How would you fix trapper?

Allow him to carry all traps basekit.

When he uses them all, his power goes on cooldown and he recharges them over time.

He recycles the ones he has used from the earliest he placed to the last he placed.

He can still pick them up and re-arm them. Survivors can still disarm them.

Essentially the same, basically.

Playing against trapper can feel super oppressive, if you respect the possibility that there is a trap on the other side of every window and pallet.

In my experience, he is weakest against survivors who just say "F!&# it!" and vault every window while in chase, regardless of whether they know if a trap is there of not. Every window they vault that doesn't have an active trap on the other side of it is a huge time-sink for trapper, and is where he ends up losing a lot of his pressure.

Survivors who respect the possibility of a trap being on the other side of windows are less likely to have 5 second chases, but they do run tiles less optimally as a result.

I would like to see trappers traps take more time to disarm.

Since it is such a fundamental part of his kit, disarming his traps should almost feel like a secondary objective to survivors not in chase.

At best, I'd like to see an Add-On that reveals the aura of traps when within 4m, but traps take 5x longer to disarm and have skill checks.

Increase the amount of tiny grass in the maps for starters.

In case you somehow don't know, there is normal grass, and then there is tiny grass. If you look closely at the ground like autohaven or macmillan you can see small grass. It can actually be really hard to see traps placed in those patches. This grass should be increased.

As for what else he can do I have no idea. He definitely needs his traps to last 10-12 seconds though instead of having RNG. I think his traps should last to 12 seconds before a survivor escapes to make his traps more threatening.

I am also pretty sure otz made a video on this. He includes tons of good changes that can be made to trapper's traps that make him much more threatening.

His traps have already had a rework to reduce the amount of RNG involved. They're basically much more likely to require multiple attempts, but cap out at 6 attempts max.

You understand that trapper is just worsen version of a Hag right now. It's weirdly common for dbd to have such things.

Billy<Oni

Trapper<Hag

Onryo<Dredge...

That what should be adressed.

I'd add a door of shadows mechanic allowing killers who lack mobility to take the door after hooking a survivor (could just use lockers), allowing them to traverse larger maps to defend objectives they otherwise wouldn't reach on time.

I mean, Freddy and Sadako: both have teleportation spots at gens, which can be shut down, both phase in and out of visibility, both have a very weak anti-loop that's hardly worth bothering with,

Dredge: unlimited teleporting virtually anywhere on the map (except the Swamp), has an anti-loop that can completely shut down loops.

It's like: Freddy<<Sadako<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Dredge

Yup, and what I mean for OP is that... First of all, they should get rid of such thing like "better versions of a killer"...

Well Trapper and Billy are VERY old, all very old killers should have some new mechanics aside from their powers, like Dredge does, or Sadako with her condemn.

I see they making new killers with active and passive abilitys, why don't they apply some to the old ones? They have only actives...

"Starts with all his traps in hand, cannot step on his own traps. These two changes make him more viable for both new AND more experienced players."

So basically, trapper is gonna be a second hag, the difference is only in teleportation button.

I think trapper at least needs to have an addon to completely hide his traps at first.

The problem with trapper is when survivors see your traps, they become useless.

I think Trapper is fine as is. Sure, there is RNG around his trap spawns. But a player can be savvy and get value out of them. Not every killer needs to be Nurse or Blight.

In short:

• start out with all Traps in hand
• bring back the old grass model / greatly thicken the new grass

He will never be a meta Killer, but he would feel significantly better to play.

There is nothing to "fix" on him, since the DH nerf hes in a pretty good spot. Ofc you cannot compare him directly with Blight or Nurse since his nature of the power doesnt allow him to be more oppressive but not every Killer or character has to be on the same level.

The first step in addressing Trapper is to accept that he's never going to be an S-tier killer because of the core design of his kit and theming. Even Hag, the stronger trap killer by far, kinda can't raise above A tier because of setup time and the ability for survivors to 'disarm' her traps too.

After that, there are some things that can be done to help Trapper reach his maximum potential! In my opinion, the biggest offenders are his atrocious early setup time, and the dwindling amount of good trap spots in the newer/updated maps. So with that in mind, I have two major things I'd like to see.

1: Adjust the base colour of his traps a little to help normalise their base level of stealth on all maps, and rework the Tar Bottle into something that colours traps based on the map you load into. Either active camouflage, or just making them slightly transparent, whichever one works easier. Basically, a little of whichever tactic for basekit, then have the addon intensify it.

2: Have his traps spawn in a tighter radius towards the centre of the map. It's nice to have traps available to pick up as you chase survivors deeper into the map, but realistically the far edges of the map are somewhere you never wanna go for a huge number of maps in this game, so having his traps spawn a little closer to the centre + the same side as him would help cut down on how much time he has to invest before he has all of his power available. I've seen people suggest that he should just start with all his traps on hand, but I'm not convinced- there's a reason that's an addon with a steep downside, he can do some nasty things with eight traps on hand. Better to let him set them up a little quicker with his current limitations.

Those are the big ones. I'd also love to see traps taken off the Red Twine list for Maps, a slightly faster base setting speed, and a few other tweaks, but those are less important.

1) Increase his trap slot to 3 and also start him with 3 traps.

2) all traps spawn primed and loaded. They also spawn in somewhat clever positions, ie in front of vaults, in tall grass or around corners. This one would need to be handpicked by the devs, but I think its not too hard.

3) don't make disarming a trap risk free. Give it a difficult skill check in order to avoid getting damaged. An add-on could be introduced that traps survivors that fail the skill check.

4) make the traps at least somewhat match the prevalent color of the environment without burning an add-on. Trapper on the Eyrie could just as much play without a power.

Alternative: give trapper a secondary ability to spend 3s to hide his placed trap, like a real trapper would do. Throw some sand and shrubbery on the traps in order to hide them.

5) every map needs spots of tall gras or rubble, especially on long walls. The Eyrie desperately needs some scrubs or non-tumbling tumbleweed or blobs of inky darkness.

Here's an excerpt from a post I made about this topic, lightly edited.

Add-on idea 1: After setting a trap, the trap will be blocked by the entity for a certain time. It cannot be disarmed while the entity protects it. 

I've watched a Trapper set a trap at the shack and then immediately disarmed it once he left. I wouldn't be able to do that with this add-on. 

Add-on idea 2: When a survivor goes to disarm the trap, their hand gets stuck/trapped and they have to struggle to get out. But once they free themselves, the trap is disarmed and they're afflicted with a modified version of the deep wound state. 

This would make chases more interesting because if the Trapper comes back to chase the survivor, that survivor has to start chase while needing to mend. But how and why it would be a modified version of the deep wound state is because once they mend, they're back to whatever health state they were before they disarmed the trap. This would be because the Trapper didn't "catch" them in the trap. So if you were healthy, you're back to healthy. If you were injured, you're still injured.

It should have never been reduced though, it should have had it removed entirely.