If you DC against Nurse, YOU are the problem

I never DC, and in the past 30-40 or so survivor games I've had, I've gone against two Nurses.

One was a 4K, but it was a decent game, held out long enough to get all gens done at least, although 2 were already dead by that point so it was a 50/50 if there'd be one escape or none.

The other was a 2K.

Don't DC kids.

This is exactly the problem with many players: they don't understand that against a killer, the goal is not to win in 1V1, but to make him lose enough time so that, during this time, the rest of the team can work on the generators.

Against a good nurse, it will be more complicated, but it is possible.

The fact that you talk about auras is very interesting.

A nurse who plays with, for example, 4 auras perk will have to deal with generators that will be repaired extremely quickly, unless she generates a powerful snowball.

Because she will not have, in return, any perk of control of the generators which can hurt her very very much.

Aura reading is not a problem, as each perk that gives her information will deprive her of control over the generators or the health of the survivors.

Especially since the aura perks are not very violent, for the most part.

BBQ&Chili : it will give her information, but only if she is far from her target : by the time she gets close, the survivor will have had time to reach a safe loop.

Flood of rage: more dangerous, because the distance is less; survivors should be aware of the nurse's post-dehook movements. Pairing it with Make your choice is the worst combo a survivor can encounter.

I'm all ears up: very easily detectable; will force survivors to be very careful after a fast vault, but nothing impossible. Moreover, it may make them SIMULATE a fast vault, which can also hurt the nurse.

Lethal pursuer : either the nurse tp immediately at the beginning of the game, and thus, gives the survivors the information about the nature of the killer; or she cunningly goes towards them without tp, but thus, the survivors will have time to see her coming.

Nurse's calling: easily avoidable; a survivor just has to hide far from the terror ray to be safe.

Sorry, but I have to show that even if I am a main nurse, I am still a human being with feelings, and able to discuss quietly with others 🤣

But no, see, not at all 😁

I was saying this in an ironic way, because according to some people, nurses are nothing more than nature's mistakes that should be wiped off the face of the earth 🤣

I swear, they should go to other games, that would relax them a bit 🤣

BHVR confirmed that their kill rate statistics don't count DCs, so people who DC against Nurse skew the results away from reality.

" don't understand how a loop is effective against her. I thought her whole deal was that she wasn't loopable?"

In fact, looping a nurse will consist in making sure that after her first or second blink, she is not in range, and for that, we will try to either force her to tp blindly, or be visible, but in a very complicated environment for her tp.

Loop a nurse, it will be precisely to make her lose sight of you, because since she moves very slowly, she can't afford to waste time searching every bush in the area where she will have lost sight of you.

So obviously, if she charges her blink when you're in a deadzone, well... it's going to hurt, but you just have to be next to a structure that's a bit complex to be able to bait her.

There are also feints that can save you time : for example, run towards a window, to the point of convincing yourself that you are going to fast vault, and at the last frame, turn around or better, continue along the wall. If the nurse is at least a little bit skilled, she will try a preshot on the other side, and then get caught, get tired, lose time, and have to restart the hunt. 

"It seems to me that starstruck Nurse would require a very experienced team to beat and solos would have to get lucky and the Nurse to commit many mistakes to win against her. Just one survivor who does not know how to play against Nurse is already a big deal against average Nurse."

What you say is very true: indeed, against a good nurse, or a nurse who masters a minimum of her character, a disorganized team will have difficulty.

In fact, if we compare the nurse to other killers, she is able to amplify the difficulty triggered by the mistake the survivor will make.

Wasting time against a killer is dangerous.

Losing time against a nurse is even MORE dangerous.

Getting snowballed by a killer can hurt.

Getting snowballed by a nurse can hurt a lot.

So, as a corollary, we have to say that a team will have to be even more precise, even faster, even more efficient, and even more organized against a nurse.

That's why when I hear someone say, "The nurse is too good," I always ask to see videos of the survivor in question playing against the nurse.

Because of course, if the survivor doesn't know how to handle her, and on top of that he plays either solo with survivors of the same level as him, or in vocal, but his friends don't know how to handle the nurse either ... he will feel that she has completely outplayed him.

So yes, it will have been technically true, but it will NOT have been the killer's fault.

How else can you explain that organized, competent, and methodical teams manage to sweat out the very good nurses?

Not only is what you say true, but it takes into account a very important element.

DbD has 29 killers.

The nurse is the ONLY killer with this movement pattern.

Consequence? The progression of a survivor to be able to resist Nurse will therefore be proportional.

Out of 100 games for ex, he'll run into a few nurses, and dozens of killers who walk.

When he starts to know how to deal with the "walking" killers, he will barely start to know how to deal with the nurse.

This is neither a reproach nor a fault, it is just a purely mathematical observation.

That's why if a survivor really wants to know how to handle a nurse well, the best solution is to ask 2-3 people he/she knows and who have mastered the nurse to train him/her in a personalized part.

On the one hand, because he will be able to go much faster than if he has to wait to face 1 nurse every X public games.

Moreover, in the personal part, his friends will be able to explain to him in a complete way, and without tryhard, what he can / can't do, what he should / shouldn't do, how to avoid this or that thing, etc. Advise him, show him why / how this or that thing works or doesn't work.

And secondly, of course, the survivor in question must play himself as a nurse, to understand her mechanics, her strengths, and her weaknesses.

By the way, it would be really great if in the private games, you could activate or deactivate the invulnerability of the survivors, it would allow you to train without having to waste time getting up and healing yourself, which would be very nice.

Her addons are not broken.

In fact, his range addons have been adjusted, and no longer accelerate his blinks.

She is very good now.

By the way, when I come across a nurse playing Make your choice, my team and I are waiting in a bush for the malus to end 🤣

"Why modify a killer when all the survivors would have to do is learn to play against it."

How does not including games where people DC skew the results away from reality? I've had multiple games where somebody DCed early and the results ranged from 1 gen left to a 3E. In the games where people didn't get out but the gens were all done or only one was left that would have likely been an escape for at least someone without a DCer. If there is a DC, the data is tainted. The reality is what's represented in the games without DCs.

Besides, if anyone DCs on purpose for any reason other than a hacker/glitch or real life issue then they are the problem. DCers should either learn how to play Killer and stick to it or go to single player games where people don't have to rely on them. It could be not only their lack of willingness to learn how to play against Nurse but also their selfishness that causes a DCer to play poorly against Nurse.

BHVR shouldn't balance their game around players that DC. They're bad players in a team based role. That would be unfair to those that actually do play the game as intended.

"IF YOU DC AGAINST NURSE, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM"

Yes. It's all I can say.

Agreed. Nurse might not be fun to play against but she is part of the game. Rage quitting because of her means you don't want to play a public game. You want to play KYF where you can decide which killer it will be. It's not just Nurse though. You see people dcing no matter what. They always find a reason.