how does not getting out of a chase guarantee you a win?

If you do it too me then I guarantee you I'll spend the whole round making sure your game is miserable, why? because I can as I am the host when killer and it's not against the rules for me to do it one game.

I and many others of my now friends in the community can win just fine playing stealth only and even pip, why ca'nt other survivors get skilled enough to do it?

Just too be sure as well, I'm not getting all over you personally, I just get tired of hearing the same excuses given every single time anyone says stealthplay exist just fine still.

But the fact of the matter is, just because something does'nt work 100% of the time does not mean it's bad, cuz once again,survivors are not entitled to win every single game, nor are killers entitled to even get 2 kills every single game.

@ThePloopz said:
See I know the madness trick and the locker trick but good doctors at least in my experience check lockers so I don’t want to go in them because if they check it’s an instant down and I bought no time for the team. As for myers thing yea I’m not entitled to escape him but I definitely can escape him so why would I not escape him. I put the part about pallets being down because I have gotten hate mail from killers due to me Iooping a pallet they just refused to break so I wasn’t sure what killers counted as pallet looping. 
 Now to answer your question not getting out of a chase can get you win because its get you points so depending on when the chase started and how look at winning this gets you a win by pipping. Or it can get you the survival type win by allowing your team to get gens done and doors open you run towards the exit you’re gonna get shielded by your team unless the killer has a one shot ability of and if they don’t that’s an escape.
 And as a last thing just because someone pallet loops doesn’t mean they’re bad and doesn’t mean the person who plays stealthy is better than them. I know people who are really good but enjoy be chased so they pallet loop all their skill isn’t gone now because because they pallet loop. I’m not gonna lie pallet looping is pretty funny sometimes especially when there’s mind gaming going on.

Actually it does...as the game was originally designed and still sadly as much as it has gotten harder is still deisgned for stealth, the devs have made it clear they intend on getting the game back to short chases so saying pallet looping is gonna exist forever is not true obviously as it makes chases long and frustrating.
We are already getting a fix to the vacuums which as you and other say will reduce a loop, already shorter chases obviously, and we already been told of a pallet looping nerf coming in september , so what will you and others do when pallet looping is turned into short chases?
frankly i wish the devs would stop bandaid fixing and focus more on giving survivors more to do to help them feel less like pallet looping is the only win.

@ThePloopz said:
Actually no it doesn’t mean you’re better if the best steath dbd player decides they want to pallet loop for a day that doesn’t all of a sudden make them worse than anyone else who plays steathy. They still have all the skills they just aren’t displaying them for that day or for however long they want to do this. It’d be crazyness to say otherwise.

And as I said before I’m not worried about what they do to pallet looping because it won’t affect me very much

Reality is, when someone chooses to take unintended gameplay mechanics over intended gameplays mechanics, that person has bought the wrong game.
You would'nt play a tenchu game without being stealthy as those games are made to be played that way, You would'nt play team fortress two peacefully as it's not made that way.
You would'nt play an actual horror game of today as not stealth because...they are'nt made that way and you'll die most of the time.

Does'nt really matter though anyway cuz even if pallet looping was removed like infinites were, it will just lead to survivors finding another thing to abuse and make meta.

Factoring point is, no one who plays this game can even remotely make a claim that they did not know this was going to be meant to be a stealth game for survivor play as the very idea and concept itself screams stealth out in your face.

@ThePloopz said:
It doesn’t matter to me how the devs intended things to be played in any game really in fact in a lot of cases it’s good when players play differently than the intented way.In this case I think it’s good people didn’t play the intended way and found out about looping because now like you said they may give us something better that we possibly would’ve never have gotten.
 
I always looked at pallet looping as getting the most value from our pallets while also using up the killers time.  I think if they did give survivors something else they can nerf pallets so when a survivor sees a pallet they’re not like “ thank god there’s a pallet” and more like “oh there’s a pallet here I guess I’ll use this”

Your glad that survivors found a way to exploit hitboxes and make more than 3 killers pretty much unplayable?
Your glad that an asymmetrical game is the exact opposite of what an asymmetrical game is supposed to be? I dare say i never heard of any online game where the smaller team is just there to be bullied and treated like ######### by the bigger team.

And the matter of fact it is, it's now having to be fixed...what amazes me though is the devs would rather apply a ton of bandaid fixes then just revert the part of the patch that made this issue, unless these devs are purposely trying to piss off an entire playerbase into eventually leaving the game and letting it die as soon as something better comes out.

Sure I agree that survivors need more to do and such but pallet looping is not good for the game. period.

When I started playing killer for the first time. I played Myers a lot because he was my first bought DLC. Then I moved onto Hag when she came out. Then my progress reset and I picked up Trapper and prestiged him to 3. After looping became a thing, I very quickly started playing Nurse a lot and now I basically only play Nurse. Because she is the only killer that can get kills like killers are supposed to. Nurse is probably the most balanced killer in the game.

I'm looking forward to the PTB tommorow. I'll be excited for survivors accidentaly dropping a pallet expecting to teleport to the other side, but actually just getting hit due to vaccums being gone. 8-)

Me too but I really hope the devs are already expecting survivors mains to ball and whine about how they cant survive anymore without ther teleportation powers.

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People that say that pallet looping is "ok" don't play Killer often.
I just did 4 games in a row vs SWF 1 loops me all day the others rush gens, my eyes are bleeding.

I agree with most things said above, there has to be a change.

Looping isnt fun but as a survivor you want to live and that means not getting hit. So ofcourse people would tend to looping if that is what it takes to survive. Why purposely lower your chances of survival?

And face camping and tunnel vision increases your chance of killing. Why does the community hate it? Because its a cheap way of winning, abusing of what is somewhat mechanically "broken".

In theory what you said is right but in game its a different story.

Reach rank 1 Killer and play vs SWF, i promise you, your opinion will change. Its not about survival its abusing a mechanic that makes most killers a living joke, apart from Nurse and Huntress.

Except face camping isn’t the only option...you could also search for kills. Thing with survivor chases is, if the killer is competent, or a anti stealth killer; YOU WILL NOT LOSE HIM. You can easily get kills without camping.

And pallet looping isn't the only option aswell. Buddy, the killer IS supposed to get you eventually or else this game wouldn't make sense, that is why there are 4 survivors and multiple chances to be saved.

Either we aren't playing the same game or you never faced rank 1 survivors.

Never said it was the only option.

Killer should not have 100% chance to catch you if they are of equal skill, they should only catch you easily if they are better, otherwise it should be 50/50.

As it stands, survivors can waste too much time, but shouldn’t be able to. But they have to little chances to escape with bloodlust, no LOS breakers and all, and they need more of those.

All in all, survivors needs more chances to escape a chase, but much less ability to waste time.

Also,I main doctor at rank 1, my opinion hasn’t changed, and never will. You seem to think I said pallet looping is a good thing, it isn’t. It’s just currently optimal, and breaking chase is near impossible.

Having a differential on 1 stillallows the other to be used 1/0. However, using a inferior tactic that’s also near impossible due to no in game support in map structure, that only supports looping, it’s a differential of 2, so 1/-1.

I’d still try to break chase even if it was worse than loops, problem is I literally can’t.

Why is it that survivor mains have this belief they should always be equally as strong as the killer when there are 4 of them and 1 killer?