To lobbydodgers

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Mister_xD said:
sorry, but im not interested in a round with 2 or more toolboxes (i dont run ruin), 2 or more medkits (ive gotten instahealed so many times now, i actually dodge these. its annoying. you down someone and he's instantly back at full health .-.) or 2 or more flashlights (maybe ill play the round, maybe not).

also, i might just not be in the mood to play against certain people. i know some names by now and sometimes (especially if its my first round of the day) i do not want to play against these, as they would completely demolish me.

or sthg irl happened and i had to close the lobby.

and here are a ton of reasons, besides the common "SWF group" reason. i usually dont dodge these btw.

You dodge lobbies cuz of items, seriously? Are you a freddy main or something?

not really a freddy main, even though i do play him from time to time, but more of a trapper main.

considering your first question, i have already answered that so many times now, that i would actually like to ask you to read some of my responses to other users, so i dont have to write it all again.
i just answered @Arroz the same question.
read that one.

Master said:

BHVR should be able to punish DCing properly when they get dedicated servers.
However, in order for lobbydodging penalties, there are a lot of problems that need to be fixed first

The only problem is ping which can be determined before you join a lobby with dedicated servers, everything else is simply down to a players viewpoint.

Like you said you dodge for 4 flashlights and that's down to you not enjoying it, it is however part of the game and they enjoy using them, so in theroy you should be fine with items and player skins being hidden in the lobby since you are ruining the other persons fun.

That's the main problem is you think it's not fun for you so its ok, they may not find certain killers or add-ons fun but you do it's a double standard, who is right in that debate? No one is as if it's part of the game it's fair to play and you should not have a choice to cherry pick what others should do as that's just another of the players made up rules.

A matchmaking change is going to come soon where Survivors will que with eachother, then into a Killer’s lobby. So in every Killer lobby, all Survivors are always going to spawn in at once. Killers won’t be able to tell who’s SWF, and will thus fix lobby dodging.

It's true that for some reason, solo survivor is taking a little longer than usual these few weeks - sometimes even five minutes or so on the PS4, US region. I don't get lobby-dodged often, and even if I do, I don't mind it because I'm selective about SWF lobbies too. I would rather play a game as the game was originally intended and balanced around. The game is supposed to be "an asymmetrical multiplayer game where you can live in the world of these 70s and 80s horror movies. It’s anti-social multiplayer where survivors have to collaborate and cooperate up to a certain point. The old saying is that you don’t need to be fast than the killer, you just need to be faster than your friends." (McCote) and "a game where we tried to have this horror atmosphere, this sense of isolation, there's no spoken dialogue in the game, it's very lonely and quiet, except for the pounding of drums when you are about to die. And that's all intentional. It really builds up the feeling of the game." (McLean)

The only reason why they had the intention of adding SWF from the beginning was because "2018 now. We are not going to tell people you can't talk to your friends while you play a videogame." (McLean). It never had anything to do with the core idea behind the game, nor was it integral to its mechanics. It was actually the opposite (breaking the balance of the game), but they added it in because "all multiplayer games do it." It is like if the makers of Scrabble or Words With Friends legitimized anagram decoders because they can't tell people not to google or download a third party anagram decoding app. Sure, there is no way to stop it, but it also breaks the whole idea behind Scrabble, where you are expected to use the information that is already in your head, not some outside source.

So don't tell people not to play the game when all many people are doing is wanting to play a game that is similar to what McCote and McLean had stated above. If anything, people who are ruining the feeling and intention of the core gameplay, maybe they are the ones that should stop playing.

If you are tired of waiting as a survivor, go play killer. And when some event starts and everybody is playing killer, then go play survivor. That's what I do. (Granted, apparently I seem to be waiting for a much shorter duration than many of you as both survivor and killer, but the suggestion still applies.) The time spent on these forums can be spent on playing as the side that is more currently needed.

@Master said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

@Mister_xD said:
sorry, but im not interested in a round with 2 or more toolboxes (i dont run ruin), 2 or more medkits (ive gotten instahealed so many times now, i actually dodge these. its annoying. you down someone and he's instantly back at full health .-.) or 2 or more flashlights (maybe ill play the round, maybe not).

also, i might just not be in the mood to play against certain people. i know some names by now and sometimes (especially if its my first round of the day) i do not want to play against these, as they would completely demolish me.

or sthg irl happened and i had to close the lobby.

and here are a ton of reasons, besides the common "SWF group" reason. i usually dont dodge these btw.

You dodge lobbies cuz of items, seriously? Are you a freddy main or something?

If I see 4 flashlights e.g., there is no way that I will enter the game.

I just bring Franklins and run Lightborn problem solved and 4k them usually unless I decide to give the hatch at end. It's not that big of a deal and you can look away in any direction, bait it out, and basically make them waste time with them.

