Blight still needs nerfs

So many people on these forums have been consistently saying for a long time that Blight's best addons are troublesome.

In what way, shape, or form is this the start of 'Blight whining'?

I don't agree his basekit should be changed. But it is a pretty consensus opinion that his addons give the already second most powerful killer in the game a huge boost in power.

You know have said this a few times elsewhere. If nurse get's nerfed than Blight may not get touched even though he has a couple problematic add-ons. Maybe they want there to always be a killer of that power level to exist. Just a guess though. Not that I would complain if ring or c33 got nerfed hopefully they don't touch much else though especially base-kit. Actually had a guy who's been on these forums forever say to cap the maximum look-out angle and flick angle to 35 degrees 😂.

Maybe with more blights players will actually try and learn how to play vs him.

You know I actually think I saw you tell lilith about that guy when I was watching a vod a while back.

I didn't play blight until last December so I didn't get to see him in that state, but it's genuinely hard to play any other killer when his skill ceiling is nigh unreachable and the fact that I don't have to mindlessly hold W after survivors who are mindlessly holding W.

On a side note though, if they ever do an add-on pass do you think they should touch green speed? If there is one thing I run too much on blight it's green speed, and it's almost hard to count how many times I think "wow thanks green speed for that hit". I am really biased about it so I wanted to ask another blight main what they thought.

That's what I think about green speed as well.

As for c33 you could never go for rush hits and probably be better than nemesis.

Maybe his addons but his base kit is fine. I’m just worried they’re going to go way too hard and trash his addons. They only need very slight touches.

i agree but (and this isn't targeted because of your name) Hugtech exploit needs to be addressed already.

base blight when played without exploits is probably one of their best killers ever made.

I agree.

I do think Blight's addons should be nerfed.

C33 is just ######### dumb and WAY too strong for a Killer like Blight to have. I'm actually fairly okay with Iri Tag.

Double speed is less of an issue, but I don't think they should stack, it can make a lot of tiles unwinnable for Survivors because they legitimately cannot react.

I think the last thing that needs nerfed is Alchemist's Ring. It's dumb and rewards bad play.

In exchange, I'd like to see a lot of his Very Rare addons buffed.

There no downside to COH, COB, Windows, eruption, etc. Most of these perks are easy to apply or activate and they all give insane value the whole trail. Strong perks and add ons will always matter more than skill.

In your next post you said Windows of Opportunity is carrying people to wins they don’t deserve. Lol. Enough said.

Of course there are things on the survivor side carrying people to wins they don't deserve (WoO is absolutely not one, and I don't even use it before you say I do). The most serious of which is just playing in an SWF. That is beside the point right now. Just because one thing is broken doesn't mean another thing isn't.

SWF gives easy wins. So I don’t play SWF. There is almost no challenge if all 4 players are good.

SWF should be nerfed - no stacking perks, no stacking items, probably some other things too.

However, eruption also gives super easy wins in the vast majority of games played. It absolutely hard carries. You can deny it all you want, but it is true.

Take a step back and think about what is good for both sides, not just the one you play the most.

I'm glad the devs aren't swayed by how you think the game should be balanced.

Perks have always been adjusted when they greatly affect one of the 'three groups' of players.

Object of Obsession was a huge buff to SWF, and in many cases detrimental to solo. Ruin+Undying was almost as 'annoying to solo' - quite the under statement - as current Eruption is to solo, while just being okay against SWF (sound familiar?). And it was nerfed.

I'm not sure why you think players who choose the killer role should be spoon-fed free wins in the vast majority of their games against solos(which is what you are advocating for).

There are lots of balance issues in the game, but the fact is as a killer unless you are facing the absolute best tournament level survivors on comms then you have the potential to win every game. Facing those survivors, however, is a statistical rarity. I am a top player on my server and the number of times I have had to face those kinds of survivors (all in a group on comms, all tournament level) is vanishingly rare. It happens, of course, but very, very rarely.

It sucks that if four of the best survivors on comms face one of the best killer players, the survivors will have an advantage (unless the killer is full-loadout nurse/Blight). But it is much better than the alternative of what you are suggesting, that solo players just be lambs to the slaughter against equally skilled killer players.

Let's just leave it here. You won't change my mind and I won't change yours.

-"Hug tech is probably not going to be taken out considering it was added in an update for his collision"

Mandy already had a post last year about 3 months ago that said the devs are going to remove hug tech. It will be removed and it is only a matter of time as to when that happens.

-"The only reason you think blight needs to be gutted is because you do not know how to counter him"

Actually most people consider me a killer main (I am a centrist). I know how to play blight so I know how to counter him when he bounces. There is a severe lack of counterplay with hug tech in that you cannot do anything unless you have dead hard ready.

-"blight has the highest skill ceiling of any killer"

Once upon a time people said the same thing about Billy in an era where the Trapper was a monster when you tapped under the hook . Traps completely blocked a lane and they had "suck in power" that would pull you in from about 1m away. Old traps on windows got you regardless of fast/slow vault and the changes to that are nothing but a nerf.

Billy used to have a directional flick at the end of his sprint and it got removed because it allowed for too skilled play. Blight's hug tech and moon tech allow the same level of advanced play that the devs did not intend.

-"Blight is at the power level killers should be close to if you are experienced with their power. All other killers should be brought up in"

This is the only statement I agree with. Blight moves fast, has fast pallet breaks and has strong antiloop. Honestly it's too much and he needs to get nerfed or else we would need to give all killers some kind of dash movement power.

