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General Discussions
#NerfNurse
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Which means by simple math that you ARE a Nurse main (unless you only play ONE other killer beside Nurse). No clue why u keep trying to say your aren't LMFAO
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Because I have several hundred more hours on other killers? Because I make it a point to learn multiple killers on the roster, and right now I'm working on Nurse?
Also I still don't use range addons. You can hyper focus on the Nurse main thing if you want, but you'll still be wrong.
Edit: If I wanted to cherrypick as well, I would say the simple math shows that I'm actually a survivor main. Who'da thunk.
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A lot of words that don’t say much, and you’re completely off base on there being no counterplay. Nurse has to guess against good survivors. As an example I have had many games in which I have circled the map in a chase against Nurse. This same Nurse downs my solo teammates in 10-15 seconds. So is this Nurse a god for downing them? Or are my teammates just not good against Nurse? You can’t nerf a killer because people refuse to try/learn.
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Tryhard?
I'm seeing a lot of meta perks on the survivors there.
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Its still soloq
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Average anniversary event experience
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Solo survivors can still be tryhards. Look at the screenshot in question.
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#buffnurse
she has lowest kill rate across all killers!
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If you're incapable of understanding high level nurse play or the wider impact her presence has on the game that's your problem. You do not run nurses of that level the entire circle of the map unless it's something like Lery's. Never said there was no counterplay either so don't put words in my mouth or twist things. I said the counterplay falls off very quickly against "god" tier nurses and becomes more about generator efficiency than "running". However, If you have footage of you running these types of nurses (established competitive ones would be even better) we'll soon be able to tell.
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There is no such things as "god" tier nurse tho, it just doesn't exist.
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Hence why it's in quotes, it's just a term a lot of the community uses and keeps things a bit simpler. Makes no difference to me personally.
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I’m a Nurse main. I have no way of telling who is a “comp” player or not. My experience is my experience. It’s pretty funny that you’re mad about me talking about my experience.
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I can escape against Nurse as well, still doesn't mean she is fine.
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No one is mad, I simply met your post with the same energy you brought. But if you could stop projecting that would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I can tell you that arguing with him gets nowhere, save your time.
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You basically said i was lying that i did a whole map chase. You’re wrong and won’t accept it lol.
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I said against a "god" nurse. Are you genuinely this stupid or did you have to work for it? Honestly I'm impressed at this point.
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Did you read the rest of the post? My point was that once she chased one of my teammates, she downed them in 10 seconds. From the scrub perspective of the forum, she would be considered a god nurse for those chases. It is thoroughly toxic people like you, who essentially think that Nurse can never guess wrong and that if she does, she is bad. Nurse seems as strong as she is because most survivors never learn how to vs her. Pre mmr especially, I would face a staggering number of people as Nurse who would still throw pallets and try to run in a straight line.
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Dude stop arguing with him there's no point just let this thread die.
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I'm not planning on it, that would require them to have something of value to say. They play at a lower level and that's fine, no shame in it. Anyway, I'll leave this thread to it's overdue death and if they're desperate for last word then fair enough.
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He doesn't have anything relevant or interesting to say it's a biased delusional Nurse main don't waste your time arguing with these kind of people.
yes let's just leave this thread to die.
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Why do all the tournament players I've played with agree that nurse is broken? Have they not learned how to play against nurse yet? Should I tell them to ask you for advice?
Nurse seems as strong as she is because she is that strong. Stop protecting your OP toy, and come play the game like the rest of us.
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He can't bring himself to admit that Nurse is the best killer in the game. Just whataboutif and shills.
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Nobody said Nurse was not strong when mastered. Of course she is strong in the hands of a specialist, but she is not "broken op so ez gg wp 4k at 5gens" like you guys pretend she is.
When we ask you to give video proof of winstreak you can’t. Why ?
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SupaAlf has an active 215 win streak on Nurse right now.
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SupaAlf has more hours on Nurse than most people have on their entire account. Why should he lose to survivors with less hours than him when he's a comp level player who focuses on maximizing his skill?
Woosh.
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Not you defending a 215 win streak when no other killer in the game could get close to an active win streak that long.
If he's won 215 games in a row on Nurse, he should be capping on MMR, facing the most coordinated of SWFs and the most individually talented players on his server. Despite this, he's won 215 games and he's still going.
