A potential healthy nerf to Nurse
- So I've seen in the newest developer update that you are planning on changing Nurse's power from basic attacks into special attacks, this is nice and all, really, but honestly it's lackluster. Good Nurses don't need NOED or Starstruck, I don't think I have seen anyone use Devour on Nurse, this will only bring an even more boring matchup since it narrows how many perks the killer can use and there will be less variety than there already is. The addon changes don't really matter either because she is just incredibly strong overall even without any addons. So I would like to recommend making the negative effect of the 3.3.0 version Torn Bookmark addon basekit as in "The Nurse is unable to Blink to a Target location she does not have direct line-of-sight to". This would make chases far less annoying, less unpredictable and a lot less unfair, this is the only killer in the game where your game sense and knowledge about mechanics doesn't matter at all, you literally just need to gamble mindgames because they can teleport through everything and just get lucky and end up in front of you even if they have zero clue what they are doing. I'd really like to see this put in the PTB to see how people would react to this and what they'd think, honestly I think it would be a great addition.
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"So I would like to recommend making the negative effect of the 3.3.0 version Torn Bookmark addon basekit(...)honestly I think it would be a great addition."
I suggest that you play as a nurse against strong survivor teams who are experts in their field before you propose this kind of thing, so that you can see that this proposal does not make sense.
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After the nurse nerf survivors are still going to complain about her, there's no way to get them to stop as long as nurse is viable.
Also the torn bookmark isn't that good of an addon anyway, especially for an iri one.
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You know that the huge part of the playerbase are just casual and mediocre players, right? Against them Nurse barely takes any effort to dominate, this addon downside isn't even that big of a deal, you just need to think more and stop spamming blinks constantly. If this doesn't make sense then tell me, does it make sense that doing a fast vault against a Nurse is literal suicide? dropping a pallet is worthless? that she can just blink through floors meanwhile you need to go around everything? Is this supposed to be fair or what? Even against a professional team with really great players mechanics don't matter at all, it's still all about zoning and mindgaming, how does THAT make sense?
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So, nurse wouldn't be able to blink through walls at all anymore? that seems a little too much. may as well just play wesker at that point.
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have you thought of all the indoor maps or maps with large structures? Now imagine a Nurse on Léry's (or RPD, The Game, Midwich, Springwood, Haddonfield, Coldwind Farm etc) with you proposed change. This Nurse moves at 96% with barely any option to use her power. Basically everywhere a Myers or GF can't stalk a Nurse could not blink.
No thank you.
And no, I am not a Nurse main.
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Yeah I hate nurse as much as the next person but this is just excessive. I think it's healthy to have a killer that can compete with the best survivors and blink special attacks might make her less overwhelming for everyone else.
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You can still blink through windows and pallets, if the fact that you can't blink through walls and floors would make her so incredibly weak then might aswell buff every single other killer who can't do the same at this point and is incredibly dependant on map RNG. It's really weird how you state that this would be bad meanwhile EVERY SINGLE KILLER suffers from this, no killer should be allowed to carelessly have 100% efficiency on every single map unless all the other killers do too.
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She is not the only killer that can compete with great players and the fact that she is capable of doing it is not because of good power design. By this change she would actually need forward thinking and skills, right now why do you think she is a viable pick against tournament players? Because she denies game mechanics, good players need to practice a lot to be able to loop efficiently, and it's hard to catch a good looping player, but with Nurse they can't loop, all their time invested into mechanics barely matter because it's all about holding W and mindgames, I don't think that's healthy at all. Nurse is not a good tournament pick because she is mechanically demanding, rather because you don't need as much effort because it ditches game basics.
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My shameful secret is that I am one of the people that instantly disconnects as soon as I hear that awful screech. I get it. I hate nurse as well.
However many people enjoy playing as nurse and they matter also. Their killer does not deserve to be gutted because you and I don't like her. This change is too much. She's getting problematic add-ons changed and special attacks. Let's see where that puts her before trying to tear out core components of her kit, eh?
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Old Torn Bookmark downside basekit, but nurse is a 4.0 that completely ignores pallets and vaults without blinking
Deal?
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I don't want her to be gutted, I want that it's a fair matchup to survivors and to other killers even. You don't need to be skillful to win against a Nurse, all you need is to win mindgames which doesn't take any knowledge about the game, it's incredibly unfair that let's say on one hand you have the Hillbilly who you literally have to sweat your balls off to get more than 1 or 2 kills with, you have to take the map into consideration, the loops, your mouse movement, your muscle memory, meanwhile Nurse can just easily get 2 kills basically anywhere even with mediocre gameplay. If players need to invest time and energy into learning weaker killers to perform well then I don't see why it would be a bad change for Nurse players to do the same.
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There's a reason no one ran that addon and it eventually got changed. Being slower than survivors and having no way to gain distance by going through walls is horrible.
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I only advise the not being able to blink through walls part, movement speed and recharge time obviously should be modified.
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If people want to play a nurse that can't blink through walls, they can play Wesker. There's no reason to change Nurse drastically.
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I'm not sure you understand what it means to walk with 96% speed, do you? If you want your suggestion to work, you'd need to buff Nurse's movement speed to something faster than survivors (who are at 100%). At least to 105% if not 110%.
But then again, I would rather play Wesker than Nurse at that point.
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True. And who knows how the devs changed her addons in about an hour. I noticed that all addons which were stated to get changed were all her purple and both pink addons as well as any addons wich affect blink distance, recharge or fatigue (exept for the brown addon).
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