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Hatch Gives Undeserved Escapes. What Game Mechanic Gives Undeserved Kills?

It is quite simple . . . ๐Ÿง


Killers, seemingly disagree with hatch. Being a baked in-game mechanic which allows a survivor to escape when the killer would have gotten the 4k (ex) at 5 gens otherwise. Minus some very niche circumstances ๐Ÿ˜‘

What 'in-game mechanic' gives a killer the ability to get that 1k when the survivors have dominated the killer. Over committing to chases, only 1 hook, trash killer get good. Exit gates are opened, tea bags are brewing...


๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘‰๏ธ Killer you suck! ๐Ÿ˜


~ahhhhhhhhhhhhh~ 'hatch sound' ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ


Then you, the survivor that did no wrong, ran the killer like crazy. Threw some pallets down while taking your bags out of the killers tea. Made some mad lad plays. You DESERVE to win/escape.


Now you are dead because the killer walked around and got lucky ๐Ÿคฌ ๐Ÿคฌ ๐Ÿคฌ How happy would you be?


I mean the killer doesn't even have items or perks to find the hatch outside of the offerings that affectively aid both killer and survivor.


killer version of hatch when? ? ? ?

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  • Member Posts: 8,336

    How is the hatch spawning for the 4th survivor if you know exactly where they are while slugging the 3rd survivor? Are they looping you for 4 minutes? If that's the case then don't they fall under your description of "Then you, the survivor that did no wrong, ran the killer like crazy. Threw some pallets down while taking your bags out of the killers tea. Made some mad lad plays. You DESERVE to win/escape."?

  • Member Posts: 77

    So what you are saying if a killer played well the whole game and if the survivor played stealth the whole game, it's the killers mistake? It's not that hard to hide while the 3rd survivor is bleeding out nor isit hard to stealth the 4 minutes in EGC. Without EGC, the killers are at the mercy of that last survivor/s just because killers did well.

    I have played a game before where 2 SWFs hold the game hostage just because they '3 gen themselves'. The other 2 survivor died because I can't find anyone else despite running BBQ (they played stealth the whole game & hides in locker before BBQ activates). I am very sure they hid in locker from BBQ just because the 4 generators popped are on the other side of the map while I was chasing the other survivor and when I was there, these 2 are nowhere to be seen. No foot tracks no nothing, just generator's progress. When they know they can't do the generators without on dying, they decide to hide in lockers.

    As I search for 10 mins (was watching tv show) in every single locker in the Rotten Field, I can't find them and the 3 gen progress were 0%. The first place I searched for are basement and level 2 because typical survivors feel safe in those place. Only after 20 mins, did I manage to find them BOTH hiding in level 2 lockers. It's only safe to assume they were changing hiding spots in the building itself. So was it my mistake that I can't find them?

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  • Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2022

    Hatch is the unique thing that DBD provides. To me I feel I rather not have it changed be it giving killer new mechanic or to remove the hatch mechanic, it's the unique thing about DBD. I rather not have killer have any new end game mechanic or it will make the game more unbalanced than the game already is. It will just provide more reasons for people to complain about the game.

    Not being biased in any way but I do feel the game is more survivor sided.

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    So then you, the killer, have control over the hatch appearing and denying that 4th survivor the escape because unless you make a mistake that 4th survivor, in your words, will die in the 4 minutes it would take the 3rd survivor to bleed out.

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    EGC

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    edited April 2022

    My problem with hatch is that it can spawn right near the player. It should not happen. Both sides should be looking for it. I mean it is not an unfair scenario, but it happens sometimes that it is just stupid.

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    I would say that killers do have this in Bloodlust and facecamping. A killer with zero brain and no strategy can get one kill by just holding W and ignoring every structure until they're mach 3, then just camp for a kill. It's hyper inefficient, but it is a kill.

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    Clicking the ready button.

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    The killer version of the hatch is face camping

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    If you're chasing the 4th survivor when the 3rd bleeds out you have equal chance of closing the hatch and starting EGC. Biggest mistake I've seen killers make when it comes to hatch in a chase is choosing to hit the survivor instead of going for closing the hatch.

    There are plenty of killers that wait for someone to bleedout to secure 4k, I've been left on ground with crows when they down other survivor across the map because they don't want to risk hatch escape. They wait until either I bleedout to pick up the other survivor or for me to have just enough time to bleedout as the sacrifice animation is playing so I will be dead by the time hatch opens. ๐Ÿ˜‚

    So weird that killers are constantly wasting 4 minutes slugging for 4k to prevent hatch escapes and missing out on sacrifice BP by letting survivors bleedout if it's as unsuccessful as you are claiming in your arguments. ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • Member Posts: 2,630

    Matchmaking. At least once a day I'm guaranteed to get a random on my team who wants to suicide at the beginning of the match on their first hook. Then, if they do get saved before they can suicide, they'll just run straight to the killer and offer themselves.

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    You could simply hook the 3rd to die and save 3 people's time, its still RNG for the 4th one to escape. From hatch spawn to Gates spawn, the 4th survivor have to pass two lucky RNG in order to escape.


    Killer deserve 4k because they did well? Whats about a survivor loops for 5 Gens then dies to Noed & Camping, they didnt do well?


    You threw in all the most Rare possible RHG happens that favor Survivor.

    1) You hook 3rd to death, and hatch doesnt spawn next to the other.

    2) You down both, hook either one of them, and hatch doesnt spawn next to the other.

    I can do that too. Except my case happens like 99%, unlike yours.

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  • Member Posts: 2,270

    Why does it matter? Escaping through the hatch doesn't affect MMR for the killer or survivor, it's purely for bloodpoints and that's it. According to the game it's not a win or loss if somebody escapes through the hatch.

    The purpose of the hatch is to also speed along the endgame. If there was no hatch the last survivor could just sit in a corner forever and waste the killer's time for an hour if they wanted. It just gives both parties an objective to do.

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    Did anyone mention yet afk pig

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    First off....Which clown have you been in contact with that says Hatches are undeserved?

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    Hatch isn't a reward. It's a loss that comes with 5000 points. That's it.

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    Ok so you're pointing out that a survivor can get 5000 extra bloodpoints that doesn't affect MMR and costs no perks or items... Alright then, thanks for the info.

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