I'm actually kind of thinking that all non "movement" based killers should just be 120% speed (the term movement including all teleporters). You don't need to rework any of the maps and all the loops just got a lot more unsafe. Pig/Doctor/ Bad_Generic_Killer with 120% movement speed base would be so much closer to blight with the least amount of effort.

-"hug tech is less effective than bump logic."

Then you won't mind when it goes away. Remember it was confirmed by a mod that it WILL go away eventually™. Hug tech makes certain tiles like the shack far too simple. You will not be getting a hit with just bump logic vs the best players. Likewise as I said before when there are interlinked tiles then bump logic becomes far less valuable. In that scenario if you play with bump logic against a killer main who understand how blight plays then you will be in for some serious trouble. You can see perfect examples of this in Otz, Hens and Truetalent videos when they play survivor and killer.

"it's quite likely you don't know how to counter him very well if you are complaining about the hug tech."

Most people consider me a killer main. I know how to counter the powers of all the killers I have spent time learning to play. I watch streamers play the killers I don't like so I know their limitations. Bounce play is easier to counter around strong tiles. Hug tech is harder to counter at very close distances on an unconnected loop. Have you watched the video Hens put out recently on Blight?

Hens plays blight because hug tech cheese exists. It 100% reminds me of the old billy nonsense that most people don't even know was a thing. People say flick and Billy in the same sentence in 2022-23 and don't realize that had a completely different meaning in 2016. What you're talking about is a curve from chainsaw initiation. Billy used to have a flick where you could charge someone with a saw attack at a 90° angle and then you could flick to make the saw attack at a 180° angle at the end of the sprint. It was 100% a "tech" just like hug tech. It got removed.

Hug tech on Blight is just dirty because you can force hits you don't deserve without bouncing. It allows you to threaten spaces you should not be able to attack without bouncing 2-3 times first and that is a huge problem. Having the option to do hug tech pressures a survivor in the same way that Nemesis can threaten a survivor on a vault. The difference is with hug tech you get movement speed and you will get a full injury.

-"It quite likely won't happen tbh"

I think you dont realize just how slow the devs are at making changes. These status icon changes are a 3-4 year in the works idea rework to address the idea : how do we make solo players more efficient. Nurse and Blight are way stronger than every other killer in the game. Nurse is being put in the spotlight again because the top players that use her crush everything. The same thing happens with the top Blight players.

The same thing does not happen with : PH, Artist, Plague, Huntress,etc. There are two killers that have a complete kit : fast movement around the map, very strong anti loop and the ability to end chases quickly. These two killers end up even having 4v1 ability because they can down and injure players so quickly.

Most killers have 0-2 of these attributes. I've been playing since the beginning and I can tell you with certainty that Blight is going to get nerfed. I feel certain you probably don't like that - probably because you play Blight often. For years people said Nurse would never get nerfed. She got nerfed for the first time last year and is on the chopping block again this year. Blight is going to go up in power relative to Nurse when she gets nerfed so he will almost certainly be next.

But I will stop to address a key issue. Blight and Nurse need to get nerfed but so does SWF. The nerf to SWF is simple : add the rule so that there can be no repeated characters, perks, items or offerings in a SWF. This affects a two man squad to a minimal degree but limits a swf so they can't bully (but there are plenty of healing/exhaustion perks to go around). Nurse needs to lose the ability to shorten a blink by looking at the ground (the pentablink on test is insane but most of the rest is fine). Blight needs to have a rework to every addon that addresses when he gets charges back. There are about 6 addons at a glance that just aren't fair compared to what you see on most killers.

Plant 43 Vines/Licker Tongue

Compound Twenty-One/Adrenaline Vial

You'll notice one of these sets is not like the other.

NE-a Parasite/Depleted Ink Ribbon

Alchemist's Ring/Summoning Stone

It's very easy to see that the second best killer in the game has that status in part because his addons are completely insane by comparison. Nemesis -having an incomplete kit should be the one with strong addons. Blight addons should be near meme category because the killer's power is so damn strong.

Licker tongue should be : if you are infected then you have a 2% movement speed penalty.

Plant 43 vines should be : -1 vaccine (meaning the purple addon would be -2 vaccines). Or it could be something like opening a chest makes a plant come out that hurts the survivor (or puts them in a deep wound if injured).

The parasite addon should read: if you are infected then you are oblivious.

Zombies need to just never suck but that requires a ton of effort to even start addressing.

Alchemist ring and Adrenaline vial should be -2 bounces.

Compound 21 should be -1 bounce.

"Yes it does mitigate the need for multiple rushes in some places but if you watch top tier blights who are try harding, you will rarely see it used in place of raw bump logic. Examples being lilith when he has to try in his streak games and even that video otz posted of the 600+ win streak blight vs top tier survivors."

As I am reading the forums today the only streamer I see on is : LilithOmen. The first chase was bump hug bump hit. The second chase around shack was : bump bump bump hug bump hit.

Again the issue is that having the option to hug gives you a huge increased ability to combat good looping. Without the hug tech at the shack he would have needed to completely wit for his power to reset in order to get a hit. That is the perfect example of what Blight needs to lose. The first chase could have been solved with pure bumping but the hug just made it a faster down. The second chase would have been very long with 0 tokens at shack vs a survivor with DH and the pallet still intact.

At least half the shacks in the game require no hug to slide, the there are other you can't hug in the first place. And I specified when lilith needs to try hard on a win streak because generally he is just chilling trying to do cool things for chat. You can't just turn on his stream and go look he hugged.