Not sure how your point even begins to defend this lol
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You're making irrelevant points:
- Other killers are in a terrible state
- He is most likely capped on MMR, please look through previous threads to understand soft-cap and the current MMR matchmaking issues
You provided an example of the most extreme outlier in the entire game most likely, when what we've been asking for is for the players who say Nurse is GG OP EZ to provide evidence through their own play, because our suspicion's, which are currently correct, is that they can't do anything close to resembling what they say Nurse is capable of.
Honestly, I wouldn't even care if you did it with the ranged addons, take a few handicaps if you'd like.
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He is deranking to the mmr floor to be able to do this. He is also a comp players, going against potatoes in public matches.
There is a dude doing to same thing having hundred of wins on demo, should we nerf demo ?
You don’t seem to understand that max MMR is not that hard to reach. It’s like getting platinum in Overwatch or League. The soft cap is low.
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What proof do you have of him deranking?
The demo player admitted what they were doing.
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i want a REWORK rather than a NERF but YESSSS!!!! DO SOMETHING WITH NURSE ALREADY BHVR PLS!!!
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He said it in a stream.
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Ah yes, because not being able to communicate with other survivors, which is the main way of defeating Nurse, especially ones using Corrupt, Pain Res, DMS, Ruin or any combination of those perks. Which you can see is the case. With Ruin, all you need is to slug and find the next survivor relatively quickly, with the recharge and distance addons you can easily down them before that one survivor has had a chance to recover, let alone be picked up, so you blink back, down that survivor again IF they are picked up, or chase off the other survivor first, if they push through to pick up, down and then easily down the 3rd.
Really, its not that hard to create scenario's like this when at least 2 out of 4 survivors are not on comms and/or not SWF. Survivors build more to get BP or challenges done, playing a sweaty Nurse build is literally a free win. I literally wouldnt mind if Nurse, Twins and Blight are locked for the remainder of the event.
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So it would be on a Twitch VOD? Got a date?
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remove the omega blink AND the recharge addons, literally the 2 addon types that make her basekit far more powerful than she already is.
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Other killers in a terrible state doesn't discount that Nurse is the only one strong enough to do a streak this successful. And he's been doing this streak for months. Have the MMR issues you speak of been present since MMR's implementation?
And it's not an outlier. For an outlier on the killer side, there's a comp survivor team outlier as well.
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Nurse being the only one strong enough to do it, on a single player with an absurd amount of hours on her? I agree. That's wrong. I believe a player with 7000 hours on pig should be able to do it with pig. Obviously, that's not the case. Again, the state of most killers is abysmal.
There isn't a consensus on when the issues started, most people found SSBM in the beginning to be accurate. Shortly after, it clearly became inaccurate. It has been going on for months and months though.
There are comp survivor team outliers as well, SupaAlf said if he wanted the streak to end he could at anytime by playing against Legacy (Or maybe they're called Eternals, I don't keep up that much) - because they'd spank his Nurse.
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Are people really claiming Nurse is OP by justifying a streamer who de-ranks himself on a 200+ win spree? XDDD
A certain streamer did like 143 wins in a row with Pig that doesn't mean a thing. lol
You can do AFK wraith for a dozen games to lower your average MMR down to potato level and then go back to your main killer and get a pretty low MMR game but not as low as the wraith though as 80% of your main MMR is spread to another killler.
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You don't understand the issue here.
The majority of the playerbase are casuals most players started playing this game beceause of licenses being able to go against an iconic character like Pyramid Head or playing the dangerous Michael Myers is what makes this game unique.
A "competitive" killer like Nurse should not be in the game she's the only killer who just can do everything with 0 downsides if you're good with her most killers have flaws/weaknesses,what are the weaknesses of a veteran Nurse like Alf in public matches ?
Lerys and RPD that's all if you're good at Nurse you will stomp in every pubs games it's a fact SoloQ and even decent SWFs will lose against a decent nurse who is patient with her blinks and doesn't panic.
Now you were talking about a Comp DBD team you know that each of these guys have like 6-7k hours each and they also play Nurse they're the only team who have a chance of winning against a good Nurse,do you find this normal/acceptable ?
