Bubba masks and a general displeasure about the way its handled

I still think it should have been at least 7,200 shards if not a cosmetic. Part of me is like well maybe it was the license and they didn't want their property used this way so BHVR bent to keep Leatherface in the game, but the other part of me is like, exploitable. Wonder what else is going to go next once someone gets their knickers in a twist.

many people still have not yet received their shards.

The four masks were low effort retextures of his default mask.

A standard low effort retexture of a cosmetic in the shop costs 900 Iridescent Shards. You can get six new equivalent cosmetics in exchange for losing four.

Let's not pretend that the survivor masks were anything special.

At this point, what is done is done. Yes, it was handled poorly, but what can we do about it? At least I got a Partial Clown from it.

I disagree with how it was handled as well. But hey, 6000 shards go towards a future chapter so I can avoid giving them money after they keep making terrible decisions, so that's a win.

I think it's a little bit disingenuous, intentionally or otherwise, to act as though this is setting a precedent where bad actors can get things removed from the game to punish legitimate players.

That framing ignores the fact that a lot of people had very legitimate reasons to be uncomfortable with Smartface, and debate about it had been ongoing for a long while before the most recent batch of bad actors partaking in targeted harassment and abuse towards players and streamers. Those two things combined make a very compelling case for removing the masks.

My own personal take is kinda twofold. On the one hand, I do think that a better solution would have been to replace all four masks with some other unlockable cosmetic that sidesteps the problematic aspects of old Smartface. On the other... there's no earthly way that solution would've been fast enough, so I do respect the pressure to just do the quick and less pleasant thing to deal with the problem ASAP. Who knows, maybe they'll introduce some other unlockable cosmetic later on down the line...

After the removal of the masks, I never play Bubba any other way than facecamping the first hook and then collecting the salt in the end-game chat. Works like a charm, 3k-4k most of the times, although even when I get just 1k, the salt is real. This game doesn't deserve any better after all what happened.

A kitchen knife can be used as a weapon of murder. We must make all knives illegal. As well as hammers, shovels, and a ton of other tools. Genius!

Haven’t seen this before.

you can’t be that petty, can you?

you are changing your way of playing to… well to accomplish literally nothing but making the odd game of some noobs a boring experience. Even if they flame you in the end, they move on and will forget you or just put you in the same memory with the other facecampers. Just another sore person. no one would even know you are doing it because of the removal of the masks…

The masks were barely noticeable in-game anyways and can’t be compared to Bubbas other cosmetics. Also you never paid anything for the masks, so asking for currency that’s literally worth money is unreasonable.

they didn’t have to give anything at all. BHVR and the license holder agreed to remove the masks. Them giving out shards is just them being nice. (Disregarding the fact that the distribution didn’t work - which wasn’t intentional at least).

They were removed because the SmartFace cosmetic was indeed Blackface (Bubbas face under the mask was dark) and it was used to harass streamers that were PoC. the Same for the Jake mask.

Dwights and Megs masks were barely noticeable, they were removed because of consistency and not just removing cosmetics with other than white skin colors.

all of this doesn’t change the fact that they were just color changes of the original mask and were in fact barely noticeable with the exception of Smartface.

You are the one upset about the removal of some pixels. Where was I ever upset about anything?

If they are showcasing this on Steam that it’s up to Steam to deal with it and not BHVR. BHVR cant legally do anything against people being racist on Steam/Twitch/other platforms.

Bubba on itself isn’t portraying anything racist though. In this case you could literally remove any and all killers with that argumentation.

Smartface was a problem because while the harassment was going on the people had to endure the sight of Blackface.

I understand that. However, does BHVR not ask for additional info when reporting someone? Could you not screenshot their profile (since you need to include their SteamID, it could be verified) and send in a clip of them in-game?

You could not make that argument with any Killer. There is no prior history of interdimensional monsters terrorizing POC. Is there not a history of under-educated, Southern white men terrorizing POC? Please, understand that I am not actually making that argument, merely showing that the logic you presented can be used to make illogical conclusions. This does not mean that your conclusion is incorrect, I am merely stating that the logic used to get there appears faulty to me.

As for your last sentence, you had previously explained to me that Smartface was not inherently racist but rather, that it was racist in it's implementation due to a bug. Ergo, if that bug was fixed, it would no longer be racist according to your own logic, correct?

Well. They can’t use proof from outside the game to justify bans. And if the gameplay would be otherwise in line with the rules it would accomplish nothing. It would be different if the same person was always harassing the same streamer/group of streamers that way, that would fall under griefing and is reportable and bannable.

and I still don’t see how your theoretical argument against Bubba works the same way that Smartface worked.

in my opinion, if they fixed the bug then the cosmetic wouldn’t be racist. But keep in mind, that’s just my uneducated opinion on it.

(also, its still possible BHVR and the license holder agreed to new cosmetics to replace these masks but those need to be conceptualized, designed, implemented and approved by the license holder so we wouldn’t see them for quite some time anyways; just fixing the bug would probably not be enough for affected people or the people that were using the mask in that way)

Oh

no i just want my boobba compensation

do not argue😓

It's sad to see content being removed from the game in general - they were a piece of the games history that unfortunately we'll have to do without due to the actions of what I hope is a small minority of the dbd playerbase.

The mask had to go. Shame we also lost the other masks in the process but it happens, there was no pleasing everyone so I think BHVR took the path of least resistance in this case, which is fair enough.

Maybe in the future we'll see a return of this mechanic in a much more tasteful way as many people suggested during the middle of the controversy itself.

The removal of the Bubba masks will not prevent people from being racist jerks towards others; All they have to do is be racist towards anyone playing Claudette, so the mask removal will do almost nothing on that front.

To wit, I still say that 6k Shards is a PITTANCE of a compensation for something that was being used as a incentive to buy Leatherface in the first place. That's not even enough shards for a single purple tier item...but we're losing 4 unique cosmetics for Bubba. I miss being able to mix and match his costumes.

Also? I STILL have not gotten my shards, and this is the 4th time they've 'fixed' it. I'm pretty damn angry about it.