Why people refuse to learn how to play against nurse?

What exactly have I said that you think is aggressive? Maybe next time you should bother to read the context of the response that was given, rather than entering territory in a conversation you were not a part of, and giving your 2 cents because you don't like the way someone carries themselves rather than what is actually being discussed.

I am willing to bet you don't do that for your side's responses, because of the bias that you seem to have. Even though I was just told I "must not play killer" simply because I as both a killer and survivor player, I have a difference of opinion.

I would suggest that you follow your own advice and learn to take someone else's opinion as just that....... opinion. Not personal.

You literally started this post with an aggressive response. If you're not capible of self reflecting even that little, you shouldnt be surprised if other people disagree with you. Like you even go on implying I'm talking about stuff that doesnt relate to me, when you already did the same thing to one of my posts earlier in the same topic. If you can't stop being so emotional than you'll never get through to anyone unless they already agree with you in the first place.

Like, how do you not see what comments like "I am willing to bet you don't do that for your side's responses" actually say. I don't complain that the game's balance should cater specifically to me, so I don't have a "side." If anything, I end up defending killers more than survivors simply because of mindsets like yours that do put their own gripes before game balance.

Also what the hell is that "no u" at the end? You keep trying to state your opinions as facts, then try to fall back on "but theyre just opinions man." I respect other people's opinions, even when i disagree with them entirely. as opposed to stuff like "I can tell you don't play much of anything, but Nurse." By contrast, my first post was literally about how Nurse's differences are part of a larger issue in the game (agency denial) that affects BOTH sides.

or just a patient group with the ability to heal away from the gens. Countering 3 gen strats is boring, but as soon as healing or coordination come into play anything less than instadowns will lose most of the time. Base gen regression is painfully slow, and if the killer doesn't have gen kick perks even self caring via the perk or CoH can keep up if multiple survivors can juggle properly (which does NOT require comms, just bodies that are alive, vertical, and know what they're doing.)

She did have gen regress perks and we did heal pretty coordinatedly but if we left the gens even for few secs they were already regressed from 80% to 20%. The 3 gen situation requires perfect play from survivors but killer can make multiple mistakes. We would probably won agains't most killers this scenario. But nurse, blight and wraith excel in this situation and any killer with mobility.

Why would killer mobility matter if they need to leave the gens? Any time away from gens is time not protecting them, and wraith needs to be able to uncloak and get his hit before the survivor reaches a pallet or window, which is extremely depentant on the match up to that point. He can even be flashlight stunned and waste even more time, doesnt even need to be looking at you. Considering how absolutely awful he actually is in 3 gen scenarios, I was honestly kinda baffled he was thrown in there.

Edit: I mean i can see mobility on nurse being able to traverse floors and structures and blight being able to cover extreme distances while also having his attack ready simultaneously, but killers like billy/demo/spirit would fit better than Wraith.

Also congratulations on living through a worst case scenario. it happens with this game unfortunately.

ignore him man his post history is all you need to look at to know he's not worth talking to.

survivors should not be sacrificed because you are unable to catch them. you can already get free kills during egc with the right builds so giving free kills as basekit is completely unacceptable.

Nothing about that had to do with Wraith, it had to do with perks that improve gen regression. You're not really arguing with anyone, just bemoaning your point and trying to pull other factors in. My point was that he is a killer who survivors literally have the ability to stun when he is trying to traverse the map without even needing pallets, which hurts him exponentially in a 3 gen scenario. Whether you were ready or equipped to take advantage of that isn't relevant to whether its something that can and does hurt him in that scenario.

you posts on a lot of topics so no it's not stalking when i usually see a post by you don't flatter yourself with that your not that special.

Cool, agree to disagree. If you want to keep trying to avoid advice you get, don't expect to have your outlook in situations improve though.

honestly hope people complain about nurse more

I had a little extra time today to respond. 😉 Don't worry this is not my first time around the block.

You appear to be either failing to understand mathematical calculations, or basic human parlance. Now to be fair the other poster appears to not be a native English speaker/writer, or alternatively typing quickly without proofreading. I cannot help you understand how other people use language, but I can try to help you understand math. I tried to lay it out as simply as possible, but I suppose I have to be even more verbose for clarity.

Your claim was the Survivor was 41.6m away from the Nurse after she landed a 2 blink attack, recovered all charges, and finished one blink again. You failed to account for the Nurse's movement toward the Survivor which resulted in less than 3m of distance once the Blink, which you included in your calculation of time, was completed.

1. Under the assumption a Nurse landed a 2 blink hit, they have a fatigue of 3.5s. This is calculated from 2s base fatigue, .5s extra blink fatigue, and 1s attack bonus fatigue. The 3.5s is spent with Nurse moving at fatigue speed, which is .96m/s (Where m/s is short hand for meters per second)
2. The time to recover one charge of blink takes 3 seconds, since the Nurse already waited 3.5s in fatigue they have 2.5s of non fatigue to recover their 2nd blink. This is done at normal walking speed. Nurse's normal walk speed is 3.85m/s.
3. The first Blink has a charge time of 2s to reach maximum distance, which makes the Nurse move at a reduced 2.89m/s.
4. Finally the Nurse's time spent in the first Blink is accounted for in which she moves at 13.33m/s over the course of 1.5s.
5. When you add up the distance covered in the Survivor's 9.5s and subtract the Nurse's distance in 9.5s, you get the net distance gained by the Survivor after the 1st blink of two following a successful 2 Blink attack. Note this is without any add-ons for recharge, bugged distance speed, or lessened fatigue timers.
6. This net distance is 2.835m after the 1st blink is completed. This distance isn't close enough to lunge, but the Nurse has a 2nd blink and at that distance the onus is upon the Nurse to not screw up.

Your claim of the Survivor being ~42m away from the Nurse after 9.5s is actually ~3m. Also in your other example the Nurse is 2.46m away with their 2nd blink to spare. This also doesn't account for lunge or 1 blink hits against cornered survivors, which skew even further in the Nurse's favor. Yes, it takes 9.5s after a 2 blink hit to be in a situation where the killer must misplay in order to miss the hit, and it takes a short while to charge the follow up blink and land the attack. That being said it is far shorter than the basekit ~18s of time gained for most other killers, which can also be extended by expending limited use resources on the map. The Nurse has no such map macro resource play to be used in the survivor's favor.

Now all my math is based on using the wiki's information on the Nurse, however the ~18s is used from the old hold W claim resulting in 20s of time before being caught after a hit. This is roughly adjusted to be 10% less time, as the Killer attack cooldown and Survivor speed boost were each reduced by 10%.

One last thought to help make the Nurse more comparable to other killers is to have blinks take longer when passing through pallets and the walls attached to them, and also a short time after vaulting a window. This would help make the time that map resources have to offer still affect Nurse in a similar fashion, making her actually use the existing mechanics of the game without rebuilding her from the ground up. Blinks could take 1s longer to pass through a pallet or wall connected to a dropped pallet. As for windows, it could use the same system for 3-5s after a vault, but only delay the wall/window blink by .25s to .5s. This could allow for a Survivor to gain time by dropping a pallet at say a 4 lane wall. The Nurse would then need to break the pallet or take 1 additional second to arrive at a blink if it passes the pallet, the long wall, or the short wall during the blink. The numbers here are strictly guesstimates, and could use testing.

I complained about Spirit .... When they took away the GLORIOUS BUTT ZOOM! All Hail the glorious butt!