Nurse is broken in public matches,in comp matches where every players has 8k hours+ there might be a chance of winning against her,otherwise the killer is broken and needs to be nerfed.
I played against KnightLight's Nurse in public matches several times and he always stomped my SoloQ team it was just a miserable experience even Blight can't do this,having one sided games like this is just unhealthy for the game.
I hope you understand why Nurse is bad for the DbD playerbase.
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- Majority of players are casual? Sure, that's reasonable
- That does not mean that competitive killers should not exist. Also, she doesn't have 0 downsides. Again, we'd appreciate your winstreak video. I'm not sure what you mean by what Alf's weaknesses as a veteran Nurse are. It's the same weaknesses every Nurse shares
- Please, if you can win every game bar RPD and Lery's, show me your winstreak video. You can use ranged addons, you can discount RPD and Lerys. I'm begging you
- Alf is a comp player, of course I was talking about a comp team as a response. Nurses lose to regular SWF's and even Solo Queue all the time. Alf's may not, but last I checked he's not the only Nurse
- She's not broken in public matches. She's strong in public matches. A case can be made against her Range addons and against certain perk loadouts, but broken is way too generous, and way to freely thrown around without evidence
- That's a soloqueue problem
You do understand that, right? People playing solo queue are immediately conceding that they are not willing to optimize their play. There's a reason solo has a 15% less escape rate than SWF. If you're not willing to optimize your play and resources, you are going to lose to killers that do. Not just Nurse - as demonstrated by the multitudes of killer winstreak videos across most of the roster, even the weaker ones.
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Would you admit that Nurse is the strongest killer in the game? Has been the strongest killer in the game?
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Sure, outside of perfect balance. Someone has to be.
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I'm glad there's a common understanding in that regard.
It just doesn't sit right with me that she'll forever be the best until something changes.
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Once again you're being delusional and just won't accept facts you have to defend your busted Toy at all costs...
I am begging you to understand why Nurse in her current state is not good for Dbd and its players experience.
Bad nurses will lose to SoloQ teams a half decent Nurse will always win against a SoloQ team beceause they have no comms and if you want to win against a good Nurse you need comms,communication is so important against this killer,this is what makes Nurse broken vs SoloQ public matches.
I know how to play Nurse and I also know how to play against her I have enough experience and I know what I am talking about but unlike you I am not biased and I understand why Nurse is unhealthy for the game and its playerbase why do you think SoloQ enjoyers on the forums complain about Nurse ? Beceause she's too STRONG against uncoordinated teams with no comms and most players play in solo or duos...
Why comp players such as KnightLight with more hours and experience than most people on the forums will admit that Nurse is overkill/straight up broken in public matches but you Nurse mains just won't accept the truth ?
Can't you be open minded and understand this simple fact ?
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The only thing protecting nurse are her numbers. If the killer community at large started a movement to play only nurse I don't think she'd last a chapter without changes.
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You're throwing around a lot of words you don't understand. If you're willing to stop moving your goal posts, put up a winstreak video, or avoid the hyperbole mayo you're slathering on your opinion sandwich, @ me. Until then, please see my last response to you where I actually responded to your points. I'm not humoring your last response it has zero value.
Um, that's an entirely different argument. I think most Nurse players would LOVE other killers to get their chance in the spotlight. I would play Deathslinger all day in a heartbeat if he wasn't a total piece of street-filth in his current state. But anytime someone goes "NURSE OP ANYONE CAN SLAY WITH HER NERF/REWORK/REMOVE FROM GAME." <- while simultaneously refusing to put up evidence, you're going to find resistance.
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So how's that an entirely different argument? She's been the best for years... She's the best right now... She'll continue to be the best until something changes.
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Because the solution is to make the other killers more nuanced, so that they can have a higher skill cap and perform better again survivors. Right now, they don't.
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I shouldn’t be punished for my experience and other players’ lack of experience.
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Anyone else's central complaint about Nurse is the (feeling) of a lack of agency?
I'm in no way saying there's nothing you can do vs a Nurse (there is, kinda) but a lot of the time it certainly feels that way. Sometimes when I outplay a nurse I don't feel like I had anything to do with it and the mistake was all on them.
Hopefully that makes sense.
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