If all you ever do i dodge then you'll never get better to where it's not that big of a deal, it's like refusing to grow past the age of 6 because you're scared of what age 7 is like. If you stopped refusing to grow up you'd realize that next age isn't a big deal.

Vietfox said:

@OrionsFury4789 said:

You already know how I feel about this my friend that's why I've not been on , who wants to wait 4 hours and only get one game? I wish the people defending it would realize not all players are as dedicated as us on here and it's literally killing the game for any new players wanting to try it even with dedicated servers if they don't fix the Dodge this game is on a downward spiral , we didn't realize this was a 2 in 1 game with lobby simulator 5000 being the requirement just to enjoy the real game 

Yeah i know, lobbydodgers are the main reason why i'm taking a damn break from this game from time to time. I'll say it again, go play something else lobbydodgers and let the other killers give to survivors a damn match. Idk, go play sims or minecraft.

Resident evil 2 is out this week I recommend it

As a killer the only time I will dodge lobbies are when survivors lock in with a red ping that doesn't change or if I've had multiple people enter my lobby and leave.

The first is because I dealt with a red ping person before and they were blinking better then anything the Nurse could do.

The second is because I constantly get the damned glitch where if a fair amount of people enter and leave my lobby it glitches out the game load in and crashes my game. This in turn consumes my add-ons and my offering.

I also made a post about this. Everyone just cried that survivors are "cheaters" lol. Feels bad man.

@Vietfox said:
@LegitAdventurer said:

I also made a post about this. Everyone just cried that survivors are "cheaters" lol. Feels bad man.

Lol i guess they were just trying to dodge the lobbydodge topic. Always dodging everything ^^

Well like i called out in the other thread, it's always excuses, you destroy each one and they move onto the next one until they finally run and hide oer go back to the 1st one.

I still only rarely get dodged, even when I play in SWF.

Maybe it's a personal problem you have? Like no one wants to play with you (anymore) because of previous matches / experiences?

Regional DbD community for high rank is not that big. I keep facing the same guys over and over again and apparently people know/remember me aswell. Toxic behaviour can easily lead to players trying to avoid you.

There's also a high chance that you get back in the same Killers lobby again after they dodged so it's very possible that you got dodged several times by the same Killer.

E: I only dodge for bad ping or because of players I mentioned above. I also try to avoid biased streamers that like to talk ######### about the opposite side.

@OrionsFury4789 said:
It's the items and cosmetics @PiiFree I literally have to make myself look like a noob to get a game sometimes, it's not all the time as I've said before in the morning I have better luck finding a game but in the evening time it's lobby simulator and getting dodged left and right, that's when I've been playing killer now because there's no point in waiting 2 hours to get one match . It wasn't like this until the last update I mean times were always somewhat messed up but never had the problem of being dodged until the matchmaking system breaks itself and you just sit there getting nothing 

Do you play in low rank? It's probably the side-effect of all the derankers that killers started to pay more attention.

As I said, I rarely get dodged but I play in Rank 1 and I always try to get back there asap after reset. I suppose Rank 1 has more competent and confident Killers than Rank 10, obviously those lesser experienced Killers are afraid to face tryhards.

@OrionsFury4789 said:
I am always rank one lol I get there like four days after the reset it has nothing to do with that @Vietfox can vouch for my rank

In that case it must be something personal, congrats.

Yesterday it was hot and I hadn't showered and I got a lot of lobby dodges... it didn'thappen after I cleaned myself... the smell maybe？

@Master said:
With these criteria I would probably havr to dodge 70% of all lobbies. I understand your reasoning though

@Master Luckily it doesn't happen often where I play. Also interestingly I often see toxic survivors in purple and green ranks rather than in red ranks. 3 and 4 doesn't happen often too. It mostly comes down to ping issues. That one Russian guy (I'm SE-Asian) that refuses to leave your lobby with 300 ping lol.

It is annoying. I roll solo mostly and it's silly how when me and 2 others or I come in together with 3 others they freak out and leave and think I'm in some toxic SWF or something.

I play 75% of my survivor matches by myself. Get a life people.

As a killer I rarely dodge. Maybe 5% of the time or something. I usually use the over the top altruism to my advantage. It's great.

I never have this issue as survivor, maybe 2-3 dodges max. But as killer I tend to get lobby after lobby of 1-2 players with red ping and have to dodge the whole lobby since I can't just kick individual players. Played through it instead and had a claudette who lagged so hard my interactions wouldnt even work with her (couldnt pick her up after i downed her and when i finally did, it wouldnt give me the hook prompt.) Then again pretty much everytime I play killer its a miserable experience.